Bobby Keppel's Revenge: Royals Lose Tough One Versus Twins
Yes, it was the old Scott Baker problem for the Royals, though tonight's game also featured a new angle: the conquering return of Bobby Keppel.
Keppel, a St. Louis product, appeared in eight games for the Royals in 2006, starting six games. The fact that he made six starts signals something unsavory about the state of the Kansas City staff that season, surely. However, Keppel, a failed first round pick with the Mets in 2000, wasn't completely terrible as a Royal either. Through his first 29 innings he still had an ERA around 3.60, before the bottom fell out a little in his last two appearances. He finished with a 5.50 ERA, and essentially revealed himself to be Brian Bannister without the mojo. Of course he's ended up a Twin, they've cornered the market on non-descript white guys with all-American names and generic profiles who find ways to be effective: Scott Baker, Glen Perkins, Nick Blackburn, etc etc. Reading Twins box scores is like stepping back into the world of Franklin W. Dixon.
Keppel had ended up in Minnesota's system, where he was playing alongside Justin Huber in Rochester. He'd only appeared once prior to tonight, but his scoreless 2.1 innings proved to be huge in a tight 2-1 game. Though he'd only thrown eight Major League innings since his random 2006 stint with the Royals, Keppel baffled his old team, and in so doing posted the second highest Twin-WPA of the game, behind Justin Morneau.
If I had to guess, I'd say that Keppel probably feels warmly towards Kansas City, as he picked up more per diem money there than anywhere else. Perhaps it was then a slightly bittersweet performance for him. Perhaps.
- Speaking of Brian Bannister, Banny had one of his better starts of the season: 7.0 IP, 6 Hs, 6 Ks, 1 BB, 1 ER. For whatever reason, Bannister invites all kinds of fetishism when it comes to the discussion of his game. First it was his braininess, with a dash of the father-son angle. A round of meta-sabermetic stuff followed. Then, there was the obsession with his day-night splits. I wonder what will be next?
- You can also add Bannister's comeback to the list of unexpected good things that have happened this season. The Royals haven't simply had a terrible string of injuries and bad luck. They've merely proven themselves to be, on balance, just a bad team overall.
- Is it just me or are the Royals particularly brutal offensively against the Twins? They had their chances tonight, and even drew 3 walks, which is a high number for a Royals-Twins game, but just couldn't get it done.
- I don't want to make too big of a deal out of it, but the David DeJesus pickoff was a moderately large moment in the game. Where would you set the odds on DDJ being traded at?
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Well that sucked
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 1, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
orioles came back to beat boston
after trailing 10-1
by royalsreview on Jul 1, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOM ROASTED!
To Sportscenter!
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 1, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times in Royals history
has a .100 hitter been PH for with a sub-.200 hitter, who was then PH for with a sub-.100 hitter?
by raefzilla on Jul 1, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Isn't once
too many times?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, it's the only time in baseball history
Who says the Royals aren’t a historic team?
by AxDxMx on Jul 1, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many more weeks until we can call Dayton by a more fitting name like
“Do Nothing Dayton”
TPJ and Luis Hernandez are both on the roster for some bizarre reason. The bullpen is shaky. There’s not much of any speed or situational hitting (which I recall being a big thing for Dayton when he came in). Not to mention that the manager can’t utilize what he has and lost the team around a year ago due to massive communication issues and the fact that this is this first time EVER in a big league setting.
When your manager is bland and uninspired, you get bland and uninspired baseball.
What punishment/correction is there for a DeJesus when he daydreams and gets picked off?
Say what you will about Mike Jacobs. I think Trey has made that whole thing worse with his blockheaded refusal to put Jacobs lower in the order. But at least Jacobs produced something tonight. Can’t say that for almost the rest of the team.
Fun note: The lineup optimizer’s worst run scoring lineups for KC all have DDJ batting lead off.
Their most productive batting order is…
1) Jose Guillen
2) Alberto Callaspo
3) Mike Jacobs
4) Billy Butler
5) Mark Teahen
6) David DeJesus
7) Willie Bloomquist
8) Miguel Olivo
9) Mitch Maier
which wouldn’t happen since the Mustache doesn’t want Jose to throw stuff.
Still suffering from the greatest robbery of all time: The stealing of the 1994 AL Central title from the Royals
by BHWick on Jul 1, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even better
the worst lineups also had Jacobs batting cleanup.
If the Blunder puts Mike in the cleanup spot tomorrow against a LHP.. then that’s yet another strike against Trey
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by BHWick on Jul 1, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...but davey is awesome....
and some people on here cannot understand why I and a select few others cannot stand him and think he is a big part of the problem.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's always smiling!
granted, he’s the best example of being a candyass on this team, and he should have been dealt sometime before he peaked.
In the spirit of the guy calling into 610, if DDJ returns to Centerfield, Iran will get nukes
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by BHWick on Jul 1, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about a big part of the problem,
but I think he can help be a solution as a trade piece. The way it looks, he won’t be around when the Royals are competitive anyway.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, why dont we just trade him now?
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should,
but we need to get something else back that isn’t a DDJ clone.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need to target a high ceiling hitter....
if he’s in A ball…so be it…thats where are only hitting prospects are anyway
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
less than half-year's stats= good enough analysis
I agree that DDJ should be “punished” for his baserunning error
but what are going to be the punishments for:
stirkeouts
groundouts
shitty pitching
bad range
bad throws
etc?
ANy parent will tell you you have to be consistent!
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mental mistakes and lack of effort are far more egregious....
errors than physical errors. Any high school coach will tell you that. Davey is a veteran and should be one of the leaders of this team. But he gets picked off, doesnt go hard after balls at the wall, etc far more often than the face of the franchise should, seemingly without repercussions. He’ll just go to the dugout and laugh it off.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
d'oh, I had a whole post here
then lost it
In short: you have to look at overall performance. Even during this, his worst offensive year since he became a regular, his defense makes him an average player (just above, actually) so far. Keep in mind he scored the only run (do we still only give credit to the RBI guy?) after a double. And, yeah, he got picked off (a problem he’s always had), but he was on-base, something that doesn’t happen often for the Royals.
I’ve heard the same “attitude” problem be brought up about Milton Bradley, B. J. Upton, and others. DDJ isn’t as good as those guys, obviously, but he’s a good player. You can base your personnel decisions on “attitude,” I guess, but that’s how you end up with a team full of Gloads and Bloomquists.
I have players I like or dislike irrationally, too. But liking or disliking him for those non-reasons doesn’t make them better or worse.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also not as crazy.
Milton Bradley
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but when a guy like davey gets away with it....
what the hell motivation does billy even have to become a better baserunner?
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
send him to bed without milk and cookies!
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by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found ths lookin for a pic of Willie Bloomquist

“What? I’m looking at the stats about how awesome this team is when I start Tony Pena Jr”
Still suffering from the greatest robbery of all time: The stealing of the 1994 AL Central title from the Royals
by BHWick on Jul 1, 2009 4:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's studying the percentages
Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.
by Rowyal on Jul 2, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In answer to your DDJ question
What would we trade him for? Outfielders like him are generally traded for like players, and while that sometimes works out (Tucker for Dye), the Royals would be trading their only plus fielder, as well as someone who has above average speed. I worry that they would get an outfielder that has a little more pop, fields worse, and walks even less. Then they could continue the Sunday softball team mentality. Hey, the pickoff and the constant backwards K’s are frustrating but it could be worse (and it is -just look at the rest of the team)
Royals fans seem to want to talk about trading guys that are virtually untradeable (Guillen, Jacobs) but the only guys that could get you VALUE in a trade are guys most people will have a cow about. Teahen has some value because of his versatility, Butler has value because of his potential, Meche has REAL trade value (i.e. you might get a REALLY good younger player for him), but of those 3, only Teahen is available.
Is it safe?
by KHAZAD on Jul 1, 2009 5:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what does his allegedly above average speed do for him?
He’s one of the worst base stealers I’ve ever seen. He’s shit running the bases. He’s a plus fielder in left, but there are lots of guys with less ‘speed’ that can do that as well.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon, just look at the numbers
Joey Gathright wa a better basestealer than DDJ, thus he’s better than DDJ, right?
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i was saying here...
is that even if davey has above average speed (which i’ll dispute), it doesnt matter if it doesnt translate to game speed. He cant steal bases and he doesnt have the range for center field. Joey could outrun a gazelle, but it was useless b/c up until the last year or so he was awful at stealing bases and wasnt a very good CF either.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a terrible basestealer
agreed. Last year was the first year his defense is CF really suffered.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey was also hampered as a base stealer
by never being on base.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that DDJ's problem
he wouldn’t get picked off so often if he never got on base.
He’s the anti-Bloomquist.
I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.
by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you re: trades
if we want to really make headway we need to be shopping Meche and/or Soria. As much as I would hate to do it, those two in particular would bring back some significant prospects. Trading DDJ would bring back a similar player or somebody in A ball, which I’m not opposed to but isn’t the biggest area of need at the moment.
A good on-base guy who is a good defender, isn’t that the type of guy that we need more, not less of?
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 1, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
see, we can agree!
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by devil_fingers on Jul 1, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade DDJ for a young CF...
Then send Maier back to Omaha and call up Thorman to play LF. I know everyone says that Thorman doesn’t play well in the majors, but he’s killing it in Omaha. What’s the point of that? So Omaha can win a championship?
by rph on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that why Kila is still there?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Kila's leading the charge...
…to a 31-47 start.
by kcemigre on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
…that record puts them 3 games behind the ML club.
(But half a game up on Cleveland).
by kcemigre on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's let him to do it for more than 175 abs
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 1, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN.com's game recap was particulary rough on Banny's supporting cast last night
As usual, [Bannister’s] teammates let him down. Normally, it’s the offense. This time, the defense let him down, too….
Bannister gave up six hits, two runs — one earned — with six strikeouts in seven innings.
Normally, that’s good enough to win anywhere. Just not in Kansas City. The Royals are among the AL’s worst in hitting, runs, slugging percentage and on-base percentage. They’ve been particularly inept with Bannister on the mound, scoring 10 runs in his six losses.
by benfunke on Jul 1, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, all that is actually true.
It’s still sad?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 1, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Banny doesn’t deserve this lack of offense.
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 1, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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