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The 100 Greatest Royals of All-Time - #31 Lou Piniella

Finally continuing the countdown, the 31st Greatest Royal of All-Time is Lou Piniella.

1969-1973
.286/.327/.404
700 G 45 HR 348 RBI

Today's baseball fans know Lou Piniella as a fiery manager and the star of Aquafina and DirecTV commercials. Although his base-throwing tirades have turned Lou into a bit of a caricature of himself, he has assembled an impressive managerial resume that includes playoff appearances with three different ballclubs, over 1700 wins, and a World Championship in 1990 with the Cincinnati Reds.

Many of those fans missed Lou Piniella, the ballplayer. And as a ballplayer, Lou was a competitor who maximized his talents. He put together an eighteen year career with over 1700 hits, all after four teams gave up on him and labeled him a career minor leaguer. He was a lefty-masher who hit for average with good gap power. He had notoriously bad plate discipline, but still hardly struck out. He displayed a lot of effort in the outfield, despite being one of the slowest outfielders in the league. He was a fan favorite in both Kansas City and in New York. And just as he is known for his temper as a manager, he was known for his temper as a ballplayer.

I suppose some may find it hypocritical that a manager who was known for smashing water coolers as a player would, as a manager, reprimand a player who is known for smashing water coolers. They may be right, but as a parent now, I totally understand the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude. I mean, just because I spent my college years in a drunken stupor without any ambition or thought to the future, doesn't mean my son should make the same mistake.

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Louis Victor Piniella grew up in West Tampa, Florida, the grandson of Spanish immigrants. In Pony League, he played alongside Tony LaRussa. Each would go on to win more than 1500 games as a manager. After one season at the University of Tampa where he was named All-American, Lou signed with the Cleveland Indians in 1962. Just a few months later he was drafted by the Washington Senators.* He hit .310 as a 19 year old kid in A ball, but the following year the Senators dealt him to the Baltimore Orioles where he made his Major League debut, getting into four games in 1964 at the age of 20.

*-In 1962, in an effort to curb bonuses to amateurs, MLB allowed teams to draft first year players from other organizations for just $8,000 unless that player was on the MLB roster. Just one of many stupid ideas by owners.

Lou developed his reputation as a firebrand at an early age. After committing an error for a low level minor league team in Aberdeen, South Dakota, a fan rode him hard jeering that Lou would soon find his way back in the bush leagues. To which Lou responded, "Where in the fuck do you think I am?"

In 1966, the Indians re-acquired Piniella, but they would let him languish in AAA for three years, despite two .300 seasons. In 1969, the American League introduced two new franchises to the league - the Kansas City Royals and the Seattle Pilots. Piniella was left unprotected for the expansion draft and one club snapped him up - the Pilots. Piniella had a great spring training, but was unliked by manager Joe Schultz and was soon made available in trade discussions.

Lou Piniella has the red ass. He doesn't think he's been playing enough...He says he knows they don't want him and he's going to quit baseball rather than go back to Triple-A. He says that once you get labeled Triple-A, that's it.
-Jim Bouton, "Ball Four"

Royals Director of Player Development Lou Gorman was familiar with Piniella from his days with the Orioles and advocated that General Manager Cedric Tallis acquire the outfielder. At the end of camp the Pilots shipped him to Kansas City for outfielder Steve Whitaker and pitcher John Gelnar. It would be one of many costly mistakes the Pilots would make that year.

Piniella not only made the Royals opening day roster, but he was the first batter in franchise history, doubling in his first at-bat with the club. The left-fielder would go 4-5 in the Royals inaugural game with a walk, run and RBI, and would win the hearts of Royals fans with his hard-nosed play.

Sweet Lou's bat turned red hot in July as he went on a thirteen game hitting streak where he hit .491 (26-53) with three home runs and 15 runs batted in. Piniella ended the year hitting a team high .282 with 11 home runs and 68 runs batted in. He led the team in doubles and triples and was second in runs batted in. For his efforts, he was named American League Rookie of the Year.

Lou avoided the sophomore jinx and got off to a sensational start in 1970. He reached safely on a hit in 23 of his first 26 games with eleven multi-hit games. A foot injury would cause him to miss some games in May, but by the end of the month he was among the top five in hitting with a .343 average. He finished the year with a .301 average - the first .300 hitter in team history - tops on the team and eighth in the league. Amazingly, Piniella never went more than two consecutive games without a hit. He slammed eleven home runs and was second on the club with 88 runs batted in.

Piniella would start slowly in 1971, missing nearly the entire month of May with a broken thumb. A career high eighteen-game hitting streak in July would lift his average from .244 to .270 where it would hover much of the remainder of the season. It would still be a down season for Lou however. He would hit .279, but with just three home runs and 51 runs batted in. A notorious "bad ball" hitter, Lou would draw just 21 walks.

He's so anxious to hit the ball, he swings at everything. Good pitches, bad pitches, inside, outside, high or low. He doesn't let anything go by. Every time he's on base, he has earned his way with the bat. He never walks.
-Royals coach George Strickland

Lou worked with Royals hitting coach Charley Lau that winter in Venezuela and tore up the winter league with a .330 clip. He went into that spring with renewed confidence.

This is the year I will find out just how well I can play baseball. I feel I'm at the point where I either remain an average player or turn the corner and become a really good one. I have to go out and prove I can become a good one.

Lou easily had his best season in a Royals uniform in 1972. He hit .312, second in the league only to Rod Carew. He finished with eleven home runs and 72 runs batted in. He led the league with thirty-three doubles on the fast new surface of Royals Stadium and was named to his only All-Star team. He also grounded into a league-leading twenty-five double plays.

Instead of turning a corner, however, Lou suffered a major decline in 1973. A dreadful May would sink his season as his average slumped to just .250. He would hit nine home runs and drive in 69 runs, but would post just a .291 on-base percentage. That winter, the thirty year old outfielder was traded to the New York Yankees for thirty-seven year old reliever Lindy McDaniel.

"Getting traded to the Yankees was the best thing that happened to me. I wasn't happy initially because I played five years in Kansas City. I lived in town and had a lot of friends in the area. It was basically a young team that was growing up together, so a lot of my teammates were still from the original expansion team, and Kansas City was a nice place to live. At the same time, coming to New York was the best thing that could've ever happened to me. If you can play in New York, you can play anywhere."


McDaniel had been a solid reliever for many years, but he was at the end of his career, and Royals fans never forgave him for being dealt for one of their favorite players. Royals General Manager Cedric Tallis made many brilliant trades in the early days of the franchise. This trade was not one of them. Lou would hit .305 in his first season in New York, winning the hearts of Yankee fans. A few years later, he would face his old teammates in Kansas City as the Yankees and Royals faced off in the American League Championship Series in four out of five years.

Lou would spend the next eleven seasons in the Bronx before retiring in 1984 with a career .291 average. He would be named Yankees manager in 1986, replacing Billy Martin. In 1988, he was removed and named General Manager as owner George Steinbrenner hired - Billy Martin. When Martin was fired mid-season, Piniella stepped back in the dugout as manager. Ah, those were the Yankees.

Lou was a television analyst in 1989, and when Steinbrenner refused to let the Blue Jays hire Piniella, Lou decided he had enough of the Bronx. The following year he took over the Cincinnati Reds and led them to a World Championship. After three seasons in Cincinnati, Piniella took over the Mariners, leading the moribund franchise to four post-seasons, including a record-tying 116 win season in 2001. He would leave in 2003 to manage the Devil Rays, and after three losing seasons would take over the Chicago Cubs in 2007.

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Welcome back!

The top 100 has been sorely missed.

I’m very surprised Sweet Lou is so low.

P.S. Amazing Avenue, eat our dust!

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd, as always

not much to say about these great essays. I used to love Pinella’s fieriness as a manager — now I find all that crap beyond embarrassing.

It’s one thing to want your son not to waste his college years drunk, it’s another thing to get into a drunk driving accident on the way to pick him up from the police station.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on Jun 29, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good write up

What was extremely difficult for me was having to root against Lou once he donned the pinstripes. Made even more difficult by the fact that Lou was the first star of our brand new team, and as such earned a special place in the hearts of KC fans.

Slowly, that faded away, aided greatly by the budding rivalry with the Yankees, to the point where I eventually hated Lou just like any other Yankee. Then, after a proper amount of reflection, you sorta realize that it wasn’t Lou’s fault, and while you can’t root for him against KC, you really shouldn’t hate him either.

Not the same situation as Damon, as he evidently forced the trade and it seemed OK to hate him for it sooner…..

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Jun 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I still have that rookie card of Lou’s. No idea what it is worth.

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Jun 29, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Luv Lou!

And, I hadn’t thought of it before, but he is also the original Battle of Grass Creek. Kinda, sorta.

"Well, if we destroy Kansas the world may not hear about it for years." Blofeld

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on Jun 29, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Jun 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both are always smiling

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou's

family name is more properly spelled in the ancient Basque form “Pi Niella’x” which roughly translates to “The Jesus”.

"Well, if we destroy Kansas the world may not hear about it for years." Blofeld

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou's trade

might have been the first time I was pissed at the Royals. Good Job! You are almost getting down to a 25 man roster.

Is it safe?

by KHAZAD on Jun 30, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And it was the last time you were pissed at the Royals, right?

I don’t think they have ever made a bad trade since.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 30, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We miss the awesomeness that was Bankhead and Kingery

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jun 30, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

December 10, 1986 a day that will live in infamy!

The Royals sneak attacked the Seattle Mariners on December 10, 1986, thus starting the Battle for Grass Creek. Scott Bankhead was traded by the Kansas City Royals with Mike Kingery and Steve Shields to the Seattle Mariners for Rick Luecken and Danny Tartabull. Tartabull went on to betray the Royals to the Evil Empire of the New York Yankees, but not before Tartabull made the trade an obvious steal for the Royals.

by AxDxMx on Jul 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent write-up

Thanks for this.

Did you come across anything regarding possible enmity between Piniella and McKeon in ‘73 that contributed to the decision to trade him? It doesn’t really matter to me, as I resolved long ago to blame McKeon in part for it anyway and can hardly change my ways at this late date. I might counsel my sons to think differently, however, depending on what you were able to dig up.

by 2X2L on Jun 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for bringing this up

I read something early on in my research but kinda dismissed it until I could find corroborating stories, and never found those. Now I can’t recall what it was. Something about McKeon giving up Piniella or something like that.

McKeon apparently rubbed a lot of players the wrong way in addition to blowing out some arms. He was a great Royals manager.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jun 30, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

apparently rubbed a lot of players the wrong way in addition to blowing out some arms. He was a great Royals manager.

and that was the last time that ever happened to the Royals.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on Jun 30, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This AP picture accompanied the Murray Chass article I mentioned above. The sports editor must have liked it, because they had run the same photo in ’73 accompanying an earlier article about Piniella. Iconic.

by 2X2L on Jul 1, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope someday he turns his life around like Josh Hamilton

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t remember where and when I read about Piniella and McKeon not getting along, but a little Googling turned up some pertinent material.

First, from an article by Murray Chass in The New York Times of March 6, 1974, “Lou Piniella: Yankee’s Last Angry Man Puts Reins on His Tempestuous Nature”:

Then last year, hampered by a salary dispute, weight problems, and differences with Manager Jack McKeon, [Piniella] plummeted to .250 and became expendable in Kansas City, where he had become one of the most popular players among the fans.

“He was new,” Piniella said of McKeon, "and we had a conflict about what he thought and what I thought. For example, I’d come to the park from time to time and find I wasn’t in the line-up. I asked why and he told me he had a hunch that so and so would do better. That started the friction.

“I didn’t quit on myself, but I don’t think I extended myself as hard as I had in the past. I don’t mean in a game but maybe I could have done more before the games, like maybe take extra hitting.”

The article says nothing about how “the friction” between Piniella and McKeon progressed after it started, but having already mentioned it as a factor that hampered Piniella in 1973, it leaves the impression that it worsened and that Piniella sulked over it.

Chass opens and closes the article by making reference to Piniella’s habits regarding water coolers. Here’s the send-off:

Piniella believes he has successfully quelled his tempestuous nature, but that doesn’t mean he’ll never get mad at himself if he doesn’t do what he should, he commented, “but you have to control yourself.”

And sometimes you have to have help.

“Like last year,” Piniella said, “they had a wire mesh screen around the water cooler at the new park in Kansas City so I couldn’t kick that one.”

At the time of the trade, McKeon cited other reasons for it in an article by Joseph Durso of December 8, 1973 covering MLB’s winter meetings, “MORE TRADES: Yankees Obtain Piniella For McDaniel” etc.:

“We had to move him,” said Jack McKeon, manager of the Royals, “to make room for our young guys. We’ve picked up three good pitchers here—McDaniel, Marty Pattin and Nelson Briles. We scored only three runs less than Oakland all season and, if we’d had more pitching depth, we could have won the Western title.”

“The young guys” I suppose were Wohlford and Poquette. However, perhaps because Poquette was held back by knee problems, or perhaps because Tallis didn’t ultimately agree that “the young guys” would satisfactorily occupy the room that Piniella’s departure made for them, he dealt for Vada Pinson just before spring training of ’74.

We’ve discussed one of McKeon’s “hunches” before, the one regarding Brett’s likelihood of success here.

by 2X2L on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

Outstanding stuff. Many thanks!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Great write-up as usual.

by cookierojas73 on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I always liked

Lou Piniella.

I think there ought to be a wing of the Hall of Fame for “career baseball men,” people who have distinguished themselves in several ways, but not quite enough in any single one to merit inclusion. I’m thinking here of people who strongly influenced a lot of other players over many years.

Johnny Pesky is the kind of guy I’m thinking of, player, scout, coach. Buck O’Neil would be an obvious choice. Don Zimmer, maybe. Lou wouldn’t go into the HOF as a player, and as of now he wouldn’t go in as a manager – I suspect if he takes a team to the playoffs a few more times and maybe wins another Series, he might – but he’s certainly been a successful career baseball guy on several levels.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jul 1, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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