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Diamondbacks 12, Royals 5.
- Greinke was not at his best tonight, and still struck out nine Arizonans. This should tell you something about how good Greinke is, and how bad the National League is.
- That said, I don't see why Hillman left him in for 115 pitches when he was laboring pretty badly.
- Our defense is still terrible.
- Positives....uh....Mitch Maier was 3-for-5. Jose Guillen was 3-for-4. Mike Jacobs and Billy Butler both had two hits and a walk.
- Miguel Olivo was horrible today. 0-for-3 with two strikeouts to bring his season K:BB to 53:2. I didn't think I'd see anyone eclipse Todd Greene's 2003 in that regard. And yet, here we are. Do people still think that Buck's adequacy is worse than Olivo's brand of hopelessness?
- We let Tug Hulett into the game today. We'll probably demote him tomorrow. Not that it's incrediby relevant to this particular game, but baseball isn't much of a meritocracy when it comes to the 25th man types. Willie Bloomquist is a millionaire and Hulett is probably thrilled to be receiving a major league paycheck for once. Please let me know if you can find a difference between the two players that's worth a two-year, multimillion deal.
- Luis Hernandez pinch hit. Which is just amazing. Just go back and read up on the Camden Chat threads when Hernandez was the starting SS for the O's last year. Fun stuff.
- Luis Hernandez had a hit and an RBI. He probably DOES work the count better than Olivo!
- We're now 8-6 in games that the Cy Young frontrunner has pitched.
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I'm so frustrated
Pitch selection for Grienke and Olivo was brutal tonight. You’ve got a guy who is struggling on the mound especially with his breaking stuff… And yet you don’t use what’s effective for him. Even so, he pitched very well but not up to his standards.
Schrezer wasn’t great, but wasn’t bad. He held us down.
Olivo looked horrible catching the ball thrown from outfielders. Granted JoGui didn’t make a good throw with that worm-burner, but you have to stop the ball. And then the throw from Teahan, how do you just drop it? It was a little up the line on the first base side, but you are in the freaking major leagues. You catch that.
Sigh.
We can’t just keep giving away Grienke’s starts. We have to win when we’ve got the ace on the mound.
Wonder how the minor league guys did? Maybe that’ll make me feel better….
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side
everybody else lost in the AL Central… well except the 3rd place White Sox
by KCScuba on Jun 18, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird game for Greinke.
He definitely didn’t get hit hard, but the only game he’s really gotten hit hard was that Toronto game. He should have never been in there to give up the 2 run homer, that was just bad – you think Hillman would have learned after his last game in Cleveland. Seems like all the balls are finding holes the past few games he’s pitched – hell, he struck out 9 tonight and they still had like 8 hits. Which tells you everything they put in play is finding a hole, mix in the piss poor brand of defense he seems to inspire and it’s really a miracle he only gave up 4 runs. More offensive ineptitude, and hey, we look horrible again.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Jun 18, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A homer and three doubles given up....
so I guess they did square him up pretty well a couple times.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 3rd double is caught by a decent CF....
or by our CF actually running after the ball
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the upton double was a bloop
the other 2 arguably could have been got, he wasn’t exactly getting blasted around the diamond. Oh well, the peripherals are still good, he’ll come back around
realistically speaking
by slayor on Jun 18, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than anything
we’re seeing why it’s impossible to keep an ERA below 2 as a starter….luck catches up eventually.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
luck/awful defense....
2 ERs in zacks last start shouldnt have happened…cocos arm has cost zack a few ‘earned’ runs as well
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Pedro 97 and 2000 disagree with you....
and that was a much more difficult ERA to pitch in…and in a very difficult park to pitch in
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro was once in a generation
I doubt I’ll ever see better.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as do i....
I hate the Red Sox with a passion…right up there with the Cards…and I still caught as many pedro starts as possible
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was amazing to watch every fifth day
You KNEW the team was going to win. Basically the Bob Gibson of the 90s.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except way more dominant
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't put it that way
But Pedro was one hell of a pitcher.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and era adjusted stats have the comparison not even being that close
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and=any that ive seen
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
uh no, you guys dont give gibby any sort of respect, gibby was easily top5 dominant pitchers ever, pedro in top 10
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gibson pitched in a much more pitching-friendly era
He was also an amazing pitcher. But Pedro was too, and he pitched in the “steroid era.”
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm... how could we settle this?
Rally has Pedro’s 2000 at 10.1 WAR. He adjusts parks, era, for defense, etc.
I’d assumed that would be better than Gibson’s seasons… but he has Gibson at 11.9 in 1968 and 11.0 in 1969. Yikes
He actually has Clemen’s 1997 at 10.3, slightly higher than Pedro.
My own WAR calculations are similar for Pedro and Clemens — Pedro’s 2000 is the best with regular FIP-RA, and Clemens 1997 is slightly better with Baseruns-FIP.
Overall, I think it’s fair to say that while Pedro’s 2000 was more dominant than Clemens’ 1997 or Gibson’s 68-69 seasons on a game-to-game basis, that Gibson’s seasons (and maybe Clemens’ 1997 — which is hard for me to say) were more valuable because while they weren’t quite as dominant as Pedro when the pitched, Gibson (and maybe Clemens) were more valuable because they pitched significantly more innings.
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by devil_fingers on Jun 18, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad baseball didnt pimp Pedro like they did the sweet home run chase....
then maybe more people wouldve realized what they were seeing
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, both Greinke and Meche have suffered from bad defense this season
according to Stat Corner, both of their Outs minus expected Outs were at -5 before tonight’s game
Grienke was 18 last season - terrible luck/defense
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by devil_fingers on Jun 18, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Zach just doesn’t know “how to win.”
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really much better...
hosmer 0-3 2 bb 1 r
moose 1-5 3R HR
duffy 5 2/3 3 ER 6 k 0 bb
parraz 2-3 2b
cortes still sucks (hate to be right on this one, but i think i am)
kila 0-3 2bb 2R
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 18, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wasn't terrible terrible
but just better than the royals….. mouse homers… lough homered.. hosmer walked twice…duffy didn’t pitch horrible.. no walks.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 Ks for Duffy is pretty cool
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice to see mitch gets some hits
he’d hit .111/.179/.194 in his last 40 PAs
by royalsreview on Jun 18, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was there
And it was brutal. Got there late trying to get Fountain seats on a buck night, should have known better. Ended up sitting in 402(Korean DMZ) but spent most of the game wandering. Filled out 125 mass ballots to get a Turn St Lou Blue shirt that I just had to have, now I got a mark from where I used a golf tee on my finger to turn in 125 ballots. 25% off a upcoming game(on top of the 50% for filling out the 25 ballots online and the 50% for the August 22nd game).
I forgot why I hate buck nights, now I remember.
by TheSmokingPun on Jun 18, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck nights worked better in the past
Now that all of the buck night hot dogs, peanuts, and drinks are being sold out of the regular concessions the lines are awful. I remember going with similar attendance, and not having to wait because the Royals set up the stations in the outfield separate from the regular concessions.
"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."
by lobes on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully
They had the tents set up as well. Both outfield ones were up and upper deck had two at the far ends. I just went to the one in the upper left field deck, no wait at all. However there was a 30 minute wait at the one at the center of the deck.
by TheSmokingPun on Jun 18, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortuneatly people seem to have caught on to the whole Dri-Duck seat thing
I went to 3 games in April, showed up maybe 10 minutes before the first pitch (even on a Greinke day) and got the $7 seats each time.
Last 3 times I’ve tried to go (last week, 3 weeks ago, and may 18 or thereabouts) the seats have sold out over 2 hours in advance. the crazy thing is only one of those days was there a giveaway…and it was BEACH TOWELS.
I almost wish the royals were less popular so I wouldnt have to show up with a tent to get good cheap seats
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by RoyalPug on Jun 18, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still not selling
out….not even close, not that popular yet
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miguel Olivo has played catcher in every game since Buck was injured
and started 14 of 15 games.
Think he might be a bit exhausted by now?
Granted, if Trey stretches out Hochevar to 120 pitches tomorrow.. then it’s obvious that Dusty Baker gave him advice over the Cincy series.
by BHWick on Jun 18, 2009 3:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and we don't want that.....
does dusty use his bullpen effectively?
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
dusty just ruins any chance a starting pitcher will have a good career…Mark Prior key example, oh and Kerry Wood
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're exactly right...
(I should of /sarc’d that commetn)
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
Juan Gutierrez is a future Royals reliever
by BHWick on Jun 18, 2009 3:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew early we would lose this one
Too many left on base, errors at the wrong time etc. It just seems to be formulaic at this point.
I will say one thing though. Even though I think many arm injuries today are BECAUSE pitchers are babied too much, (there are some interesting studies that show this) there is still no reason to send Zack out there with over 100 pitches, when he is behind 2 runs, has little or no chance of winning, and actually looks as though he might be beginning to labor.
Hey, I have no problem with getting an extra inning or two out of him when he is cruising, and he is obviously our best chance to win that night. But there was no good reason to leave him in tonight. Those pitches when you are struggling a little and already behind take a higher toll. (and hurt your ERA)
Leave pitchers (including relievers) in a little bit longer when they have good stuff. But show just a little common sense about the whole thing. The entire bullpen was rested after a complete game, a day off, and Banny’s game. One inning in three days. Hell, they needed work!
Is it safe?
by KHAZAD on Jun 18, 2009 3:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
115 pitches while trailing
and struggling = stupid.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll risk getting lambasted again
As for the cheap seats, what I long for is the stadium filling up with the better seats first, then the cheap seats. This happens in other places, such as STL. In KC, the seats fill up sorta in reverse, with the Dri-Duck & the $9 Hy-Vees going first, then some of the other upper deck, then, reluctantly, the higher dollar seats on the lower level.
Difference is, in other parks it is harder to get tickets period, and they are more expensive in general, so when people go, they WANT to buy the most expensive seat they can.
Now, before everyone starts ripping me left and right, I DO realize that the reason we have a different dynamic in KC is because the team has SUCKED for nearly two decades, and until that changes, the ticket buying mentality of the fans won’t change either. Remember, all I’m saying is this is what I LONG for, not what I EXPECT given the current state of the franchise…
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this, but it's a different mentality
The economy won’t help either, especially if you have your family with you. I can’t remember ever watching a game from the Hy-vee level, yet probably have seen most of my games from the outfield plaza. Now, there is a difference, but for a while the two were priced similarly. The Dri-duck seats will fill up now, since they are cheaper and new to the fans. People just think differently, while I would prefer to sit closer and spend the extra money, I’m sure others would like to sit farther away and get themselves a beer or two for the same price.
"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."
by lobes on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny that you say this...
I can’t remember ever watching a game from the Hy-vee level
because as a kid, I don’t think I have a single memory of watching the Royals (live) when they all DIDN’T look like a bunch of white ants running around the field. I do remember looking down at the lower level with a longing sigh on many occasions.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 18, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lower level of any baseball stadium
is filled with (1) businesses who have bought season tickets for client entertainment/employee perk purposes, (2) die-hard fans/families who have generally had season tickets for years, (3) younger people (20-30’s) who are single and doing pretty well for themselves and looking for something to do with friends, (4) upper-middle and upper class families who don’t think too much at blowing through $200 or more to take the kids to a ball game with good seats, and (5) very random and sporadic fans/tourists who are in town to cheer on the visiting team, on a ballpark tour, or part of a vacation group.
When a team is as bad as the Royals have been for as long as they have been, every category except 2 (and maybe 5) becomes less willing to come out and spend the money. Hence, most of the people who come are families looking for fairly cheap entertainment, and the cheap seats fill up faster.
I agree, though, a consistently packed lower level is the hallmark of a great organization and/or fanbase. I really wish it would happen more often at the K, too, but it’s going to take quite a while to get back to that point.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 18, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of the problems with this is that the businesses
are giving away tickets…. and people who take them are trying to get rid of them… that’s how bad it’s been….
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olivo - Game Caller
Two things -
1) My brother made a great observation. Olivo is convinced that a breaking ball is the most effective pitch in baseball simply because he can’t hit it. So when our pitchers are up in the count 0-2 he calls for a breaking ball every time. Often it is taken for a ball, sometimes it is hung and crushed, but ALWAYS it takes our pitchers out of an aggressive mind-set. Olivo is afraid to challenge hitters because as a guess/fastball hitter himself, he’s absolutely positive that it’s impossible to hit a curve ball.
2) I have a real issue with Olivo catching every game that Buck is out. Isn’t part of the reason a starting catcher goes usually 2 of 3 games so he has enough time to review scouting reports and gameplan? I don’t get the sense that Olivo is really scouting hitters….
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
by labbadabba on Jun 18, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this is all part of the Trey magic
Very possible on the first point. And I can definitely see that. The only thing that I feel Olivo has done for our pitchers is to get them to throw inside more…. other than that, he hasn’t done crap.
and of course, why isn’t Brayan playing more? Trey, quit thinking the way you do. Everyone that gets called up sits for like 2 weeks, then finally gets a chance…. you have to realize that they were successful enough in AAA to get a shot at the bigs. You have to give it to them.
If Trey is still here when Mous and Hosmer make it up, they will sit for 3 weeks before they get their first start and by then GMDM will either send them back down so they get to play everyday or order his manager to play them. Will he do that? What do other successful managers do? LaRussa gets the callups in the first day they are up. Almost always. Not the biggest LaRussa fan, but you can’t argue with his results.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying batters on other teams have bats...
that are not afraid of curve ball??? You must show me these sacred bats! They have surely been blessed by Jobu!

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 18, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is no evidence
that supports a catcher’s calling of the game having any effect on the pitching results.
And yeah, Pena should spell Olivo. Not because Olivo is tired, but because Olivo sucks.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no evidence but we all (who have pitched or caught) know that it's true
It’s just like there is no evidence that taking performing enhancing drugs doesn’t enhance performance….
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we know it's true at all
I think good pitchers pitch well regardless of the catcher, and that all studies done on the subject back that up.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a bit surprised to see Greinke in the 7th, but
then again would you rather have a tired Greinke or a well-rested Bale/Colon/Mahay/Farnsworth/Wright? If anything, I think the reason to pull him after 6 is that you’re wasting his high pitch count on a game that seems lost already.
by benfunke on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buddy Bauman...
I don’t want to threadjack or anything, but I was hoping somebody on here could fill me in on the $ for Buddy’s signing bonus or where I could find this info.
Thanks!
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by cardzfanbub on Jun 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
threadjacker....
not sure. I’ve been asking for a site that shows signings as they happen, but no one seems to know.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like since you are the only...
replyee. I am safe from being a threadjacker.
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by cardzfanbub on Jun 18, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please let me know if you can find a difference between the two players that’s worth a two-year, multimillion deal.
tough to do, this is why writers and commentators overuse the word “intangibles”
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by Royal Kingdom on Jun 18, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Greinke was not at his best tonight, and still struck out nine Arizonans. This should tell you something about how good Greinke is, and how bad the National League is
uh Grienke is good but not great, one season like this does not mean anything to me. second of all its the Diamondbacks…there a bottom dwellar in their division…and not to mention they still SMOKED us for 12 runs. you sir are way off base on saying how bad the national league is…I hope for your sake the Redbirds do not come into Kauffman and bring the brooms. because you sir will be eating your words for that.
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Cards fan
If Grienke was in your system all I would hear from you is the second coming of Cy Young. GIve me a break.
Especially after all the Colby Rasmus hype. Even though it’s deserved, the Grienke hype would be like the Albert Pujols hype was.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For instance
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IVE
never really jumped on the Rasmus hype, infact i dont jump on the prospect bandwagon ever
reason why? because they havent played in the majors yet…its a complletely different monster, Rasmus has definately turned his season around since the start and is coming through with some of the hype but not quite there yet…dont get me wrong I would love to have Grienke on my team but until he shows me he can do it year in and year out I am not going to jump on the train yet. One good year is great, but i want more then one.
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a very good pitcher last year
Which you seem to be completely ignoring.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
so what if I am a Cards fan i grew in st louis i live here in KC now, and as i try and root for the Royals, it is definately hard because of most of the fans around here being fairweather fans, and have what i consider no reason to really hate the Cardinals…the 85 thing gets old, and really that was the last time the Royals were even relevant, besides the strike shortened year. and 2003? the season where they blew it in the last week. There currently the team that plays where I live, i will forever be a Cards fan first and foremost, but nothing wrong with me rooting for the Royals, theyre in two seperate leagues, yes theyre rivals based on geographic location, who cares…there will however be a sea of red come this weekend
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by DESTROYER on Jun 18, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you missed my point.
The point was, if he was in your system you would think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And I’m talking about what you are really passionate about… whatever it is. Baseball, hotdogs, your lawn, your kids…. If Grienke was an object within that, you’d be gushing every time you thought about it… That’s what I’m talking about.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but bias gives us insight
that’s why we’re the only ones who know that the Cy Young be renamed the Rowdy Hardy by 2020
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by devil_fingers on Jun 18, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welp
uh Grienke is good but not great, one season like this does not mean anything to me.
One Cy Young caliber season on the heels of a breakout year means….nothing? Sorry, but that’s just not an opinion I can consider seriously. I’m all for the three year trend. But at this point, anyone who thinks Greinke isn’t a legit No. 1 – aka “great” – is in denial.
second of all its the Diamondbacks…there a bottom dwellar in their division…and not to mention they still SMOKED us for 12 runs.
Liberal use of “us,” there, I’d say. Even wackier then, say, a Red Sox fan referring to the Royals as “us.”
We handily beat the Diamondbacks the night before behind Meche. Zack had us in this one for six before the wheels came off and the scrubs came in. One game isn’t any proof that D’Backs are better. I don’t see your point here.
you sir are way off base on saying how bad the national league is
The AL is 63-50 thus far versus the NL. A winning record for the AL would be the fifth straight year that the AL won the interleague battle. And that’s just head-to-head, without bringing up the changes in numbers when an AL player goes to the NL and vice versa. Look at Matt Holliday and Miguel Cabera’s first AL season, for examples.
I hope for your sake the Redbirds do not come into Kauffman and bring the brooms. because you sir will be eating your words for that.
The Cardinals are a better team than the Royals. They also wouldn’t be a contender in the American League. I won’t eat any of my words, because they’re all backed up by evidence. You and your “you sir” bombast aren’t backed up by anything.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
who stole NHZ and replaced him with NYRoyal?
by benfunke on Jun 18, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, nice.
I really need to start cranking on my blogging again if the above post is now seen as atypical.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Jun 18, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is.
Get on it.
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by 306008 on Jun 18, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course,
you can’t please everyone….
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