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The Misery Continues for the Royals

A shaky bullpen and an impotent offense doom the Royals yet again.

Jamey Wright has a nice run at the beginning of this season, and when Farnsworth imploded and the team wasn't sure about Mahay, he was wright there (har har). Since April 30th however, prior to today's game he's posted a 5.52 ERA, and the last seventy batters he's faced are hitting .377/.449/.508 against him.

Kyle Farnsworth is a better option right now. Yes, I went there.

The Royals lost a 3-2 game today without using Joakim Soria or Juan Cruz. Or Ron Mahay for that matter.

Other lowlights:

  • The Royals did not draw a walk today and leave Tampa with only one in the series, drawn by the exiled David DeJesus. DeJesus hit eighth today, a further demotion from his long stint at seventh. Alberto Callaspo has literally not hit well for a month, yet he remains a trusted "Trey-guy". Ditto for St. Willie. If DeJesus goes 0-4 tomorrow, I fear for his life.
  • Another three strikeouts for Olivo. Honestly, what the man is doing up there is incredible. 42 strikeouts and just 2 walks in something like 120 PAs. His plate approach is so utterly horrible and psychotically dumb, that it is sublime. It's like watching a guy go up there after being told, "if you don't homer, I'm going to burn your house down" three times a game.
  • The horrifying thing is this: this is the team Dayton Moore wanted. He had three years to build the team however he wanted, and this is what he wanted. This is what he wanted. This is what he wanted. What I'm trying to say is, this collection of players was a grouping of talents that Dayton Moore desired. Man, Allard Baird was such a rube.
  • But hey, we have a Closer who pitches twice a week, 0-9 games included, of course. You can't match that scouting.

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I do appreciate

The different expressions of “first” during this dry spell. If you lose your sense of humor, all you’ve got is a really bad baseball team you devote too many of your hours of life to.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was my first farst. I wanted to do something special with it...

…but not at the expense of taking too long and blowing my op.

by Uscbalto on Jun 4, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We.

Suck.

Trey-Hillman-I'm-A-Dumbfuck-Giveaway-Counter: How do you make an infinity sign on the computer?

by KCsince88 on Jun 4, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think olivo just struck out again

where return of tpj is a cause of celebration happens!

by blue bandwagon on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some of you were right and I was DEAD FUCKING WRONG!

I thought anytime you can trade a relief pitcher for an everyday player you have to do it and I thought they were good trades.. Get some Power here and some speed and good defense from crisp.. Boy was I fucking wrong

Jacobs cant hit a lick and hasn’t hit a homer since 1937 and crisp has the worst arm I have ever witnessed in the MLB it is just pathetic.. He has lost the skill to draw walks now and is batting .230..

Im now completely disgusted with these moves

I can only imagine if this team were to spend money on lets say an Adam Dunn? Bobby Abreu? and put DeJesus in centerfield.. and leave Kila to the starting job.. those two moves with Leo Nunez and Ram Ram in the pen would be unbelievably better..

This is a putrid team who’s luck has obviously ran out..

I.Hate.This.Team

Sincerly -Disgruntled and Disgusted Royals Fan

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To lose the skill to draw walks

You had to have it at one point

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was just getting lucky

Focs you hit the nail on the head…

I woudl love to have Dunn in LF and Ram Ram and Nunez in the pen….we’d be above .500 and that is a fact!

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is so infuriating

to watch our bullpen pitch so poorly when they were so lights out last year

by XBic on Jun 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dayton Moore

Completely depleted it.. COMPLETELY

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you have just one Starting Pitcher

That is consistently giving your bullpen rest, ANY bullpen is going to struggle. I don’t care who is down there.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look we all got excited by the first month but the harsh truth is

this is the same disappointing group of losers it’s always been. The same team that gives away heartbreaking game after game vacillating between blowout losses and come from behind losses. It is what it is. It’s a franchise that has a major culture of losing deeply ingrained to its soul. It’s the same franchise that allowed Baird to stay GM year after year when he was clearly about as competent as a piece of baklava.

Things will not change soon, it is what it is. This franchise from the top with its cheap dick owner to its know nothing manager and piss poor players is doomed. Yes, doomed.

Long live optimism!

by Uscbalto on Jun 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you badmouth Baklava!

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Farnsworth

Is clearly a better option than Wright at this point. It really isn’t even close.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Letting them hit off a tee

Is a better option than Wright at this point.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow night

Greinke throws 13 innings of shutout baseball (of course our offense will not score) and loses on a should-have-been-caught triple over Guillen’s head and a passed ball by Olivo

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does DM still have the

“ability to pick up quality bullpen arms on the cheap” moniker that I’ve heard ad nauseum for the past year and a half?

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the cheap part he forgot

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

but I think he’s always been over-rated in that regard

by royalsreview on Jun 4, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really would like to see

how many games Hillman has cost the team because of bringing in clearly inferior options, like today. no guarantees that anybody else gets it done either, but who knows, man just fuck it, it really doesn’t matter what happens we are just going to lose no matter what.

100 losses, anyone?

I hereby resign from this post.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

putting in inferior option A or inferior option B or inferior option C

He’s only got certain options to choose from, and minus Soria (but at the point who really knows) they are all inferior bullpen options

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bye all

Sorry, Its time for me to root for the Cardinals

by BlueBloodRoyal on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh that's just not cool

But if you feel that way, good riddance. We didn’t want you anyways. I have enough stupid bandwagoners to deal with on the east coast here myself

by sterlingice on Jun 5, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SportsCenter

Jeremy Affeldt and Mike MacDougal both pitching in the SF-WAS game currently. SF up 2-1. Which former Royals stud will break first and either blow or insure Randy Johnson’s 300th win?

Trey-Hillman-I'm-A-Dumbfuck-Giveaway-Counter: How do you make an infinity sign on the computer?

by KCsince88 on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Affeldt" and "blow[s]" go together well

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much like J.P. Howell

Affeldt has turned into a very good reliever since leaving the Royals . . . and was available the last offseason on a cheaper deal than Farnsworth.

by Gopherballs on Jun 4, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually went to the game yesterday

and waited from about 6:30 pm to 10:45 pm. Just to have it rained out.

I now have a $50 NATS TICKET. That is worth nothing.

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Jun 4, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't raincheck it for another game?

The Royals let you turn in any rained out game for a similar ticket to another game, not necessarily the makeup game.

by AxDxMx on Jun 4, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As he said, "That is worth nothing."

Trey-Hillman-I'm-A-Dumbfuck-Giveaway-Counter: How do you make an infinity sign on the computer?

by KCsince88 on Jun 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whatever

Go see Johan Santana pitch. Go see the Nats lose.

by AxDxMx on Jun 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Affeldt will get a blister after an inning

which leaves MacDougal to walk the bases loaded and then either serve up a moonshot or throw the next pitch up on the screen.

by stram#1 on Jun 4, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which leads me to ask...

when does GMDM trade to get one of those guys back?

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't play the game the right way

Like Jamey Wright, Farnsworth, TPJ, HoRam, Jacobs, JoGui, et al.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hillman is lying through is fucking teeth...

First he says Soria available, then during the post game said he was never going to pitch back to back.

Its amazing how he isn’t throwing anybody under the bus when he makes the mistakes… Fucking ASSHAT!!!

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't want to tip off the other team

Cause they’ll be so confused when an inferior pitcher comes on in relief that they’ll forget how to hit.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you guys talking about

I would love to have both them over Horam and Wright

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its horseshit...

i keep trying to defend this team, and I absolutely loved the signing of Trey when it happened, should have realized it was a pipe dream when the Yankees had absolutely zero interest in signing him to be their coach

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, if he wasn't going to pitch back to back,

what the hell was doing throwing yesterday?

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Jun 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to listen to this game from the Tampa Bay announcers...

And they kept saying things like “Now, why wouldnt you put Dejesus as the leadoff man? I guess Hillman has his reasons, doesnt make sense to us”

-And “Now, why wouldnt you pull Coco Crisp out of the game, hes obviously hurting? I guess Hillman has his reasons, doesnt make sense to us”

- And -And “Now, why wouldnt you put Soria in in this situation instead of Wright? I guess Hillman has his reasons, doesnt make sense to us”

The verdict? Hillman has NO FUCKING CLUE what he is doing!

by Murrman1984 on Jun 4, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Petro

asked Hillman the DDJ question today. His answer was long, full of words, and didn’t make a lot of sense when it was done.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think DDJ is gone

neither trey nor DM think much of hiim I’m afraid

by royalsreview on Jun 4, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good thing we traded him when he stock was high...

oh shit.

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's soft! :P

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get that at all

I understand when the fans turn on Mike Sweeney for being the only guy who stayed- I mean, it’s mainly because they’re the stupid ones ruled by a mob mentality who just don’t get it. But a manager and GM dumping on a player- I don’t get it.

by sterlingice on Jun 5, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at this point...davey definitely deserves to be dumped on....

two months in, he sucks at the plate, he sucks in the field, and he sucks on the bases. Maybe he should try earning that leadoff spot. Right now, he’s an 8 hitter.

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Jun 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the Hillman, man. His ancestors were keepers of the hill.

You need a guy to watch a Hill and his family were the first people you went to get. That’s ALL you need to know.

by Uscbalto on Jun 4, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm at the point now where i don't know how to root for this team

I was a huge mets fan (even more than the Royals) a few years ago but they ripped my heart out when they Willie fuckolph kept on pitching Aaron Helman in critical situations. He then gave up the series clinching homerun to Yadier Molina in the National Championship series.

THe Mets have made me much less of a fan with their epic collapses the past 2 years….

I want the players to succeed but I can’t root for players like Coco and Jacobs and Horam and Jamey Wright…two players that don’t deserve to play professional baseball – they should be waiting tables

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that explains so much

by benfunke on Jun 4, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah you should understand

why you can root for them? its sad

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what really pisses me off...

I was really excited to post this pic with some clever… “This guy approves” but no… WHY GOD DO YOU SMITE US!!!

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No offense but I like my pic better...

Especially when I had text to it…

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jun 4, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is a beastly stache

what’s the hadded text?

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pn the Bright Side

Fox Sports KC is replaying the game, so we can relive that epic Billy Butler double in about an hour

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Possibly in August

I could see Moore going fire sale—not of anybody he acquired, but the remainders of his inherited players—Teahen, Buck, DDJ, Butler—blaming the struggles (as he essentially did las August) on their lack of professionalism.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think BUtler would be one to go

I think he has impressed the hell out of the organization by his work ethic in the offseason and his improvement at 1B.

Not to mention the guy is only 23 years old.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize i am in the minority but ill continue to say it

til this abortion of a team proves me wrong or at least has a freakin’ pulse. THIS TEAM WILL LOSE 100 games. I know its a weak divsion. I dont care. If you at our record vs. the division its 13-14. Doesnt sound that bad huh. However, remember the magical start we had, well its history. When we pitch, we dont hit. When dont pitch, we dont hit. When we pitch, we dont play d, we dont hit. There is no combination thats been working. The lineup is terrible. Crisp is really pissing me off. Callaspo, like i said all along, will be under .300 by the end of the year if he didnt go under today. The bullpen is in shambles. The trades of Nunez and Ramirez make us look like a joke organization right now. We got an imaptient, aging lead off hitter and a guy that couldnt hit a pre pubescent kid thats left handed. I mean as some of you have said, maybe you just have to laugh and say to yourself, “Why do i care? Why do i root for the royals? They stunk in the past, they stink now, and will prob stink in the future.” Im just mad at myself that i actually believed this year they had a chance. We keep losing and nothing is being shaken up. No moves. No nothing. This is a team thats drowning and the organization is watching, laughing with a beer in hand. Pathetic.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the funniest part its so bad right now and certain baseball basics are just not being followed from a managerial standpoint

Why is Dejesus not leading off and batting 8th?
Why is Crisp playing and if he is, not batting 9th?
Why do Horam or Jamey Wright have to pitch in every game?
Why is Jacobs and Guillen batting back to back and in the 4th/5th slots?
Why is Callaspo batting 2nd when he has proven he can’t hit in that spot?
Why is Cruz, Soria and Farnsworth not used in critical situations?
Why is Bryan Pena not playing for Miguel “i strike out every at bat and allow 3 past balls a game” Olivo?
Why does Hillman have to make a managerial decision that backfires every game?

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"the organization is watching, laughing with a beer in hand."

I understand upset today, I understand the need to vent, but wow, that’s really out there. Unlike the collective “us,” the people who operate the Royals have livelihoods that actually do depend on the performance of the team, so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt that they care more just a little more than we do. Realistically, we’re not going to just cut people we collectively owe nearly $20M to (JoGui, Jacobs, and HoRam get up to around $17M, and I’d chuck em all if I could). I’d like to see some kind of shakeup, but to go to what? Dump a starter like Davies (who I’d personally like to be done with as a starter) and use who? Lenny DiNardo? What outfielders in the organization are being blocked by JoGui? Lubanski? Shane Costa? Who is out there that somebody is willing to give up that makes us so much better, and what do we have to offer for them? Institutional depth is growing, but none of it is there this year. For better or for worse (can it get worse?), these are the Royals, at least until the end of the July. So, just like the players, we dust ourselves off and show up again tomorrow night. What else can we do?

We’re Royals’ fans—you’d think we’d be used to it by now.

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 4, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Right now being a Royals fan is more than a little embarrassing.

I look at the Twins as a model of what this team could be and it makes me angry. The Twins have timely hitting, catch the damn ball when it comes to them, they work the count and draw walks. Their pitchers get ahead in the count consistently. They have young guys too but they hustle and Gardenhire tends to maximize what each player does best. The Royals are a rudderless ship. With all that being said I’m sure I’ll be back tomorrow ready to pound my head against the wall yet again. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result then both me and the Royals are a bunch of nuts.

by stram#1 on Jun 4, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I get it man i really do.

The saddest part about all of it is the players that arent performing that dont have heavy or detailed contracts about what the royals can do cant be replaced. The farm system might as well just be a barn because outside of KILA (ready, but plays position where we dont need him) and B PENA who is riding the pine behind Miguel “K” Olivo. So youre right there is nowhere to go. The sad of the sad brotha. Lastly, please understand the difference in venting and whats actuality. I appreciate what you said and i agree with it. This was meant to bring laughs, not reprimands. And yes I am “used to it now” but that doesnt make me feel any better. My tolerance for alcohol has grown this season, but not so much for tolerating royals flops and failures. :)

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insert Kila now

I don’t know, maybe his .433 fuckign OBP and the fact he is leading the Pac League with 47 walks (and the next guy is Esteban German with 36)

Designate Jacobs for assignment and promote Kila….he seems like a nice guy but its a business, and Jacobs is not performing

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many teams DFA their leading HR hitter?

Jacobs has been cold lately. But you’re a fucking moron who would cost the team someone who actually hits for power.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Counting stats, yay.

Jacobs doesn’t need to be DFA’d. He needs to never be let near a glove, and never face a lefty and he’ll contribute.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+11111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo watch your mouth before you get your ass banned

I don’t maybe the TEAM THAT ORIGINALLY GOT RID OF HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE THE MARLINS!!!!

But they went all the way to the bank with a solid reliever to boot

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was not DFA'd. He was traded straight up.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct. But given the bullpen woes and Jacobs being a limited player with power

and a terrible BA and OBP Im not so sure it was a good trade at all.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me neither

but it’s important to make the distinction.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there's a difference between DFAing and trading

you’re wanting to give him away for nothing.

As for my mouth. My apologies for correctly describing you.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

a bit off base

I was a big proponent of the Jacobs trade for his potential to become a better player, he has failed

I think you need to learn a little about his worth before pitching in and sounding like a idiot….I raved about Guillen’s prowess last year with his 20 HR’s and 97 RBI’s but in truth they mean little…..

you will get ripped to shreds arguing that Jacobs is one of our best players

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

He has failed?
The season’s over already?

Find some other internet toughguys and you all can act like you give a damn about your chestpuffing. Junior.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really dont think that was intent and bare in mind

the comment “My apologies for describing you” was interesting. While it isnt internet chest bumping it is a little hostile. Dont ya think? To me it sounded similar to what our mothers told us, “Sticks and stones will break our bones but words will never hurt me”. Its pretty obvious that Jacobs is cold as ice, just as it is obvious the season isnt over. Cool the jets buddy. Just trying to vent a little

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't get the quote right

you left out the word correctly.

Gobbler is the one who sounds like he’d tattle to mods when he figures out who they are.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Phil is clearly mildly upset.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Have A

Way with words.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Hall of Fame-style way!

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jun 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not quite buddy... im more the veteran asshole on the board

who was very close to toeing the line of banhood…..

Yes, you threw the “I’m a moron” statement out first and the even better, “I apologize for being right about it”

This is over Mike Jacobs of all shitty hitters. Its Ironic that I defended the shit out of him after getting HAMMERED on this board about how I thought he woudl be a great addition since we needed the power.

All I heard was he is an OBP sieve and the biggest defensive liability in MLB

I’ll admit I was wrong, and its funny you can’t see the light yet

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DDJ prediction

He won’t be a regular major league starter within 2 years of leaving the Royals.

With the love of OBP, I’m surprised there’s still a push for having DeJesus (OBP below 300) batting leadoff over Crisp (OBP in the .340s). DeJesus would need to raise his BA by 50 points to put up an OBP close to Crisp’s.

Teahen and DDJ are the poster boys for take it easy aimless baseball.

And DDJ is 29, advancing on 30. He’ll be out of the majors by the time he’s 35.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DDJ's slow start usually ends by now

remember 2007 DDJ? he’s back.

Crisp is at 98 in OPS+, DDJ is at 76

Crisp actually draws more walks than strikeouts. DDJ has almost 3 Ks for every walk.

BUT WE MUST MAKE THE SMIRK A LEADOFF MAN

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Crisp is dropping back to earth at terminal velocity

as far as walks go. He fluked out, and is regressing back to normal.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 BB/6 K from 5/8 to today

beats the 6 BB/17 K showing from DDJ.

I’m sure BBRef notes how many times DDJ k’s looking too

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DDJ

in 2007, a down year, had a better OBP than any single year of Coco’s career.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

five seasons of 100+ OPS+ between them

Crisp: 117 (2005), 110 (2004)
DeJesus: 119 (2008), 114 (2005), 108 (2006)

Crisp isn’t pre-2009 Juan Pierre

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your OPS+ citing here

is a cherrypick. Are we talking about who’s the better player? Because historically, it’s definitely been DDJ.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I used to use EQA more, but wOBA has definitely surpassed the BP stats. Overall, WAR for who’s the more valuable player. OPS+ is good for a quick reference but not very lending to real analysis.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the sake of reference

DDJ’s wOBA is .292 right now, Crisp’s is .339 (and above Billy Butler’s for some surprising reason)

But how much can I trust a stat that says Willie Bloomquist is the second best hitter on the team overall? that applies for all of reality until Wee Willie’s crappy PAs outnumber his good ones by 3 to 1 or so.

(I’m gonna guess the league comparison stats are not workable over the downturn [post-May 7th] era right now)

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a case of small sample size

And you have to expect Bloomquist to come back to earth. I mean, Willie having a good OPS doesn’t suddenly make you think he’s good, right? Same idea with wOBA.

And yes, I know DDJ has hit poorly this year.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willie would need to work with BALCO labs to become a good hitter

and even then, it’d last for 3 months or so.

The sad thing is that Bloomquist won’t lose playing time until he does a TPJ and someone does an Aviles.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Crisp was playing well before he came crashing down most of May

His overall stats look somewhat ok (when you don’t factor in his HORRIBLE arm and how many runs it costs us) but his OBP has been in a gradual decline for three weeks…his OBP was .382 in the beginning of the Oakland series (which is great!)

and it stands at .337 now

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To expand

Teahen and DDJ are both guys who seem to be the exact same if the team is winning or in a 15 game losing streak and they’re both come off as being soft players.

DDJ better improve his hitting before his annual injury.

Teahen has had an OBP below .300 since May 8th with 25Ks and 4 walks over that time. You know it’s bad for Teahen when the announcers are openly questioning his hitting approach.

If he puts up an OPS+ above 91 this year, it’ll end that slide he has been on since 2006. And it would be nice for his best year to be when he was 27 or 28, and not when he was 24.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coco's OPS was .621 in May

Even Gathright was better than that

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're blaming two guys

who aren’t even close to being the problem. No, DDJ hasn’t got his bat going this season. His track record and his LD% suggest he will, though. And it doesn’t matter what you think of his competitive fire or lack thereof – that has no bearing on anything. Same with Teahen – he hit better than his triple slashes indicated last year and he has and above average OBP this year while playing acceptable defense at multiple positions. There’s nothing lazy about either of these guys, in my opinion. I’d think it was pretty effing dumb if they started acting out when the team was losing.

Teahen’s on a cold streak since May 8th? Jeez man, EVERYONE has cold streaks. That’s a pretty abitrary date to set anyway.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not arbitrary

May 8th was the first game of the Anaheim series, and the beginning of the team slide.

Mark Teahen is more of a frustration than a problem. Because he SHOULD be hitting much better, but he has regressed every year since 2006 and he doesn’t seem to be doing much to get better.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's been good this year

man i hated the guy last year, but he’s been a good player, starting off at 2nd and filling in at 3rd…

he’s got 36 points on Jacobs in OBP and actually plays defense…why you touting Jacobs??

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

L2R

I’ve been saying Jacobs is cold.

But give both of them 500 PAs, and Jacobs will hit better than Teahen.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be a lot closer than you think

due to the fact that Teahen can actually get on base. And that’s without bringing up defense.

Teahen > Jacobs, not that either one is ideal for the Royals.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it comes to individual player evaluation,

that is pretty arbitrary.

Teahen’s hitting right around the level one should expect from a guy who’s a little short on power but still works the count well. And once again, there are literally ten other guys on this team that deserve blame before we even bring Teahen up.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand either

yes Coco and Jacobs were doing ok before two weeks ago but have both contributed to this losing streak more than any player on our team…they have been HORRIFIC meanwhile two of our best relievers have been traded for them as our bullpen IMPLODES

thats the point

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade Moustakas or Hosmer for someone who can play NOW and help us NOW

maybe package them with Guillen/Jacobs/Coco….

Why didn’t we draft….

Oh fuck it. Just get rid of our dead weight: Guillen, Jacobs, Wright, Horam, Olivo, Pena Jr,

Its not like AViles and Gordon are going to come back and we are goign to magically hit

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No

That would be incredibly dumb. This team isn’t going to be in contention this year and almost certainly next. So to trade away our two blue chips would be a complete waste of time and completely destructive.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 4, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way

the minor league system is finally starting to get some talent in it against once Baird gutted it for a handful of magic beans. In a couple of years the system will have enough warm bodies in it to entertain the notion of trading but not right now. If anything we should trade people FOR prospects.

by stram#1 on Jun 4, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm saying trade one of them not for a good/star major league player

For someone like Nate Mclouth who is still in his arbitration years (he is on a 3 year 15 million dollar contract)

You do understand by the time Moustakas and Hosmer become star players Meche, Greinke, Butler and Gordon WILL ALL BE GONE!

I would love to have Mclouth and Doumit for Moustakas/Rosa/Dejesus

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if everyone.....

who was doing good is now regressing back to normal, how in the hell are the regressed players going to help out the now regressing

kinda like the blind leading the blind

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 4, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed and it seems with a shitty farm system thats the product all of us

crazy bastards get to watch and talk about the rest of the year. WEEEEEEE

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As for Juan Cruz

7 walks, 4 strikeouts in 9 1/3 innings pitched since May 8th

to be fair, he managed to not walk a batter in 3 of 9 appearances over that time.

Get over your mancrushes. Juan is Leo Nunez with 10 pounds, a few years, and less control.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And a much better strikeout rate,

and a history of actually pitching more than 50 innings a year. Other than that, spot on.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The dissapearance of his K's this year

really concerns me. That is his schtick. Without that he is pretty limited. And they have dried up.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not too worried

given that it’s only a 22 inning sample. Barring injury, he’ll come round.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

without looking

tell me how old Juan Cruz is

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's 29?

That’s off the top of my head, as per your request.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 30

but you’re within range here.

People talk about Cruz like he’s 26 or 27.

When you’re 30, slumps are more likely to become declines.

But knowing this team.. Cruz is hurt.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a bit of a late bloomer

With his stuff, I do think he’ll come round barring serious injury.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is

Cruz and Dejesus have a good track record the past two years

Jacobs and Wright don’t…who knows what the fuck will happen this year but I’m more optimistic on the former

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

And by the way, I am sorry if I got on you a bit in the game thread. The negativity got to me a bit.

I get fans being upset. I get a little frustrated when the ire spreads to players who are really aren’t part of the problem usually.

Jacobs can only really be a plus without a glove and without PAs against lefties. Wright is another mop-up man.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah its fine....the pessimism on this board can get out of hand

I finally flipped today…i tried to defene Dayton Moron’s acquisitions in the off season and Hillman’s managerial decisions the first two months of the year…

but they both have been awful at best

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamey Wright has given up 8 runs, 12 hits in his last 5 innings

Cruz has been much better and hell Farny hasn’t given up a run in his last 10 outtings…

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not defending Jamey

but Cruz hasn’t really done anything except suck in the last month

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wright has given up twice as many hits as Cruz

and he had that famous chuck into the outfield that cost the Royals another win.

Yes, Cruz hasn’t been great, bit we probably would have won the game if he pitched

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

say what you will about Jacobs

at least he sounds like he cares about winning games.

Can’t say that about DeJesus, Guillen, Teahen, etc, etc, etc

9 HR, 25 RBI, 9 doubles, 103 OPS+… or 21 K/13 BB in 26 2/3 IP

If you really think the second is decisively more valuable than the first, invite me to your fantasy league.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you make a fanpost about that I bet you 90% of this board would want Nunez back

I understand why…Jacobs has had ONE clutch HR ALL YEAR (the comeback against Cleveland)

I liked him alot more when he was hitting .270 and his OBP was .340 – that is respectable, but I can see why Florida was dying to get rid of him and my Mets jettisoned him a heart beat.

What does fantasy have to do with winning games….As a DH its pathetic when your OBP is below .300 and thats what Jacobs will be in 2 games.

We have a much better player in Kila waiting in the wings with a .433 OBP and leading the pac league in walks…

No question 90% of this board woudl rather have Nunez and Kila than Jacobs and ??

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one is allowed to demand "we want Farnsworth to pitch"

in a high leverage situation until he actually does it successfully. Hindsight and wishing are great, but can you imagine what the reaction would have been if Farnsworth came out for the 8th? And then if he gave up 2 runs? We would have gone berzerk (sp?).

So when Wright comes in—granted, not a great choice—the criticism CANNOT be “we want Farnsworth”. We do not want Farnsworth, not in high-leverage, at least not until he shows us otherwise.

by benfunke on Jun 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Um BHwick is right

what are you talking about what else can Farnsworth do go another month without giving up ANY earned runs…he’s been our second best pitcher (other than Grienke in the month of May)

Its time for us to get our money’s worth

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way has Farnsworth been second best at anything

He’s a short reliever pitching mop-up innings relatively well after flopping to start the year.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not saying don't pitch him there,

just don’t ASK for him to pitch there. or as the attitude seems, “Oh how I wish we had Farnsworth pitching instead of Wright in this high-leverage situation”.

I’d go for something more like, “Oh great, here comes Farnsworth in the 8th…let’s hope he doesn’t screw up again”.

by benfunke on Jun 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Farnsworth is an overpaid mop-up man, recent good streak or no. It should’ve been Cruz-Soria.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Say I

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 4, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have but one question

How can he be successful/unsuccessful in a high leverage situation without being in one? Look i dont like him at all. But you saying noone can demand “we want farnsy to pitch……..” doesnt make any sense. He would prob fail in a high leverage situation but you dont know that unitl he gets another opportunity. The bullpen is terrible. If you would rather run HoRam out there every game like Hillman does thats fine, highly ignorant, but fine. At some point we have to use the arms(shitty arms mostly) out there instead of being afraid or whatever. If you continue to use the same guys over and over you re gonna fail anyway. Hillman needs to spread the wealth (AKA poverty) between the guys available. If the guys we re throwing fail whats the reason for not giving another idiot out of the pen a shot. Soria/Cruz shouldve been in today. But in situations in the future more variety should be used with the bullpen IMO.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the point is that

Hillman should be pitching Cruz/Soria over all the other guys anyway, and today he brought in Wright for some reason. Farnsworth appearing would’ve be equally second-guessable.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

My point was in situations in the future (not todays but situations where we re winning and the starter doesnt go into the seventh) we must consider someone other than HoRam and Jamie Wright, thats all i was saying. Today you re correct with soria/cruz as i mentioned above.

by 2LegittoShit on Jun 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man i mentioned that 10 minutes before Wright blew the game

Jamey Wright!

WHY WHY WHY!!!!!

What the fuck happened to Juan Cruz???

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fricking interactive ads

what the hell is this crap? I’m going to need to put my headphones in the jack now

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

of course you can't pitch Cruz in the 8th

he’s pitching in the 9th (Hillman said that). If you pitch a reliever over two innings, his rotator cuff explodes and the terrorists win.

Still not defending Jamey. He’d be stocking groceries if he was 5 inches shorter.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed

I think Cruz was set for the 9th

That .leaves Mahay and Farnsworth…i think Hillman is second guessing himself and thinking he should have put Farnsworth in.

He was acquired to be a setup man and Wright was a non roster invitee to camp…

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

he said he was bringing Cruz in for the 9th. Since Soria was exhausted by throwing 12 pitches in a 9-0 loss.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Soria is still hurt

Why would he be taken out in the middle of an inning yesterday and then we have the series of events that pointed to Cruz being the closer today if we had kept the lead.

by Olentangy on Jun 4, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and it'll be easier to blame it on the WBC

and not on our inept training staff and inept management.

by BHWick on Jun 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm out mad props for calling me moron

keep it up, we could stand to have more wise asses on this board. It’s a bit dry sometimes on here. Don’t go crazy and start calling out every dumb comment you see – save that for ESPN.

Peace

And you’ll regret the Jacobs love…he’s garbage its official. Unless he blasts like 4 homeruns in the next 7 games fuck him

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 4, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why blame Trey?

Look at the 25 man roster currently. Castoffs and utility players are everywhere obviously he could make a couple less mistakes but it doesn’t matter. Positionally there isn’t one playoff caliber starter on the roster. Until the team has at least one positional all star starter it just doesn’t matter.

Schaum and Ford said it perfectly after the game. If the team is unsure Soria can’t go two games in a row then why not have him pitch a couple rehab games so they know as opposed to just guessin. Yes it wouldn’t have changed anything for this game except to take a little heat off Trey for using him in a meaningless game not knowing when Soria will be able to pitch in a meaningful situation.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Jun 4, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You are a voice of reason

That is frowned upon around here.

Any post in this thread that doesn’t resort to something extreme (or retarded) should be banned from being viewed for fear of spreading anything other than doomsday thoughts RE: our Royals.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No he couldn't

Billy is my favorite Royal but he is not a starting 1b on most teams let alone a playoff caliber one, which is what I said.

This will probably sound dumb but GMDM needs to hire Frank White as the manager and give him a 10 year deal. The Twins had Kelly and Gardenhire guys that are helping hands in everything in the organization. Kelly would call out minor leaguers for underperforming during ST and the minor leaguers knew they had to walk right because it was more likely that he would be in the majors than they were in a couple years. Would this change things greatly? I don’t know but having a Royal hall of famer that was there as a fixture teaching these young guys(minor leaguers) that fundamentals matter and will play a part in them making it to the majors and playing everyday just seems like it would help to me. Every manager is gonna make mistakes, LaRussa, Soscia, etc all do but there job security might help the situation and seems to effect the minor league system and their players ability in the majors. I can’t imagine that KC’s system was just baren of guys who can field, learn patience at the plate, etc. something isn’t getting taught to me.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Jun 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wanted to see Frank make Mgr one day too...

But after listening to him on the TV broadcasts all year, I think he is better suited to be a Coach than a Mgr. Granted, people have different demeanor’s on the field than off, but (and I mean this with no disrespect, I LOVE him in the booth) he sounds stoned half the time with his little giggles. I’m sure he would command some respect based on his Royals HOF’er status, but I can’t see that personality type leading a franchise. I CAN see that personality coach being a GREAT bench or Minor League coach however.

Give me a Manager that you are afraid might take your head off if you step out of line anyday. George has that type of demeanor. Lou Pinella has that type of demeanor.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Jun 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point about managerial stability

This is the Royals 41st season, and no manager has lasted until his 5th anniversary!

by jbrocato on Jun 6, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I posted a similar thought after yesterday's game

Soria and (shudder) TPJ should’ve been on an extended rehab assignment until they were both ready.

Instead, they rushed them up for the playoff push

Any guesses as to how many rehab games Gordon will get before coming back?

by Top Ramen on Jun 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly enough,

This is what happens when you put a bunch of washed up has-beens (Wright, HoRam, Ponson, Bale, Farnsworth) in a bullpen.

Add that to the fact that we have a 4th OF batting leadoff, a should-be-platooned lefty hitting cleanup, and a big fat hole at shortstop, and this is almost entirely expected. Yes, guys like Cruz, Mahay and Aviles have let us down more than we can even put into words, but were you really relying on them to punch our ticket to .500? Gordon and Soria have both been injured, but if Gordon had stayed and played his career average, would Teahen have gone on his hot stretch? Or for that matter, would Callapso have even gotten off the bench?

And how many save opportunities has this team even had since Soria got hurt? One? It sure feels like zero.

My point is, this team is and has always been genetically flawed. Our three big acquisitions in the offseason (Willie, Coco and Jacobs) all played far above career averages, and what we’re seeing now is all of that even itself out.

Final thoughts? Dayton Moore had a pathetic offseason, is fielding a team that on paper should finish about 15 games below .500, has regressed so much from last year’s bullpen-first team and yet will continue to receive a free pass from the soft KC media. Yes, Hillman makes a bad thing worse by misusing his terrible bullpen, but Dayton deserves the blunt of the blame for this.

/rant

- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes

by JobDDT on Jun 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Late to the party

but Ram-Ram + Nunez for 800k >>>>>>Coco and Jacobs for like $10 million

—said this when the moves were made…as did many others

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Offensive "improvement" under Moore

Runs scored
2006 – 757
2007 – 706
2008 – 691
2009 – 658 (projected)

by Top Ramen on Jun 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

is the pitching any better....

if you look at daytons guys?

Allard ‘sucked’ but most of our best players are his guys. Butler, Gordon, Greinke, Buck, Teahen, Davey. With a $20 millionish payroll bump, shouldnt some of Dayton’s guys be good? He’s lucked into a closer (via scout from the Baird days) and overpaid Meche (good deal in hindsight, but too much money at the time). What else does he have to show for his tenure? Two stud hitting prospects? I couldve drafted those guys. Melville? If you give Baird 10X the money in the 4th round he’d have gotten good prospects there too.

Can we fire everyone save Greinke and Soria and just be an expansion team? I’m willing to change our uniform and colors…and we have a new stadium like a new team does as well.

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes

where return of tpj is a cause of celebration happens!

by blue bandwagon on Jun 5, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off topic....

but i wish Randy Johnson wouldve regrown the mullet to celebrate this joyous occasion

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Jun 4, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No... going for your 300th win against the worst team in the NL isn't worthy of a mullet rebirth

booooo should have blown it on purpose and got against a real team Randy!

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some bad vibes on this site

it’s very obvious I avoid all the big discussion simply because I refuse to learn more about baseball. All I need to know is that the team is struggling majorly, bad desicions are being made by DM, Trey, Olivo, hell, most of the guys on the team. We have Greinke who hasn’t been getting run support he got in April. We have Soria who Trey refuses to play even though we might not be in a save situation for another week and a half and he could very well “save” us some games by pitching in pressure situations that aren’t in the 9th inning. We have Billy who is really starting to grow into a nice ballplayer both defensively and offensively, but I am convinced will get into his best form for another team, just like every other good player we’ve had in the past decade. Other than that what do we have? We have a line-up of starting pitchers which includes (other than Zack) 1: Gil, who gets up to 50 pitchs in the first 3 innings and can’t finish guys off worth a shit. 2: Davies, who would honestly work best as a bullpen guy right now. 3: Banny, who is just the streakiest pitcher I’ve ever seen. 4: Luke along with a bullpen that includes guys who are getting play time in the wrong time for being good A MONTH AGO. Obviously Trey can hear our views because now he’s been keeping Farnsworth out of tight situations, only now he’s gotten better and we’d LIKE TO SEE HIM PITCH THEM AGAIN. And finally there’s the offense which can be describe without stats: it’s bad. It’s very bad. Butler and Teahen can produce. Olivo, Jacobs and Guillen are streakier than a windshield covered with dead bugs. DDJ is getting old, but is still doing good stuff. Coco and Willie have dropped off the face of the Earth. Bert has a mandatory hit almost every game, but lately it’s been at the wrong time every time. So add all these up, subtract views like mine that say (when it starts you always have a 50% chance to win) and you have a blog filled with disgruntled, angry, pissy, shitpoor attitude users. We weren’t supposed to be good this year, so maybe that’s why I can still be sunny side up in this place, but after every loss, even though the words have been different, it’s been the same spiel with some thoughts on things we did bad in the game added to spice things up. And if we win the comments will still be based on things we did bad and who sucked more. And if we win 10 in a row and then lose 1 the mood will instantly change back to the we’ve lost 20 in a row mentality. I know I don’t have stats to back me up on things like this, but really there are not need when you can see it happen as it really happens. Feel free to point out anything I’ve said wrong because when I do rant like this (this is my first all season) I speak entirely from the gut and only the gut (and it always will be the gut) and may not speak from perspective of a guy’s WAR or whatever right.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I was ranting

I really wish you could edit your own comments.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't take long for me to take flack either. Record time

now I remember why I usually stay out of this type discussion

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems more negative than in year's past

However, I think that’s because the expectations were higher

(and the bandwagon slightly bigger and those people rarely contribute anything of substance- more of a football or basketball playoff “every game is life and death” mentality which if you use in baseball season would burn you out by about, oh, June 5th)

by sterlingice on Jun 5, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No its because we have good players this year and the best pitcher in MLB

I can’t believe how horrible Jacobs and Coco have become…they are awful

We could have kept Ram and Nunez and promoted Kila and his .433 OBP and we woudl have been a .500 team right now ATLEAST

Billly Butler destroyed the minor leagues for a little over a year and is out best hitter

Kila has done even more. THERE IS NOT REASON TO KEEP HIM THERE HE LEADS HIS LEAGUE IN WALKS BY 11 OVER THE NEXT GUY

Meanwhile we have a DH who has an OBP of .310

If you give Kila 150 AB’s as a Royal and he has a .350 OBP WITHOUT A DOUBT

by GobbleforCyoung on Jun 5, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to say something

I’ll bring the optimism back for Toronto. I just had to share my 2 cents with a not Enter-keyed rant. I’ll be happy again for the next game :)

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, its only a game

And its not even one we play.

Let’s all get a good night’s sleep and come back all refreshed tomorrow. The Royals haven’t been good against slumping teams they should beat, so maybe they’ll reverse course and take 2 of 3 against a team who should beat them. We’ve got Zack, and he’s due to play stopper. CG shutout time.

Unbridled irrational optimism rules!

Yeah, it was a stupid screen name.

by CentralChamps2009 on Jun 5, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That actually was kind of the case in April

On paper we should have won 1 against Toronto and won 3 of 4, ad proceeded to get swept by the Angels, who we thought we should have beat at least once, and the A’s, whom we should have swept. And the I think the Blue Jays can give us a Tabla Rasa to work with simply because our last series against them was so good.

Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.

by ratherfantastic on Jun 5, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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