Zack Greinke Only American League Pitcher with Multiple Strikeouts, Robbed of Game MVP Award
Sure, it may be a homer pick, but you got any better ideas? The only guys who really had a great game were the reporters who made plans for later tonight. There was a four of five inning stretch in the middle of this game that... well, I don't even know if they actually played the innings at all. All I remember was Greinke pitching and commercials.
Bottom 4th:
Z. Greinke relieved M. Buehrle R. Ibanez fouled out to third D. Wright struck out looking S. Victorino struck out swinging
- Yay, the American League won. As a pathetic Royals fan, I get some sixteenth degree bragging rights from that.
- Even though the game "counts" now, there's still an inherent randomness to the game, that personally, I don't mind... if it didn't determine anything. As was mentioned in the game thread, the game was decided in an AB between an Oriole and a Padre.
- Between the blatant homerism of the managers and the newest trend of "guys vaguely from the home team area get special playing time considerations" we should really think of having this game not determine anything. I was actually nervous all day about the NL having an advantage because their best hitter was going to get three or four PAs because he was a Cardinal. But hey, it was a special moment when Ryan Franklin pitched in the third inning. Special.
- These games are becoming perfect parodies of today's closer-obsessed game. And the Amercian League has consistently had much better closers this decade. And more of them. It's an under-discussed key to the continued AL dominance of the Game. Think I'm exaggerating? Since the Gagne years, has the NL had a single closer who would crack the top 5 in the AL?
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crawford first position player since 1968 to win MVP
without a RBI (but i’m ok with it).
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by blue bandwagon on Jul 14, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
not just the AL
only pitcher in either league with more than one strikeout. pretty cool.
by swing and a miss on Jul 14, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
yeah great job on picking Halladay over Greinke, Joe Madden
Halladay gave up 4 hits and 3 runs in two innings with zero strikeouts. Great call starting Halladay over Greinke. What a joke.
greinke's performance just a sign of things to come
THE AL CENTRAL IS OURS!!!!
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by blue bandwagon on Jul 14, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
question
foxsports.com has Halladay listed as giving up 2 ER, while mlb.com has him listed as giving up 3 ER. Is foxsports wrong since there was Fielder doubled after the error, so Victorino would have scored anyways?
I'm starting a new method of choosing a favorite player:
From now on, anybody who doesn’t swing at the first pitch in an All-Star Game will move to the top of my list.
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I was watching the 1981 ASG on MLB Network last weekend
I was really amazed how many guys swung at the first pitch. Most hit weak dribblers too. The game flew along back then.
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news in kc saying royals getting 2012 ASG
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by blue bandwagon on Jul 14, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
which is probably old news
but first i heard of it
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by blue bandwagon on Jul 14, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we'll get it in
2014. Selig said KC would have one between 2008-2014… or something like that.
Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"
I don't think even Bud is dumb enough
To give it to the same stadium, unaltered, that hosted it in 1999.
Actually, he is.
I'm surprised it's not there every year.
Or every other year with Yankee Stadium. Just the way Bud would like it.
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if the plan to start halladay was to increase his trade value, epic fail.
by WhenWillDavidGlassDie? on Jul 14, 2009 11:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
IMagine what other fans would be saying about Zack
if he started this game & had to give a full press confernce w/ national media/
BOOM! ROASTED!
http://www.royalsreview.com/2009/7/13/947906/trading-chip-halladay-to-start-asg#
posted this earlier
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
oops that doesn't work like I thought it would
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Well at least Madden gave the start to the guy with an established MLB career
Tip ’O the hat to ya Roy, now I have no problem with that, because Zack did what he has been doing all this and part of last season, strike people out.
I ain’t mad at cha Madden, Grienke should be in the show long enough to get an ASG start, and really deep down who cares, he pitched in it today, and fanned ’em!!!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 14, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
ummm
I thought the start goes to the pitcher who has pitched the best in the first half. That pitcher would be Mr. Greinke. Established career my ass.
Sure I agree, but I don't mind
He showed everyone where he should have been, and that is good enough….for now.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
good call
He did prove to everyone where he should have started, and you’re right that is good enough. Plus, I’d rather take a Cy Young than be a starter in an All-Star game.
the same bias
will exist to prevent Greinke from winning the Cy Young. No Royal will ever win it again.
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many writers have Greinke as their first half
Cy Young. If he keeps it up, he’ll win it.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 15, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
If I'm not incorrect
Cy Young is decided by the writers, where as All Star Starter is decided by Joe Maddon.
Yes that's right - or is that write? ;-)
But, you don’t think the writers are biased to east coast baseball? Plus wins are the most important stat to them and Zaq is not going to be anywhere close to what will be needed due to his AAA teammates.
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2 of these crazy crunchy tacos with red shells
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 15, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
are u serious?
That sounds expensive for taco bell! i want that new bacon one, it sounds tasty.
yeah...it's my first and only food ive eaten today...so i was gonna make it worth it
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 15, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
You're going to feel like shit in about 20 minutes.
Enjoy.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
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i go for quality....
yes….at tbell
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 15, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Their Taco Meat
Used to taste like dirt; now it tastes like dog food smells. I can’t decide which is better, but I credit Pepsi for the change.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If by "amazing"
you mean “the vileness of this substance will cause you to react with amazement” then yes.
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I'm seriously thinking of writing to Maddon
What a douchebag. I love it that Halliday got raked. How is it that Maddon is such a stupid fuck that Greinke is apparently the 3rd best pitcher in AL? I would even start cheering against the Rays instead of for them if it wasn’t for the goddamn division they’re in. Seriously, no one else to cheer for.
Fuck This Team. Period.
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you're in luck my friend
Guess who we play next. The Rays. This Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And Greinke pitches Friday. I hope we beat the shit out of them.
well
I dont’ feel at all confident about that idea. Even with Xaq pitching, our offense is so feeble that I just don’t see even 1 win on that horizon. Although, perfect time for him to pitch a no-no to shove it in Madden’s face and break his painfully hip glasses.
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Seriously?
Greinke hasn’t been that great lately. Look at his monthly splits. His ERA has been around 4 since the beginning of June.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=greinza01&year=2009&t=p#month
Plus, since the Rays play Greinke Friday, I think Maddon wanted to avoid any appearance of impropriety in extending Greinke to a 2nd inning. But that’s the only reason I can come up with for pulling Greinke and batting Carl Crawford. He did end up being the MVP though.
it does make sense when you consider
that a win or loss may very well affect his team…halladay has been pitching better. I dont blame this on maddon…i blame this on selig’s dumb ass.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 15, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly what I mean
Why throw Greinke when the game matters? He hasn’t been Cy Young caliber lately. Now part of the reason he may not have been as good is because the games haven’t mattered lately, so likely, Maddon made a mistake, but hey, they won the game.
except during the last 30 days, Halladay hasn't pitched any better than Zack
Halladay 0-2, 4.50 ERA
Zack 2-3, 3.27 ERA
by swing and a miss on Jul 15, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Halladay gave up 5 runs at Yankee Stadium in his last start
And to begin June he threw a 7 hit, complete game, 14 K performance, where they bunched the 7 hits together and scored 4 runs. I’m not going to sit here and argue that Halladay was the better choice when I wanted Greinke to start. I’m just saying it’s pretty ridiculous to say:
I’m seriously thinking of writing to Maddon What a douchebag. I love it that Halliday got raked. How is it that Maddon is such a stupid fuck that Greinke is apparently the 3rd best pitcher in AL? I would even start cheering against the Rays instead of for them if it wasn’t for the goddamn division they’re in. Seriously, no one else to cheer for.
So be it, call me ridiculous.
I still think it wasn’t a performance based decision really. It was just another snub to KC Royals.
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If we're going off the argument that the most recent results should be weighted heavier
then we should take in to account Halladay’s last 4 games compared to Greinke’s last 4 games.
Halladay: 2 losses, 2 no decisions, ERA went from 2.52 to 2.85
Greinke: 2 wins, 2 no decisions, ERA went from 1.96 to 2.12
So now tell me who has been better recently? My point is, it all depends on where you make the cutoff mark.
Well it's not as far apart as you seem to think it is
I’m just trying to make the point that Halladay is a defensible selection
At no point in time this season
has a single AL pitcher’s ERA been better than Greinke’s. Wins are great and all, but they’re highly subjective based on run support.
Hopped around scanning different teams' ASG threads
and almost every team’s fans gushed over Greinke and fantasized ways to pry him away from clueless Dayton.
by swing and a miss on Jul 15, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
i wish you wouldve copied some of their most ridiculous trade offers...
both to our benefit and against us….im too lazy
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 15, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
What the fuck ESPN?
Talking about American League pitching winning this game for the AL tonight and the fuckers didn’t EVEN SHOW OR MENTION GREINKE! Halladay worked hard and then Buerhle set it up for Papelbon, Nathan, and Rivera.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
ok- edit.
They did a brief mention a few minutes later.
Still dumb. This is why I don’t watch Baseball Tonight.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
It would have been nice to see
Greinke starting and announced with the rest of the starters. As it is, it was nice to see him go out and dominate for an inning.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 15, 2009 1:44 AM EDT reply actions
I'm okay with Hallday starting
I think past track record should be considered, otherwise you end up with flash in the pans like Jack Armstrong starting the All-Star Game.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 15, 2009 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
???????
The Boston Herald reports the Boston Red Sox could release SS Julio Lugo when SS Jed Lowrie (wrist) returns Saturday, July 18.
That's the worst lookin' hat I've ever seen...
Not only did Hallady start, but he got to hit!
Greinke would have been able to get an all-star HR!
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