Scary Goldstein Quote on Braves Choice of Mike Minor

by Freneau on Jun 11, 2009 1:58 PM EDT

Kevin Goldstein (3:48:21 PM PT): The Braves take Minor. It's indefensible. You don't want to take a high school kid, that's cool. You think he's better than Alex White, who I'm not even that high on, and you're nuts.

Number 7 picks who profile as No. 4 starters make no sense.

So how do #1 overall picks who profile as a number 4 work?

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DM had nothing to do with the Hovhevar pick.

Any suggestions that he did are lies.

by hippdoghipp on Jun 11, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions

I think Hochevar profiled as something more though

And he may still be.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 11, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions

yeah, if he ends up as a #4, it's too bad, but

it’s the “profile” that’s important, right? It’s one thing for a top draft pick to “bust” or to only achieve #4-dom, but if he “profiles” as a #4 to begin with…

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on Jun 11, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

Truth be told, I’m happy with Hooch as he is now. A solid major-league starter. And he was one very quickly.

If he gets any better, that’s a bonus. And I think he will.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 11, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

And i still he think he was the better pick than Lincecum

At the time.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 11, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah...i didnt mind the Hoch pick at the time....

I might have gone Andrew Miller instead, but he hasnt been much better. However, calling for Lincecum is simply second guessing unnecessarily. 9 teams passed on him for a reason. He had some serious red flags….size and workload at UW being the significant ones.

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Jun 11, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

I liked Lincecum but I liked Hochevar and Brad Lincoln better. It wasn’t clear cut which was better.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 12, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

one thing he'll need is a decent infield defense behind him

by benfunke on Jun 11, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Fasho

by kcbottom9th on Jun 11, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I read the Indians were going to make Alex White a reliever

That strikes me as pretty stupid too

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions

I may be wrong.

But isn’t Hochevar pretty much a #4 right now?

And I understand he is getting up there in age, prospect-status-wise at least, but he could still improve, I’m sure. So, yeah, I think a #3/#4 starter isn’t TERRIBLE for a first rounder, even first overall. It was a year without a clear-cut number 1, and as long as he doesn’t completely bust out, then you can’t be too mad.

by rockchalk on Jun 11, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions

I swear I don't intend for this to come across as negative

But I can’t really see him developing into anything much better than a #4, for one very important reason – he simply will not strike out enough guys to be much better than that.

I suppose he could prove us all wrong by adding a killer changeup to combat lefties – but so far, I see zero indication of that happening. He is what he is.

By the way, that doesn’t make him a bust, even as #1 overall.

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Jun 11, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

Isn't Hochevar our #3 for the rest of the year

He gave up 6 runs in his last two starts….Davies and Bannister have given more over their last two….and the guy will get better. Davies could get better as well. Bannister, not so much

Next year we will have the same exact rotation. If Crow pitches well and be in the Majors in about a year, Davies/Bannister will square off for the last rotation spot with the loser relegated to the bullpen

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 11, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions