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Game 61 Open Thread - Reds at Royals

Cincinnati Reds at Kansas City Royals, Jun 13, 2009 7:10 PM EDT





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Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Jun 13, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Even with his hot start

Bloomquist is now down to .340/.398. Damn you, Captain Regression.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

MiLB starters of note for us tonight

Montgomery vs. Beloit
Caldera vs. Winston-Salem
Blake Johnson vs. Arkansas

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Jun 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

The Reds lineup looks every bit as bad as ours. Worse, maybe. Willy Taveras? Ramon Hernandez at first? Laynce Freakin’ Nix at cleanup???

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

They just finished a series in Washington in which they hit like .199 (and somehow won 2 of 3)

Taveras is 0 for his last 29

Hernandez is at first because Votto’s still on the DL with mystery stress/anxiety/issues.

Nix has actually be somewhat good for them the last week or so. He killed STL when they played them.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 13, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Davies is going to get turned around

this would be the time to do it. I’m having a hard time getting over how bad that Reds lineup is. Remember when they had Griffey, Kearns, Dunn, Encarnacion (is he hurt?), AND Phillips? And now….this. As you posted above, Votto being out makes it look worse, and he’s pretty good. But still….

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Encarnacion was with STL....

then he got hit in the face by a foul ball when he was in the on-deck circle. It jacked up his face/vision pretty good. I don’t think he’s been back since, but I’m not sure.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 13, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could Hiram please bounce back?

I’d really like that. GO ROYALS

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm really glad we have Billy

I love that guy

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

aw

Bronson doesn’t do the rockette kick with a runner on first

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hoagy Bomb Coming

Soon.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Solid base hit

I just don’t get why Jacobs can’t go with a pitch every now and then. He pulls EVERYTHING. Miggy Jr. out there

by clintox100 on Jun 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

3-0 Hoagy Bomb?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

recipe for jump starting this offense....

could be Guillen and Jacobs getting on one of their hot streaks at the same time..

by Quagmire Giggity on Jun 13, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing Fancy, Just

Send it back where it came from.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

good thing we had

Bloomquist batting 2nd to help out there

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Saw that coming

Climbed the ladder. Teahen hasn’t shown he can hit that pitch

by clintox100 on Jun 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

absolutely laughable AB from teahen

gordon can’t get back fast enough

3 baserunners and he only throws 21 pitches….

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a bad at-bat

But Teahen generally does a decent job working the count, at least.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Where's His Guitar?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's asking too much

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Laynce Nix strikes out.

Clean up hitter. Oh my gawd. Please someone give me the Reds’ GM job.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to destroy crap Hiram

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

puzzling pitch selection to gomes

that sequence didnt make any sense

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

FINISH HIM

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Jay Bruce only did that to

stay in Dusty’s favor. Dusty is mad since Jay was lazy and saw too many pitches last night

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Weeeeee!

boy howdy that was fun.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay.....we executed a run-down!

thx for stopping in the middle of that steal attempt, Bruce.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 13, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Deer in the headlights

Wut???

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

single, HBP?

they really are the royals

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

"Olivo's having a tough time avoiding the baseball"

never thought I’d ever here that in my lifetime

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitch WILL bunt

never mind that Arroyo hasn’t shown an ability to get people out consistently

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Crimony. let him swing

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

what?

are you a commie or something?

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

arroyo is such a bizarre pitcher

pretty sure he never throws 2 pitches from the same arm slot

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

really got screwed by boston..

signed a reasonable deal there b/c he loved being on that team, jamming with gammons, etc. then was traded like a month later

by Freneau on Jun 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maier was just putting them into a false sense of security

right before he blasted that triple single

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

6 baserunners in 1+ inning...

and no runs yet…

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

best thing to do would be to just keep trying to give arroyo outs

maybe eek out a run, and by the time we’re finished he’ll be settled down and we can lose 3-2

by Freneau on Jun 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take a sac fly Jesus

you look like you’re going to GIDP right now

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

silly Reds

you think you can stop Willie Bloomquist?

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Correction

Put “Fucking” between that

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right to the 3rd Bman

Way to go DDJ

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Runs expected with bases loaded none out...

2.54.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

SAC.... FLY.....

surely you can do it Willie

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

HIT

thank you GRITMONSTER

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

at this rate

Aviles is going to be riding the bench for weeks at a time while Willie hits .200

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He singled!

PARTAY

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Wins are wins RR

We take whatever we can ’round here!

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 7 game win streak...

and we’re back in this thing

lets do it

by Freneau on Jun 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billy

I LOVE that guy

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

COME ON NANCY....PUT IT RIGHT DOWN THE ALLEY!

congrats to whoever had Keystone Light in the “first repeated Royals commercial” pool.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Who thinks Ryan won't?

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah this is the dude's premise

Both qbs are similar……u pointed that out 4 me. Dont know why im wasting my time w/ u………………. ……………lol qb rating…….really? ?? Thats ure great equalizer stat…lol………. …..I dont like thigpen but to not even put him on the same level w/ ryan w/ clearly similar stats is laughable……….R yan isnt GOD or the next Favre.hes good but not great, stop trying to force him on all of us.

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

“Easy

thigpen 18tds 12int

Ryan 16 tds 11 int

Thats how………..ure stats are cute but int. to td is really what matters in the NFL"

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by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You ever read Football Outsiders?

Thigpen wasn’t anywher near as good at moving the chains. Ryan came out very high according to their rankings.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I agree

I’m a Falcon fan, so im all about it

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree but now the league has their tape on him

and this yr they wont be able to run as much imo. teams will make him sling it around a bit more.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah people say that

but he also has a year of experience to. I can’t find one QB who was worse his 2nd year (except Favre surprisingly) so have to conclude that the QB improves more than Coaches adjusting to him

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will see. Plus his value.....

IMO was inflated a bit due to the falcons prior situation and qb. He was extremely impressive though dont get me wrong.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but from several analysts thinking he wasn't all that

and would bust, and for that 72 million contract he got..im glad he was really productive his rookie year. Those contracts are crazy for top rookie QB’s and it just makes the investment even worse if they sit for a year

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-2 to 3-2

way to go Hiram

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

walk

weee

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell

Cincy looked at over 4 pitches in this PA?

by BHWick on Jun 13, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Hiram

We can’t get them out if you don’t put the ball in play!

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate you Davies

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Davies after 0-2

.241/.263/.351. Funny how Meche seems to get more trouble from the commenters here about not being able to finish 0-2 batters.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh, we're stubborn

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt

those numbers suggest Davies should be the one getting more crap for it, is all I’m saying.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Except his 0-2 pitching isn’t a hole.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I never said he didn’t pitch slow. But some pretty bad misconceptions happen about Meche. Mostly the 0-2 count thing.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

davies sucks ass

this guy cannot pitch with a lead

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

that should read

“cannot pitch very well,” shouldn’t it?

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man i think Davies has better stuff than Bannister

but Bannister has more control…I think the battle for 5th starter will be interesting if Crow can make it to the big leagues next year

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a heck of a timetable

Crow might be very good, but I think 2011 is more realistic.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well he's on the same path as hocevar and he got called up in 07 after being drafted in 06

i think Crow probably has better stuff/composure

but after last night I can’t even read Hochevar…imagine if he breaks out into a good starter in the big leagues?

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still see Hochevar as a middle of the rotation guy

but rumors of his demise were always exaggerated. He’d’ve looked much better last year with a credible defense.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy doesnt throw enough strikes....... Period

I really hope that the org. realizes that he is never gonna be the guy they wanted him to be. Borderline 5th starter/bullpen guy

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

That lead was fun while it lasted

Hiram rocks

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

how fucking horrible

get a three run lead and immediately GIVE IT all back on a walk and HBP

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

that is why i can't stand watching this guy pitch..

his typical story is burying us early and then pitching well afterwards. Then we all say…it wasnt really that bad of an outing. Now…we give him runs and walks, HBP and gives it all back. Frustrating.

by Quagmire Giggity on Jun 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

TEABAG!!!

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Jose would never hit a HR for charity

that’s what Teabag does

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

So yeah...

Bert has been fucking amazing lately.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully

Just like DDJ has been better leading off. Leave them where they’re good!

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF Jesus?

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Bwahahahaha

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaelic?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

man what the hell was that

12 baserunners in 3 innings, only 5 runs

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

*13

realistically speaking

by slayor on Jun 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maier would have scored...

Dave Owen is awesome

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not against the rules to have coaches that suck ass

so I don’t see why that is

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

there is a limit on how much facial hair your coaching staff is allowed…..and Trey uses up all of that allotment.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

God dammit Kyle!!!!

IT TAKES JUST ONE MORE STRIKE

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 13, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do car dealership commercials still exist

and, what should I have for supper?

Grandpa’s (a store down the street) has t-bone for $4.99/lb…

by Porcus on Jun 13, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions