Gil Meche Reasserts His Alpha-Dog Status
Gil Meche continues to surprise me. Tonight, he followed up one of his best starts of the season with a complete game shutout, allowing just four hits and a walk, along with six strikeouts.
Even during his minor struggles earlier, the advanced data kept showing that he was actually pitching better than he had the last two seasons. We're starting to see some of those fruits reflected in the more traditional stats now as well, as his ERA has slid down to 3.41.
Of course, the lion's share of the credit must go to Olivo. He just calls a great game.
Thanks to some home cookin', that sweet sweet National League flava, and a fair dose of some better play, the Royals are now back to 29-34, and are borderline contenders again in the division that quality left behind. Unstoppable baby!
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You mah boy, Gil
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 16, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some minor Gil pitch count research
Stats for Gil’s games after he throws 115 pitches
(pitch count → date of next start → stats from next start)
115 → 6.16.09 → 9.0IP 0ER 6K:1BB
120 → 5.14.09 → 4.1IP 5ER 1K:2BB
116 → 5.08.09 → 5.2IP 2ER 7K:3BB
129 → 5.04.08 → 7.0IP 0ER 4K:0BB
119 → 5.25.08 → 6.0IP 2ER 5K:2BB
115 → 5.30.08 → 5.0IP 3ER 6K:2BB
115 → 6.10.08 → 6.0IP 1ER 4K:2BB
115 → 6.21.08 → 5.2IP 1ER 7K:2BB
115 → 7.12.08 → 6.2IP 4ER 1K:1BB
117 → 8.15.08 → 6.0IP 1ER 8K:2BB
118 → 5.09.07 → 6.0IP 1ER 7K:1BB
118 → 7.25.07 → 7.1IP 5ER 1K:1BB
120 → 7.30.07 → 7.0IP 2ER 6K:1BB
115 → 9.07.07 → 6.0IP 2ER 3K:2BB
124 → 9.29.07 → 6.0IP 2ER 7K:2BB
Gil with 115+
93.2IP 31ER (2.98 ERA) 73K:24BB (3.04K:BB)
Gil with KCR
501.2IP 212ER (3.82 ERA) 400K:165BB (2.42K:BB)
So, I guess I was overreacting a bit. Gil can handle 115+. Still doesn’t mean I’m not a little bit worried about a career high 132, even if they were relatively stress-free ones.
by sterlingice on Jun 16, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think as long as he doesn't throw 115+ next start
it shouldn’t be a big deal
by Will McDonald on Jun 16, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...i think the problems arise....
when pitch counts like this are a consistent thing…and when these high pitch counts are coupled with high stress innings….and gil had none of those tonite
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 16, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milwaukee and C.C. Sabathia disagree
Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals
by averagegatsby on Jun 17, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also noted that 132 over 9 slow innings is much different
than 132 over 6 or 7 quick ones
by benfunke on Jun 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still pointless to throw 132 pitches
fire hillman
by marbotty on Jun 17, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on man
it’s not going to affect him while he’s a Royal. If anything, it will hurt whichever team picks him up in 2012. Pitch count is overblown anyway. Find me a DIRECT LINK between pitch count and injuries. There is a somewhat plausible correlation between innings pitched the year before to an injury during the beginning of the following season
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 17, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am only human
But man they just look more confident all around. The pitching on the road trip was slightly above avg and now its even better. We ve been having games with 10+ hits which is bad ass. Yes its the NL but man even if thats a big part of us playing well it couldnt come at a better time. It appears Detroit has cooled off slightly so if we make good use of this week/weekend we could be within a game or two when we all thought there was no chance. We could lose the rest on the homestand, but i doubt it. Greinke on the bump tom. Its exciting again, thank god!
by 2LegittoShit on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the most common name in the world
Great to see ol’ Gil putting up the goose egg. Zack tomorrow night, gotta love the NL baby
Hillman's facial hair is inconsistent. I am anything but
by McClure 'stache on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, just Gil
it’s a bad joke from a stupid snl sketch
Hillman's facial hair is inconsistent. I am anything but
by McClure 'stache on Jun 17, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For anyone not at the game that wants a greinke shirt
They were selling gray ones in the stadium store. Same design, but without the FSN KC logo.
by ndroyalsfan on Jun 16, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
$35?
Pretty big crowd tonight, quite a few people missed out.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize it was that much
I just saw a few people wearing it. Glad I got my free one.
by ndroyalsfan on Jun 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing $35,
most t-shirts are $30 in the team store. Figured this one would cost a little more.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how much they cost......but I'd guess that's a little high.
I’d say more around 20 bucks…….but once again, just guessing. I got my free one too.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$28
And it was gray with powder blue lettering. Didn’t look very good IMO.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That stinks
I want one dark blue w/ the white lettering like the giveaway
by XBic on Jun 17, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to be stay positive, BUT...
I do have one question.
Why is Jacobs still dh’ing against lefties? Why is batting ahead of Callaspo against a lefty?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its called playing the percentages
either that or the element of surprise
you have to understand, Hillman looks at stats all the time
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs was 6-8 with 2HR's against Davies
Damning statiscal support for his inclusion! And Trey totally looked that up on BBRef
by kcbottom9th on Jun 16, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball managers love matchup stats
... jacobs's 8 PAs against Davis are more meaningful than his 100s of bad PAs against lefties in general
by Will McDonald on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did have TWO doubles tonight.
Maybe Trey is serious smart.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd like to find a way to credit Olivo or St. Willie
everything else being equal
by Will McDonald on Jun 16, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He batted 6th tonight too - where is GoBabies and NYroyal!
My argument is still in tact if you missed the fanpost about how he hits best in the 6th hole.
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 17, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope this is missing
this font
You do know both doubles were BS, right?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trey KNEW that the D-Backs would screw both defensive plays up on those hits
He’s that good.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jacobs faced davis 2 times in 2006 and 6 times in 2007
clearly, that HR in 2006 when jacobs was with the mets tells us a lot, mike’s a student of the game, you know he remembers everything about how to beat davis
by Will McDonald on Jun 16, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his post game press conference,
he did mention that Teahen has been struggling against lefties. That is why he was hitting 8th. Of course, nobody brought up the absurdity of Jacobs batting two spots ahead of him or ahead of freaking Callaspo.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing i can figure.......
Is that he is trying to instill confidence by keeping him in their……. Which i disagree with. Or who do you dh instead? B Pena? Maier? I mean it pisses me off too but i just cant find a much better lineup with him sitting. Not that trey dog has ever cared but if you dh B Pena then youre starting 2 catchers which isnt great either. I think it comes down to not having many other feasible options.
by 2LegittoShit on Jun 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just thankful the team has enough middle infielders
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 16, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad were still 1 short on competent MI
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough,
but why hit him ahead of Callaspo? If you’re not going to dh Pena, at least let Callaspo hit ahead of him.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its been well documented that when Bert hits up in the order.....
His numbers go down and he has been verbal about not liking to bat up in the order. Sounds stupid to me but his production does drop significantly. Plus look at the two burning hot streaks he has had. Both times he has been batting near the bottom of the order. Coincidence? Maybe. However, that on top of him apparently being more comfortable with this production I just dont think you can move him. Shitty problem for a mediocre, at best, offense.
by 2LegittoShit on Jun 17, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're talking about the 6th spot in the order.
Even if his “problem” with hitting higher in the order has a little merit, that shouldn’t include the 6th hole.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake......
Moving him to sixth would be an option. However, while Jacobs had a few balls that couldve been caught drop last night, I do feel that he is swinging a better bat and hitting the ball hard just right at folks. So by moving him I guess you could be potentially sending the wrong message to Jacobs and moving Bert yet again. While the difference between 6th and 7th in the order isnt much, I feel that Bert needs to have a solid spot in the order. Wherever it is (my vote is 7th). And moving Jacobs IMO wouldnt help Jacobs any and could be enough to shake up an aparently wierd approached Bert at the plate. Plus, Bert is on fire so I wouldnt try to fix whats not broken(sorry for the cliche). That being said I have no data to back that up, its just a personal opinion. If someone does have some stats regarding Bert and Jacobs I would love to see it. Your thoughts Warden?
by 2LegittoShit on Jun 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats?
Pick one. All numbers listed first are Callaspo’s, second is Jacobs.
BA 316 > .235
OBP .365 > .315
Slug .474 > .444
wOBA .360 > .329
K% 7.4% Much better than Jacobs’ 31.1%
There is just no reason to have Jacobs hitting ahead of Callaspo. All those numbers are for the season as well, totally ignoring Jacobs and his lower numbers against lefties (which he faced last night).
Even if you want Jacobs to drive in runs, shouldn’t he hit behind the guy who will be on base? I believe Rany made that point in April, yet we see the same problems.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Warden Im sold......
Thanks for looking up that stuff. After seeing it I agree with you. The real question will be if Trey-san has the Cajones to make this change. Again, my main point initially was that i didnt like Bert hitting 2nd. However, after seeing this info I would be ok with Bert maybe batting 6th. I guess the next question is if Teabags continues to hit he ll have to move back up. I think he(assuming he is still hitting) could be a reasonable number two hitter. However, I might be in the minority on that one.
by 2LegittoShit on Jun 17, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...thats a sobering thought....
the all singles, get on base, dont strike out guy is slugging significantly higher than the guy we brought in to provide ‘slug’….wow…
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maier plays CF, Bloomquist to RF, Guillen to DH.
Not a ton better, but also helps the defense.
by ndroyalsfan on Jun 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Maier to CF and Bloomy to SS.
TPJ is now below .100 for the year.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 16, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trey should just tell Willie that he's the starting SS for the rest of the year
Unless and until Aviles can come back and perform. At one point last night, I turned and looked back at the scoreboard and saw .320 in the jumble of numbers. At first I thought I was looking at somebody’s BA. Nope. TPJ was striding to the plate with his .320 OPS.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 17, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How sad is this? .320 OBP is below average, correct? He doesn’t even get to average when you add in his slugging!
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 3 for 31 on the year.
Yep, that’s right. He’s below the Pena line and batting .097.
by AxDxMx on Jun 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure glad the Royals signed Bloomquist
since Rany said that means TPJ’s days on the roster are over
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 17, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All hail Miguel Olivo
Gil couldn’t have done it without him
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still a long ways to go yet
but it’s fun while it lasts…
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i assume you mean interleague
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 16, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea,
whatever the cause i’ll take it for now.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 17, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its the NL
But its not like first place Detroit is doing well against the NL
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 17, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it all to hell....
I called a felix no hitter in SD tonite to my brother and a friend of mine….forgot to post it on here….he’s at 8 IP 1 hit
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 17, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he just did a complete game 2hitter I believe
Gutierres saved his ass in the 7th…it’s on the highlights shows now
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 17, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still want to trade Greinke for Felix?
The immoderate moderator
by NYRoyal on Jun 17, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way in hell
can we just sign Felix and add him to the rotation with Gil, Greinke, Davies, Banny/Hoch (platoon ’em)
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i assume you mean a
day/night platoon for Banny?
by benfunke on Jun 17, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have an unhealthy obsession with Felix...
he seems like an injury waiting to happen…thats the only thing that scares me off…and the impending FA
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 17, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 win streak...
Are the bees back? :shrug:
by CaseyRoyal on Jun 17, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Olivo...
will find ways for his SP to pitch a complete game.
Like tell the opposing batter what pitch is coming……….only………………..
he’s lying and they don’t know it until it’s too late!!!!!!!
Olivo is a criminal master mind of complete games!!
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 17, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great night at the K....
I got there early enough to watch BP, and it was like the men vs. the boys comparing AZ to KC. Now, obviously guys aren’t swinging out of their shoes in BP, but to see the ease that Justin Upton consistently drove the ball on a line to dead center or left center was impressive. I was in the LF seats, but it sure looked like he hit one off of the Hall of Fame building back behind the visitor’s bullpen. If he didn’t hit it in the air, it definitely got there on a bounce. It was reminiscent of A-Rod in BP, really. But Upton wasn’t the only one mashing the ball, so it wasn’t exactly encouraging, especially when you had to watch TPJ, TPJJ, and Bloomy all work their little flares and liners to the mid-point of the OF. But thankfully Gil held their bats down, while Doug Davis showed why he is Doug Davis.
The view from the OF seats is pretty sweet, as long as you don’t mind being that far away from the plate, and you can survive 3 or so innings of sun (plus 2 hrs of BP sun if you wish). It’s definitely a different vantage point than I’m used to seeing a Royals’ game from, and it was pretty cool to be able to see the ball come off the bat from back there, and also hear the communication between the CF & LF on fly balls when runners are on base. And as an added bonus, the fountains provided a constant light mist to help with the heat, which they were talking about on the radio being the hottest day so far at the K this year.
Other random notes:
I totally spotted (notice I didn’t say “stalked down”) Minda at the game, right as I was waking in. She must’ve been a little bit ahead of me in the line to enter at the gates, because right after I got in, I saw her and her posse taking pictures behind the Royals Hall of Fame building (take one by the “F” for “Fail!” is what I heard as I walked by). If it weren’t for the photo session I may have asked for her autograph. That would’ve been the moment of the day!
Roman Colon was the most entertaining/willing to interact with the fans during BP. For a guy who has a record of assaulting teammates, this was a good sign.
I would also like the record to state that I have officially struck out Alex Rodriguez in three pitches! Of course, this was at the “speed pitch” game out in the OF Experience, but those are just minor details. For those unfamiliar with its set-up, you get to choose what hitter you want to face (out of a list of 7—ARod, Bonds, Biggio, Andruw Jones, Chipper Jones, some mascot), and then it puts up a picture of the guy at bat. You throw your pitch (the key is to aim low) into a curtain type deal (check that—-a shredded curtain type deal), and it says ball or strike, and then plays a video of the hitter taking the pitch or swinging. One kid gave up a HR to Andruw Jones right before me. Ha. Anyway, I officially struck out A-Rod on three fastballs!! I was only 2 MPH away from the high speed of the day too (69 mph was the high), which is a bit jacked up since you’re throwing from about 20 feet away into a curtain thing that slows the ball down so much it’s not even close to accurate, but whatever. Funniest moment….while I’m in line, some kid about my age says he’s gonna try to throw 90 mph, and his friend tells him he’ll buy him a Coke if he can even get to 80. Poor guy didn’t throw above 50 mph, and quietly exited the area without talking to his friends after his performance.
Also, listening to the postgame show on the drive home, it appears Mark Teahen got a letter from a fan in the mail giving him hitting tips, and ever since he read it, he’s been on a hot streak. Maybe this person also told him to go with the high socks too. Go Socky McSockerington!
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
also.....playing off the random Berroa jersey sighting in Seattle the other day,
the two most out-of-place jerseys I spotted at the game were a David Eckstein Padres jersey, and a Michael Cuddyer Twins jersey.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuddyer's legit...
not all that different from seeing a teahen or buck jersey…guys who looked like theyd be around for awhile (so it doesnt become outdated after 4 months), seemingly nice guys and decent players.
eckstein padres jersey on the other hand?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jun 17, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
visual evidence....to her credit, she was in line at the "Be a Designated Driver" booth

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a her?
where return of tpj is a cause of celebration happens!
by blue bandwagon on Jun 17, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i believe so
though now that you say something…
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a girl
wearing a hat, men’s shorts, a watch with hairy legs standing next to two fat guys?
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 17, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the fan was signaling a protest to the Royals not signing Eckstein this offseason
by benfunke on Jun 17, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's
2 time All Star David Eckstein to you.
by kcbottom9th on Jun 17, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and 2-time World Series champion David Eckstein?
(i know he won 1 and seem to remember he won 2)
by benfunke on Jun 17, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed pitch v. Bonds
presumably the strikezone is from the thighs to the knees over the middle of the plate, and if Barry swings, he’ll crush it.
Did you do a Doug Davis delivery to get ARod
by BHWick on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, but i should have
there were other people in line, so i didn’t want to make them wait any longer.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While all of that seems cool and all...
the best part of the night was when Teahen came to the plate with the “MacGruber” theme music playing. Oh, and also getting a double dose of the latest Dominican hip-hop with Guillen and Olivo batting back-to-back.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, my brother and I got a good laugh out of the MacGruber theme song
I should go to games more often. This time was the Gil Meche shutout, last time was the comeback vs. the Indians and Kerry Wood. Something good happens every time I go… Except when it doesn’t.
by AxDxMx on Jun 17, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
made the trip from oregon to the k tonight as well...
good times all around. the biggest difference between the team i have seen throughout the season and the one i saw tonight was the defense. solid effort. i think our starting pitching is good enough that if the d and o gets even slightly better, we have a chance in this crappy division…
of course, the talk in our section wasnt about this sort of nonsense; but, rather, tpj’s assault on .100… oh and the hot chick who should have been wearing less a few seats over…
where return of tpj is a cause of celebration happens!
by blue bandwagon on Jun 17, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of the talk in our section was about a chick that was dressed appropriately in very little clothing.
AND a lady was dressed in way too little.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you stop by Grass Creek, WY on your way over?
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jun 17, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark the territory!
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals through 63
2008: 24-39
2009: 29-34
a sliiiight difference
BTW, through 59.. the record was 23-36 in 2008 and 25-34 in 2009.. so the hot streak helps. 29-34 is on pace for 74.5 wins
by BHWick on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we are a better team because Hochevar is better than Ponson/Ramirez
that’s a big difference…we also had a TON more injuries this year
We have played 5 more home games than road games which might come into play (we suck on the road)
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 17, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in other news, TPJ is now under the TPJ line
he’s hitting .097 on the season in 35 PA’s. Slugging .129.
But he’s drawn two walks!
Waiting for April.
by DC Royal on Jun 17, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Debbie Downer time
Glad the team is playing better, but what I am anxious to see is how they will fare Thursday thru Sunday. We have to face Haren on Thursday, Carpenter on Friday, and Wainwright on Sunday. (We do have Meche on Sunday, which helps)
Would be happy if we win 2 of the 4 games in that span; ECSTATIC if they find a way to win 3.
I must still believe in our division hopes – I even rooted for the Cardinals vs the Tigers, something I almost NEVER do. (For example, I rooted for Boston or the Yankees against the Cards when they played in interleague a few years back)
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Jun 17, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point re the division
I think we are just as good or even a tick better than Minnesota, Chicago, and Cleveland. That’s 3 out of 5, so with a little luck and improvement we can we can still be a player in this division. H
However, the (slim) hope I had for us to win the thing is gone when I match us up against the Tigers. The Tigers are back. We knew they would hit, and they’re doing exactly that even with injuries to Guillen and underperformance by Ordonez. The question mark for them going into the season was their pitching, but now they may have the best starting 5 in the division thanks to Verlander returning to legitimate ace status, Edwin Jackson taking a huge step forward towards solid #1/#2 starter, and Verlander returning to legitimate ace form, and some surprisingly good to great performances by two rookies – Porcello and Perry.
The Royals, on the other hand, have a pitching staff that matches up ok with the Tigers, but we are significantly weaker than them at everything else. Our offense, which we all agreed going in to the season was not a strength but had a chance to surprise, has been a tick worse than I expected due to injuries (Gordon, Aviles, Buck), underperformance (Aviles, DDJ, and to a lesser extent Jacobs), and the lack of a breakout season from one of the three perennial hopefuls (Gordon, Butler, Teahen). Our bullpen has been much worse than I expected due to injuries (Soria, Tejeda, Mahay, Bale, Waechter) and underperformance (Cruz, Mahay, Bale). The big problem is that our defense (which we knew was not a strength especially in the infield) has been absolutely awful. Too much to overcome here for us to win the thing, but if we improve in one of the three areas we could sneak into second place by the end of the year. All hope for first place is gone.
Granted, this a short-hand comparison of the two teams, but it is clear to me that the Tigers are better.
Waiting for April.
by DC Royal on Jun 17, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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