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When and from where did you join the Royals Blogosphere?

For me, the day was July 25, 2001, a day that will live in infamy.  A friend, with a voice half sympathetic and half sarcastic said to me:  "Neifi Perez?  Nice."  I had no idea what he was talking about.  I was in law school in San Diego, following the Royals but not yet obsessing.  I was on my way to class and didn't ask my friend for details.

Later that night, I hit ESPN.com, as I did about 3,000 times every day back then.  There I saw the news that we traded Jermaine Dye for Neifi Perez, a trade Retro ranks as the #1 worst trade in Royals history:

The....absolute.....worst. It wasn't even a salary dump because the Royals didn't save that much money in the deal. Nor did they get any high upside players. For an All-Star Gold Glove slugger they got....a light hitting shortstop. Except they already had a slick fielding, light-hitting shortstop named Rey Sanchez. And another one in the minors named Angel Berroa. And Neifi's defense wasn't even that good.

Absolute worst.

I was unhappy about the trade, but not outraged.  Then I went to Yahoo! to do an internet search on the trade.  I came across RoyalBoard.com, a pretty good Royals message board.  As I read various posts with titles like "Allard Baird is a moron!" and "Glass is running the Royals like Wal-Mart!!", and the dozens of responses to each post, all cascading down and to the right across my computer screen, I discovered a bunch of other nuts willing to spend hours venting their frustrations to random strangers on the internet.  I was hooked.  Learning all the posters' personalities and baseball philosophies was great.  Go Internet!

My favorite RoyalBoard "discussion" was when a theological debate broke out regarding whether or not Jesus really served alcoholic wine at the Wedding of Canaan.  One poster (RoyalinLenexa, I think), was a holy roller and argued that Jesus, as a Christian, just couldn't have served alcohol to anyone.  I reponded that as a Catholic, I'm pretty sure Jesus thinks acohol is great.  Then someone accused me of supporting pedophiles.  And so on.  Those were great times.

My screenname was PowderBlue.  I remember that I almost always agreed with a guy named PatTabler.  Are any of you guys RoyalBoard alumns?  Surely.

RoyalBoard changed its format to its current one some time in 2004 (maybe?), which was actually a good thing, since the message board format suffers from irreparable flaws, namely the most recent post and its comments pushes previous posts down and, eventually, off the page.  An example of what I'm talking about:

Glass thinks the Royals are WalMart!-posted at 03:24:15 on 7/25/09 by BaboniRulz

God Baird is a jackass!-posted at 03:24:49 on 7/25/09 by Denkingerwasright

You are so right my friend.-posted at 03:25:31 on 7/25/09 by Neyerstoocynical

This is worse than the Damon Trade.-posted at 03:26:29 on 7/25/09 by FoffStLouis

Always low prices at The Royals, but beer still costs $8!-posted at 03:25:09 on 7/25/09 by Glassmakesmepuke

Wait a minute, what is OBP? - posted by PowderBlue at 03:21:43 on 7/25/09

 

I think you get the point.

I think I discovered Royals Review some time in 2006.  Needless to say, I'm a big fan.  The format allows for excellent discussions, and I've learned a ton about baseball and the Royals from the people on here.  Lots of nuts on the internets. 

So, any RoyalBoard veterans on here?  Other sites you came from?

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The Pine Tar Rag

I don’t remember who ran it or how I got to it, but that’s the first Royals blog I followed. RR was one of the links from it, and I remember thinking the guys here were a little more snarky and cynical (I also learned that grudz69 really enjoyed his victory scotch). I quickly came to lear that RR was almost always more correct with its analysis. Example: the Pine Tar Rag thought the Gathright trade was awesome, folks here were less enthusiastic. I’ve since learned 1) the now-defunct Pine Tar Rag guys were way too optimistic, and 2) snark and cynicism is a good way to keep being a Royals’ fan in proper perspective.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 11, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

New to blogs in general

Just found this one day upon my recently ended unemployment. Was bored with cleaning the apt. when the wife was gone, had just gotten back from an interview, had just moved away from Missouri and needed to find an inter-webs “home away from home, for the royals info”

Started reading RR and finally joined just a little bit ago after deciding that even if I post something retarded because I don’t know enough about baseball……hey it’s over the internet, I sound like a retard anyway.

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 11, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

RoyalBoard whoo

it’s kind of still around, only more professional looking

by BHWick on Jun 11, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

the old rob & rany blog roped me in

what rob & rany were doing back in the early 2000s was pretty groundbreaking… it was basically a blog before blogs had really been invented, though it was also incredibly primitive, as they were just posting material onto rob’s robneyer.com page

i don’t think there was even a comments function, or, in fact, any way to see old posts

the first thing I did other than reading was join the royals fans group on yahoo, this was probably around 2001-2

then in 2004 I started a royals blog on blogger, and also started posting on royal board

by Freneau on Jun 11, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Rob & Rany got me started too

But it was right before Rob quit, as I am very new to this Royals on the internets thing. Then I commented on Mellinger’s blog about stats soon after he started up, and somebody suggested I should come and check this place out. Unfortunately for everybody here, I took that advice.

by AxDxMx on Jun 11, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Started on tigerboard ...

… transitioned to royalboard.

Found SBN when powermizzou and tigerboard were blocked at my work (but somehow RockMNation wasn’t). And that’s how I found royalsreview. I’m just a lurker. Don’t post because I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about when it comes to sabremetrics.

Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean

by mitch cumstein on Jun 11, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

I remember that because occaisionally KU-MU wars would break out (usually involving PittsburghPARoyal), and “Nick” would tell them to take it to TigerBoard.

by hippdoghipp on Jun 11, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice!

I had forgotten al about Mike Stinkey!

I remember the epic debates over whether to build a downtown stadium as well. Good times.

by hippdoghipp on Jun 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Used to be, I believe

Royalboard and Tigerboard used to be in the same format. But I haven’t been to tigerboard in a long time, so I don’t know what it looks like anymore.

Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean

by mitch cumstein on Jun 11, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Tigerboard.

The worst place on the internet, by far.

I know a lot of Missouri fans, and nearly all of them are good people. But if I didn’t know any of them, and just perused Tigerboard, I’d be convinced that all Tigers fans are absolutely terrible people who have absolutely zero capability of dealing with anything rationally. And I’m not even hyperbolizing here; any of you who have spent time over there would probably agree.

And yes, all of my Missouri friends agree.

by rockchalk on Jun 11, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigerboard was fine ...

… until border ruffians started to overtake the place.

I’m only half joking. Tigerboard, like any Internet site, had its share of good information/opinions and complete jackasses. When other schools’ fans started showing up, somehow most of the people with good information/opinions went elsewhere and mostly only the idiot Mizzou fans stayed on for the flame wars. But let’s not place the blame only on Mizzou fans. Most of the kU, K-State and Nebraska fans that visit Tigerboard aren’t exactly there for information sharing.

But I agree with your basic assessment that Tigerboard is somewhat of a waste of bandwidth.

Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean

by mitch cumstein on Jun 11, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for not blowing up.

I just really can’t stand the place.

And like you say, it as just as much because of the ridiculous KU/K-State/Nebraska fans that go over there just to stir up trouble. The whole place is just a bunch of people baiting others into saying ridiculous things. Usually, this is done by saying ludicrous things yourself. So, the whole place is a joke.

And I’m sure that there were a lot of intelligent people there. I don’t doubt it for a second. Once the place went crazy, though, most got out (as you said), and now they are few-and-far-between.

by rockchalk on Jun 11, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got hooked on message boards with about 4 other USC fans when Larry Smith

was busy having USC lose to Fresno State back in 1992. Since then I’ve followed my two (and only really) favorite teams the Royals and Trojans and ranted, raved, and enjoyed/hated posting on a couple boards since about then.

by Uscbalto on Jun 11, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I started commenting

on the Royals MLB.com message board quite long ago…couldn’t say for sure just when.

I occasionally corresponded with Rob Neyer by e-mail when he and Rany did their Rob ‘n’ Rany bit – it is a real shame they never (to my knowledge) archived their old columns. But I remember that when the Royals swept the Yankees to begin Buddy Bell’s tenure as manager, and at around the same time drafted Alex Gordon, I wrote him an e-mail which became the leadoff point of the next column.

I discovered RoyalsReview thanks to Sports Illustrated’s attempt, in early 2007, to become “hip” by linking to blogs. Been here ever since.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jun 11, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Royals Review is the best run blog I've ever been on, IMO.

Most intellectual, best written, etc. It’s gold, Jerry, gold.

by Uscbalto on Jun 11, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It started with a meek google search for Mizzou sports

And up came Rock M Nation. That led to me joining all the other blogs for my teams of choice. Best meek google search to kill time ever. Makes work less boring. While Arrowhead Pride is just way to big to really keep up with, and I just lurk there, RR, Rock M Nation, and Third Quater Collapse are all great blogs that I can (somewhat) participate in.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 11, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, AP is so gargantuan now

(and infested with a couple too many crazies) to really follow everything.

Still, I lurk there, and used to be a BIG time contributor during 2007 (I was listed as TWSS way-back-when).

Rock M Nation is just pure awesomeness, though. Definitely one of (if not THE) best blogs around, anywhere.

by rockchalk on Jun 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah chalk I was on other Mizzou news paper boards (not blogs) and it just got so tiresome

From all fans of different colleges it just got so crazy. RMN is for Mizzou fans what RR is for Royals fans. Totally tits.

I also think people that post on SBN blogs seem to be a) more informed b) want to actually discuss stuff c) not retarded

ps enjoyed your comments over at RMN

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 11, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't actually joined Rock Chalk Talk, but I've read some stuff there

Pretty much a Jayhawk fan’s Rock M Nation :) Maybe I’ll join and post a few thoughts when the 2 “importanat” college sports get under way.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 11, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royals Review

is the only blog I really followed and only for anaysis on Royals players… wow, I didn’t really look around too much, but this seemed more informed (and it was). That and Rob and Rany. I posted a bit before last season (in 2007 I was pretty active as a commenter), but only really got going last season with regular FanPosting… somehow, Kyle Boddy thought I knew what I was talking about, and the rest is (incredibly trivial) history.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on Jun 11, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I really can't remember how I found this site

I think maybe some guys at Royals Corner (Scout) started linking to stuff here? I don’t even remember when I started posting here. My memory is getting foggy.

Royalboard – that brings me back.

I remember that I almost always agreed with a guy named PatTabler.

Ha! That was me ;) I was a young, stupid kid back then, spouting off a lot. I’m sure I posted a lot of dumb stuff back in the day. I used to post there pretty regularly until they changed formats. I remember PittsburghPARoyal always stirring stuff up (I’ve seen him pop up in a lot of forums) and RoyalinLenexa loving every move the Royals ever made. Good times.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Were you part of the baseballbords.com

I followed them to RoyalsCorner and then Scout got them.

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 11, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Started out on the Royals MLB.com board

back in college, and gradually moved to royalboard.com. I enjoyed royalboard.com despite bopper/Big Bopper and the flame wars between RoyalInLenexa and PittsburghPARoyal, but strayed away after their transition period and went to the new scout board. I went back for a while early last year, but there just weren’t enough regular posters over there.

by Top Ramen on Jun 11, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I started on the MLB.com board, too...

….and still post there regularly (under the same username). But I’ve been reading Royals Authority and Royals Review for years, as well. I just created this account today, so this is, like, my third or forth comment on Royals Review…

by kcemigre on Jun 11, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohh...the mlb.com board.......

I feel sorry for you, man. Having to put up with those nitwits over there is mind-blowing.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 11, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I started reading Royals Authority during 2006 (June, I think).

Can’t really remember how I found it, but it was my introduction into the entire blogosphere as a whole.

They had that old link box on the right, which is how I found Royals Review, among other Royals blogs.

RA was my primary read for awhile, until the offseason of that year and the Meche signing. Then, RR became my primarily RR read.

by rockchalk on Jun 11, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

very similar story for me

Though I began more with KU football sites (sadly, KUsports.com was my main one—though now i check oreadboomkings religiously), i started with RA, and incorporated RR in, but also checked whatever other R’s blogs i could find, even if they only updated once or twice a month (e.g., Royal Tower, Royales With Cheese, Royally Speaking) and still do.

by benfunke on Jun 11, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last Summer I did a study abroad in Germany...

and leading up to the baseball season i realized that I was going to miss the entire season, I literally watched opening day in a “bar” in the Wichita airport. I dont remember how I came across the last post or 2 of Rany and Rob, from there I pretty much have been following RanyontheRoyals from its inception, from there I found this place. I pretty much read everything I could get my hands on last summer since I couldn’t actually watch baseball, turns out baseball isn’t popular in Germany, and especially not the Royals… I know feel bad for forcing my German friends to adopt the Royals as their baseball team.

So anyway in the last year I have made strides in the Sabermetric world, and I just ordered the Jonah Keri/Baseball Prospectus book on not actually knowing anything about baseball, probably should have bought that before frequenting this place.

Anywho, this place now consumes way too much of my time.

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 11, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Royals Nightly

Some guy I knew started some fly-by-night blog named Royals Nightly, and I wound up following it in passing a little bit.

I will say that RSS feeds revolutionized my blog-frequenting lifestyle.

by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on Jun 11, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I just read for a long time

Rob ‘n Rany being the first, and all the messageboards/forums. First posted on Royals Corner last year, but don’t very much at all. Someone (Retro I think it was) linked to something here before Christmas, and I have been posting ever since.

I like the quality of discussion here far more than anywhere else. Not to criticize others, but Royal’s corners has way too many a-holes for my liking. Which is a shame, because their are good posters too. Here, i think pretty much everyone contributes, at least in a small way (like me).

by kcbottom9th on Jun 11, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

It Had Something

To do with the Royals playing Boston on national TV on opening day 2007. When I heard this was going to happen, I started researching the team on the net and liked what I found. I still followed the team casually before this, but my enthusiasm hadn’t recovered from the ’94 strike season.

Of course, I go all the way back to the beginning and the glory days of the ’70’s and ’80’s when we were among the elite in all of MLB, but I moved to Alaska in ‘78, making it difficult to follow them as closely as I had. The ’80 Series was a big highlight and disappointment at the same time. I watched most of the ’85 Series with people who couldn’t have cared less who won, but I was going nuts.

I got married in ‘89 and still kept up via box scores and the like, but after the ’94 season I fell out of touch. The worse the team got, the less I followed them. I’d look at the standings and the occasional box score, but I didn’t know the roster or who was managing, etc..

It was satellite TV that gave me hope of following the team more closely. I found out I couldn’t get the MLB package on Dish Network, but that led me to mlb.tv. I bought the radio feed first. That was when I started searching the net for Royals information and I think that’s how I found RR.

I can’t remember how long I lurked, but it didn’t take long for me to register and start spewing idiocy onto this well written, very courteous (by internet standards) board. That was early in the ‘07 season. I now follow the Royals more closely than I ever dreamed I would. I was somewhat aware of sabremetrics, but I was still a BA/HR/RBI and WL/ERA guy when I looked at stats. I really appreciate the work you guys do on the stats here on this board. I don’t claim to fully understand everything, but I do have a much better appreciation of sabremetrics than I ever thought I would.

There is one other board I post on regularly (not even sports related) and they keep track of first posts. Is there any way to dredge up my first post here? I’d be curious to see what inspired me to join the fray.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 11, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

phil you have one of the best sigs on here

My wife grew up in KC, and when I told her this she about died laughing I did not have to add anymore info, she is well informed of KC sports history. (a little insight, she likes sports enough that we watch NFL football draft to see where her favorite players go)

 She still absolutely hates the As.

Keep warm up there in AK, keep the blinds dark, and pulled for the summer!!!

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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