Slumping Royals Searching for Answers
by Freneau on Jun 3, 2009 10:57 PM EDT
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Yuck.
Thank God we've got a day game tomorrow, because I don't think anyone feels good right now. How did everything collapse this quickly? Yes, it is slightly cherry-picked, but here we go:
First 29 games: 18-11
Next 23 games: 5-18
That's a completely brutal stretch. That's 2006 Royals bad. That's Neifi Perez bad. That's... well, share your own. I find it amazingly that the Royals have managed to be so uninspiring despite the presence of Zack Greinke. They're 8-3 in Greinke starts (which is bad enough) and 15-26 in all other games. Essentially, through fifty odd games, the Royals are the worst team in the AL+ Greinke.
The Royals fittingly were absolutely dismantled tonight in Tampa -- no hitting, no pitching -- and have now lost six straight games.
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doesn’t seem right to claim first after a game like that
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jun 3, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No easy answers
Is there a chance Hillman takes the fall? Not sure where else Moore turns for a shake-up…perhaps a few obligatory AAA call-ups (DiNardo? Ki’la?).
This must be the kind of stretch that lost Seitzer the ’Zona job…strange how no one seems to be listening to him anymore.
Thank God we have a day game tomorrow?
Billy:
What we need is a rain out
Teabag: I can get us a rain out
Billy: Man, there ain’t been a cloud in weeks. Not to mention we’re supposed to play in a freaking dome.
Teabag: Hundred bucks says i can get us a rainout for tomorrow
Billy: You’re on
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 3, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
anyone here
think we dont need major roster shakeups now? i still dont think this team is this bad but they keep proving us wrong. they are not even competing.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
Give it a rest
with the I was the first one to think we need to change things garbage.
i'm sorry,
but where in my post does it say i was the first one to mention that?
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
fire everyone from Moore on down save Greinke and Soria....
and petition selig for an expansion draft.
We’ve got a pretty ‘new’ stadium and surely we could change our name and team colors, nobody would even notice
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 3, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 3, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
But it would likely just be rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic. Besides, Trey would probably have Kila pinch running while Bloomie DHs or some stuff like that.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
This ____ Bad
Howell-for-Gathright Bad
Jacobs-versus-LHP Bad
Jose Guillen in the field bad
Kyle Farnsworth versus Jim Thome bad
Horacio Ramirez in the major leagues bad
Ross Gload extension bad
WIllie Bloomquist at more than league minimum bad
Alberto Callaspo versus the Breathalyzer bad
Miguel Olivo Blocking Pitches Bad (but at leats he controls the running game! Um…)
5 utility infielders onthe roster bad…
and so on
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 3, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Should be down to 3
by Saturday, right?
You have to think Tug will be sent back to Omaha tomorrow when Coco arrives.
Luis going back down when Luke comes up.
Of course, that means TPJ stays and plays a lot, but at this point. What else is there?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
I apologize.
That came across as pissy. I mean there really isn’t much that can be done. If we trade anyone with the exception of Zack, we would be selling really low. We need for the pieces we have in place to right the ship, get their number back to career averages and then maybe someone will want to talk trades. We could fire GMDM we still have Arbuckel waiting behind him. Gotta admire that phillies roster. We could fire Trey and replace him with John Gibbons. I am not sure what that would do maybe John could get into it with Farnsworth. Finally a question for you guys and gals, if the Braves gave us the same package of player they just gave up to the Pirates-would you trade DDJ?
the roster is just weird
and is filled with bad players who, other than maybe jacobs, aren’t over-rated outside of Dayton’s office
with Hochevar seemingly stalled, the question becomes, can this team compete next year either?
I think trading Meche could make sense, but I can’t see that happening
are you saying he'd turn down an escape from this?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
you are right... just looked it up
though I guess potentially he could waive it…
it doesn’t really matter, as it would never happen
barring an insane breakout from AG or BB, until 2011, I see this team being the same as it is now
everyone else in the system is too young
don't know enough about the players in the deal to sa one way or the other
Hernandez looks like he could be another Carl Crawford, or he could be another Joey Gathright
I gues I hold to the trivial truism that any trade is the right trade for the right offer.Even guys I really like like DDJ. I think it should be clear now, even to Dayton Moore, that his team isn’t contending this season (if only he’d have bothered to read Royals Review this offseason. Kind of hard to do when your office doesn’t have a computer, though).
Objectively speaking, outside of Grienke, Meche has to be a good chip. Despite the frustrations of fans, he’s actually pitched quite well this season. His contract is still favorable, although it proably doesn’t look as good as it did a year ago. Frankly, they should definitely be at least taking calls on him — he’s not an age where he can expected to continue, as every injury-like appearance hurts his value even more.
That’s too bad, because I like Meche and he’s been a horse for the team, but hey need to take what they can get. Assuming he’s healthy, he’s one of the top 15 SPs in the AL, at the moment.
sadly, the only person dumb enough to trade for Mike Jacobs is… wait for hit… Dayton Moore.. I didn’t read anything from anyone in the “industry” who thought it was smart at the time. He got Leo Nunez in the offseason. Right now, everyone sees that Billy Butler is playing 1B over him, and Al pitchers have figured him out… he’s the same .315 OBP, .500 SLG (in a good year) he always was.
Guillen might get something, but, again, only Dayton Moore is stupid enough to think he could possibly be worth the contract. As I’ve been saying for a whlie now, the Royals shouyld take the first offer they get for him invovlling a bad of balls and more than half of JoGui’s contract.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I wonder if teams aren't smartening up on the "closer" bit
I mean, getting smarter than the Royals,
But, yeah, the idea that Soria’s “untouchable” is pretty silly, whether from management or fans.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
No problem
I really don’t know what to do. This is just wrong on so many levels. I know that the game has it’s ebbs and flows, but we just aren’t competitive and by all rights this team should not be playing this poorly. This has been going on for far too many games to just poo-poo it as a bad stretch.
Part of me says that the players seem to have quit on Hillman, but I think firing him could throw things into disarray. Only those on the inside really know what the team’s perception of him is, so I can’t really speculate on whether that would help or not.
Part of me says that we need to make some trades in order to re-stock the upper minor leagues and reconfigure this roster, and a (very small) part of me says that the team is lacking confidence, and perhaps a trade FOR a player would show faith by the front office and maybe kick-start things (like trading for jack wilson, for example).
I get that the team has some holes, but they also do have a lot of positives, but it’s like every possible hole that the royals have is just getting brutally exploited.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Time to call up
Kila, Hosmer, Moustakas, Cortez, Duffy, and Melville
Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.
Here's something fun
this doesn’t include tonight’s numbers, but as of this comment’s date and time at FanGraphs
Mike Jacobs’ 2009 WAR: 0.2
Ross Gload’s 2009 WAR: 0.2
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
what's even scarier is how much more Jacobs is overpaid than Gload
even without taking into account that it’s an arb year
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
What would his WAR be if he didn't face lefties?
DM’s roster construction + Trey’s usage = @##
by stuckinstl12 on Jun 4, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
probably a bit better
but not as much as you’d think, since playing time is part of WAR
yay platoon DHs
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
true true
would someone be more willing to trade for him if he weren’t overexposed against lefties?
like an NL team looking for a lefty bat off the bench in a playoff run?
by stuckinstl12 on Jun 4, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
what do want back for him?
I mean, naturally, I don’t know what he’d get. Maybe Ruben Amaro is getting cocky from the Ibanez deal and wants Jacobs to take over in RF for something.
But how much would you give up for a pinch-hitter/horrible first baseman? I mean, seriously, by playing him in the field everyday, you’re basically saying “we couldn’t get Ross Gload, so we got the next best thing. Please don’t hit to the right side of our infield!”
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
seems as if you pissed off Dunn and Ibanez with your fancy FA value chart this offseason....
although, I think the Ibanez contract will still end up bad, while I think Dunn will be worth it.
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't blame me, blame the project systems!
I thought the DUnn deal was pretty good, actually. However, while he’s been hitting like crazy, check it out, he’s giving away all those runs above average with his glove.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
the one thing i dont get about the projections....
is HOW Dunn, or anyone for that matter, is better off for their WAR, to butcher the OF rather than just DHing.
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
well, the projectoins always regress to the mean
Even guys like Dunn and Guillen are unlikely to to keep being as horrible as they have been so far this year.
I projected both ways… I think if you assume they would hit just as well as DHs, then Dunn, Burrell, etc. are probably ab it more valuable as DHS. Dunn probably hits well enough to be an above average player as a DH.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah...logic to me just dictates that....
if you’re going to be costing your team lots of runs more than average out there, then you might as well just do what you’re good at.
Thinking about it the opposite way, would TPJ become less valuable if we somehow were allowed to not ever have him hit (oh, and he was actually a legitimately good fielder)?
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
overall, the team would be better off if Dunn just DHed
I mean, at the rate he’s going now, he would definitely be better off as a DH according to even the must brutal positional adjustments. It’s just crazy how bad he’s been this year.
TPJ is a bad enough hitter that he would be more valuable (although that doesn’t mean he’d actually be valuable) if he didn’t hit.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
the TPJ thing is just a guess, but I'm pretty confident
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
so RE: Dunn....
is there a difference b/w value to the team vs. Dunn’s individual ‘value’?
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a tough one to figure out
the “value to the team” assumes that they have someone (let’s assume Dunn’s in the AL where he could DH) hit and field well enough that Dunn could move to DH and Dunn wouldn’t be moving, e.g., Pat Burrell of of the Dh spot.
So that issue is as much or more about the value of the other players than Dunn.
The individual value of Dunn is related to how much he’s worth on the open market, without considering specific team context.
But it’s late, and I may very well be screwing this up.
Just two day until I get to see Zack up close!
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
thats starting to lose its luster....
it means you also have to see miggy, bloomy, tpj, tpjj, teahen, davey, jogui, etc up close
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand how a player can regress to the mean with his glove
That doesn’t make sense unless there’s a reason they are so bad in the field. Guillen is not suddenly going to get better, or have all the balls hit right at him. So how does that regress to the mean?
i'll venture a response in d_f's place, that
Guillen’s overall play has been so bad that it almost certainly is below his true average ability (even though that might be low as well). He will eventually return to playing closer to his average ability, and as low as that may or may not be, it will be better than he has performed (if you can call it that) so far.
I've read your response three times, and
it is both encouraging (it shouldn’t get any worse and maybe better), and depressing at the same time. You have captured the yin and the yang that is the KC Royals. Good job!
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
i’ve been considering a fanshot with a blurb about how the players’ performances so far compare to expectations—basically none of the royals are exceeding expectations; in fact, almost all are below (with a few exceptions like Greinke and maybe Teahen and some others).
but i guess the good news is that at least it’s not the case that the players are playing well AND the team is losing.
I don't know about that
I think I’d be willing to argue this is his TRUE fielding level. I haven’t seen anything to make me think otherwise, other than a couple of bad errors he made that quite honestly, if you gave him that play 1,000,000 times, I would think he’d make it at least 999,990.
i'd be happy with even a marginal prospect.
two years away, three years away, whatever.
by stuckinstl12 on Jun 4, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
note that he's been regressing vs. RHP as well
he struck out twice tonight
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 4, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
FIRE MIKE BARNETT
OH WAIT WE DID.
I just don’t see much that can be trade or wanted by other teams. No player has over a .800 OPS, that is laughably bad. The only positional players that are performing at least average for their positions (Buck and Callaspo) have major holes in their games on defense.
Mike Jacobs is 2nd on the team in BB’s…Ponder that one
Farnsworth extended his streak to 14 performances without a run allowed. That’s good.
This team is the most frustrating team to watch in quite a while. They were taking the right approach early in the season working counts, drawing walks and all of a sudden that has stopped throughout the entire roster. How could that be?
Mark Teahen probably has the most value to teams positionally speaking and I don’t think he would bring anything worth trading for at the ML level.
I look forward to June 9
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Most frustrating for sure
At least in the past, I knew we were god awful. This team got my hopes up. For that they should be ashamed of themselves. How dare they give me false hope.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
my 2009 royals analysis consists of two words...
they suck.
where return of tpj is a cause of celebration happens!
I do not see how Hillman still has his job
Not that firing him would necessarily cure anything, but a change of manager and a purge of the roster, and much of the coaching staff, has to happen after the last month. Almost no one deserves to keep his job the way this team is playing. And doing nothing is just giving the fans the finger.
Our performance is on DMGM, not Hillman.
Hillman makes some boneheaded moves, but as has been discussed, all managers do that. There’s not much he can do when the GM brings in a parade of guys who can’t hit.
by hippdoghipp on Jun 4, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Its not like many of us thought this offense would be scoring many runs or this defense would be making many plays. It was pretty clear before the season we were who we thought we were.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
I don't know about that
I think I’d be willing to give Frank White a shot. He did manage his team in Wichita to the title series. And while he does say some dumb stuff on tv, he does say some things that make me think he’d be better than Hillman. Plus, he brings automatic respect to the clubhouse as Gordon, Butler, Kila, Mitch Maier, and Greinke were all on that team in Wichita.
Jacobs was looking fine hitting .270 with a .340 OBP
Now he can’t hit and both averages drop .03 points.
Coco is just the worst though. He is garbage in the outfield as far as holding runners. I don’t care if he makes some great plays and has good range. And he can’t hit on top of that. What happened to his .280 career average? Yes, he’s drawing more walks but he needs to hit better if he’s batting 1st. He’s not a leadoff hitter, put Dejesus first and Coco 2nd. Callaspo was hitting well in the 7th slot and MR BRILLIANT moves him to the top of the order and he immediatley starts sucking. If its not broke don’t fix it. Moving Billy to the 3rd slot is a good move, but why bump Teahen all the way to 6th or 7th??? Jacobs was hitting well in the 7th spot and cannot hit at all in the 4th, 5th slot.
Hillman is as much of a moron as Dayton Moron. He tinkers with his lineup WAY TOO MUCH….
Try this:
Dejesus
Coco
Teahen
Butler
Guillen
Callaspo
Jacobs
Olivo
Bloomquist
Bloomquist was doing ok at SS., Isn’t thats why we signed him – to back up 2nd and SS???
Why is Pena EVER in the game, and Luis Hernandez, Tug Sucklet should be banished from the Minor leagues…..
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
I don't get the Tug hate
His minor league numbers are positively Ruthian compared to Pena, Hernandez or Bloomquist. And its not like he has any MLB numbers we can really go on.
He's like whatever...we can't use him that's the point. If he can play SS sure
Our two best hitters so far with the highest OPS are Teahen and Callaspo. And they were both our 2nd basemen to start the year. What do we do when Gordon comes back. Can he play SS??
I don’t know anything about Hulett…that error he made when he couldn’t even release the ball is all I need to see. Maybe he thought plays like that will allow him to stay in KC. It’s like its cool to fuck up now….
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
YOU NEVER LET FACTS AND STATISTICS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD RANT!!!!11!!!
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 4, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that wasn't directed at me Sweep - your one of my favorites on the board
BTW Baseball Prospectus and Bill James are a joke when it comes to defensive rankings.
Coco Crisp is an absolute joke in CF. He throws like a retarted eight grade girl. When you see players like Jason Giambi look back, watch Coco catch ball and advance to third on a pretty short fly out you cannot give him a positive defensive rankings…. You can count at least 10 instances when runners advanced because of Coco’s weak arm….
Coco isn’t our best player, although I think his .344 OBP is ok…defensively he’s a scrub, regardless how good his range is (and he still makes errors in CF)
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Outfield range is significantly more important than arm strength
Coco leads the majors in centerfield range at +7.8 runs (RngR). Even with his lousy arm, he is still one of the best defensive centerfielders in the league at +2.9 runs (UZR).
In other words, what is more important? A centerfielder making an out but allowing the runner on 2B to move up 90 feet? Or a centerfielder missing a catch that leads to a double, which allows the runner on 2B to score, puts a new runner on 2B, and does not give the team an out?
BTW who cited Baseball Prospectus or Bill James? If you are going to rail against a defensive ranking, at least rail against the right one.
So, in today's news:
Soria left after throwing 13 pitches because of a pitch count thing. I shudder to think what would’ve happened if it had been a save situation.
And TPJs experiencing soreness in his hand from being brought back too quickly after surgery.
Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like those are both pretty good examples of what minor league rehab assignments are for. They wanted Soria at full strength when he came back, but he’s still on a pitch count (13 last night).
Plus, was there really a rush to get TPJ back to the roster?
Perspective?
Before game one, there were a lot of sub-80 win projections. Our offense was built to be exactly what it it—the most streaky, feast (okay, feast is a strong word)-or-famine offense in the league—what do you expect when Guillen and Jacobs are the “firepower” in the offense? The infield offense was expected to be really bad, and it is. Spots 4 and 5 in the rotation were question marks, and still are. The “anybody can build a good bullpen anytime” thing didn’t work out, but, other than Soria and Cruz, did we think it was going to be that good? Davies is disappointing only because of hope (which turned out to be false) that he had worked out his overthinking issues (it’s got to be overthinking which turns every 0-2 count into a 3-2 count). Add in the injuries (or “injury” in at least one of these cases) to Gordon, Soria, and Aviles, and the slow start by DDJ, and this team is (at least) exactly what you’d expect to be.
The good start was fun, but it was an illusion that created a false expectation. This current level of suck is also not reality—24 guys who made it to the major leagues (most of which are actually qualified to be major leaguers) all can’t actually be this bad (only Zack gets a pass). I expect a couple of relatively good streaks, probably another horrendoulsy bad one, and a team fighting for .500 in September—just about what I expected at the end of March.
Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I think for the most part your correcft
Davies has been better than was expected. You do realize Horam is responsible for his ERA being 5.20 instead of 4.60 because he gave up hits IN HIS LAST TWO OUTINGS and the runs were earned by davies. He wants to kill him.
Its simple, Aviles isn’t hurt, he just has no plate discipline and it caught up to him. Jacobs & Guillen can be ok players but not in the middle of the lineup. Guillen shoudl be hitting 6th and Jacobs 7th.
Soria, Tejada and Gordon being hurt has really hurt us…..Gordon could be hitting around .270 with a .360 ERA and 6,7 homeruns and steals….Soria would allow Cruz, Mahay, Tejada (our best 3 relievers) to pitch in most close games in the 7th, 8th innings.
And lastly, Hillman’s use of Horacio Ramirez/Ponson EVER, Farsnworth/Mahay (in the beginning of the year when they botch clearly sucked) and his ridiculous lineup changes (moving Callaspo up in the order when he’s hitting well, batting Jacobs before 6th, putting TPJ in the lineup, changing Dejesus/Teahen’s batting orders frequently, etc) have just been pathetic
by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
On the topic of "what can they do?"
Kila appears to be the only promotable hitter in Omaha, with B Pena probably holding 2nd on that list before he was promoted. Unfortunately, Kila is at a position where we arguably least need help, as Butler is a 23 year old seemingly improving every year. Jacobs could be traded to make room for him, I suppose.
Olivo or Buck could be traded once Buck is healthy again to make room for B Pena.
None of these moves would be likely to yield very much in return.
Anybody have an opinion about Jordan Parraz, NW Ark OF who is hitting damn well? He was a former relatively high draft pick of HTN, and might just be a late bloomer this year. Not saying he is ready for a callup, but would expect promotion to AAA soon. I believe he is still relatively young (22 or 23?); have no clue if he is a good defender or not, which is more of an issue with our large OF than it would be for another org.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Parraz
is 24 and has hit pretty well for about three years, but has been going slow up the ladder. He was drafted in 2004 and played three short-seasons, and then low A in 2007 and high A in 2008. This is his first season in AA, and, if he really is this good (.351/.455/.487/.942 this year, .289/.399/.419/.818 last year), he’ll probably stay there the season, as he would be an actual prospect and would fit into the “full year at each level” philosophy.
Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Parraz should be moved up to AAA now
That batting line deserves a call up at 150-200 ABs. He has 154.
Also, Suomi is doing a pretty good job with the bat at catcher, .329/.414/.647. He could be moved up too if we can get rid of Buck or Olivo and play B Pena.
it is a beautiful day in Omaha - clear skies, 70 degrees
I choose to be optimistic today. I agree with CentralChamps2009 (although not with his name implications). I think once we get some of the DL’ers back, things will modify, never getting great, but better than they are playing now.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
When I picked the name in 2006
It seemed far enough away to allow for unbridled hope. I’ll try to figure out how to change it to CentralChamps2012 later.
Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.
by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think either 2011 or 2014 is the year for us
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I will go ahead and book the West Bottoms for 2010-2016...
just in case.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 4, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rotten cherry pickin
We had a similar stretch about the same time last year. From May 17 – June 11, the Royals were 5-20. Does our offense just hit the “wall” at this point of the year?
BTW, is there anywhere that shows how many hits our pitchers give up to each portion of the field (left, center, and right)? It might be my imagination, but it seems like we give up a lot of hits to right field. It almost as if opposing teams know something about our defenders on that side………….
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