How to use your Bullpen. A presentation for Trey Hillman (w/ pictures)
Hello Mr. Hillman,
On behalf of the Royals fanbase, we here at the International American School of Bullpen Usage would like to offer you a free course on how to use your bullpen. The fanbase is concerned about how the bullpen has been used recently and they wish for us to provide you with some pointers on how to get from the 6th to the 9th inning. We will provide pictures of your relievers in case you have problems linking names to faces.
These men make up your bullpen:
When your pitcher has either given up too many runs to have a shot of winning, or has thrown over 110 pitches in 5 innings, typically, you go to the bullpen. Unless Gil Meche is pitching, then you pull him after 115 at the earliest. So the question is "Who should I bring in first?"
First, as you may have noticed from the list of the magnificent seven, this guy is no longer in your bullpen:
Horacio is currently pitching with the Nationals, a team worse than the Royals. Therefore you cannot bring in Horacio as the first reliever.
The first thing to consider from a relief pitcher is his WHIP. To put it another way, how many hits and walks they give up per inning. If they give up lots of hits and walks, then they are not as good as pitchers who don't give up lots of hits and walks.
Of the six relievers you can go to as the first reliever, here are their WHIPs. Cruz (1.26), Colon (1.35), Bale (1.40), Wright (1.45), Mahay (1.57), and Tejada (1.94). Let's summarize that in pictures
Sensible picks:
Bad Picks:
Your first reliever out of the pen tonight was Ron Mahay. Who is the guy in the middle on the bad picks. Your second reliever out of the pen was Jamey Wright, the guy on the left who looks like a Deliverance extra. Don't worry about the guy on the right, you never use him anyways. Wright has entered the game with a lead 14 times and that lead has been reduced or eliminated 9 times after he finished. He has entered 5 tie games and given up a go-ahead run twice.
Your usage of Mahay suggests that you only recently found out that he wasn't traded to the Phillies last year. You typically pitch Mr. Mahay once every four days. Once Ron Mahay came off of a 4 day layoff to throw 7 pitches, and he didn't pitch for another 6 days.
When your team is ahead, as the Royals occasionally are, the first reliever is an important reliever. Colon (guy in the middle on the good list) has been brought in twice with a lead in 15 appearances. Cruz (glamour shots photo on the left of the good list) has been the first man out occasionally. You've only brought Bale (guy on the right, good list) out before the 7th once.
It is also worth considering the walk totals for relievers. In regards to walks per inning, your crew breaks down as follos: Colon (0.35), Mahay (0.39), Wright (0.39), Bale (0.51), Cruz (0.52), and Tejada (1.015). This information is especially useful for mid-inning relief. Say if you bring in Bale mid-inning.
Out of your pitchers, you typically bring Bale, Cruz and Wright into the tough spots. While reserving milder spots to Tejada, Mahay, and Colon.
You have brought Tejada into 14 games with runners on and 3 with no runners on. Which is kind of confusing, since he walks lots of batters, leading to more runners.
But Mahay, Bale, and Wright are the worst when it comes to the runners on base for their entry scoring. If you have two runners on when any of those 3 enter, the odds are good that 1 runner scores.
Roman Colon, on the other hand, seems to be good with not having inherited runners score.
To put it another way. Jamey Wright has entered in 9 save situations, and blown the lead 3 times. Which is not to suggest that the lead stayed the same the other 6 times. It didn't tonight.
But there is another important lesson to learn in regards to relievers.
As you may have noticed, one man was not mentioned in the garble. Joakim Soria.
But if there is a situation where there is 1 or 2 outs in the 8th and a save situation, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BRING JOAKIM SORIA INTO THE GAME.
In fact, most managers would bring their best relief pitcher into the game.Soria has the best numbers for WHIP, Hits per inning, and fewest Walks per inning. He also strikes out 1 1/4 per inning.
So, a few things to remember
1) Jamey Wright is the worst pitcher that you use regularly. Try to not bring him into games when you have a narrow lead.
2) You might want to try this guy without runners on base for once. Just to see if he has better luck in not walking people then.
3) Just because this guy is old doesn't mean that he has to rest 4 days between appearances.
4) This guy should probably not get so many big time situations. Just because he's old and pitched in Japan doesn't mean that he's an ideal late innings guy. Try him in the middle of the game to see how that works.
5) This guy has been a disappointment, but try seeing how he fares as the first guy out of the pen. Also try to get him to not throw changeups to HR hitters.
6) This guy is not Robinson Tejada. Try putting him in a game or two just to see how that works out. At least give him some of the spots that you keep giving to Jamey Wright.
7) This guy can pitch for 4 outs without his arm falling off.
Remember Trey, when your starters leave a game with a lead, it's likely that your offense will clock out for the night and it will all be on the relievers to hold up the fort.
Just because you have a pen where 4 of 7 members are former Atlanta Braves and where large swathes of the pen may suck on any given night is not an excuse to keep up the status quo. Outside of Soria, there shouldn't be some preset role. There is nothing stupider than annointing an 8th inning guy, because confining your two best relievers to the last two innings means that lousy relievers have to step in to hold earlier leads.
Mr. Hillman, we hope that you can apply some of these lessons to improve the usage of your bullpen. We thank you for your time.
The staff of the International American School of Bullpen Usage
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Dude, there is only so much I can blame Trey
when I honestly feel five of those seven guys you pictured wouldn’t even sniff a contending ballclubs roster, and one of the remaining two (Cruz) has been Mr. Underwhelming this season, given what we gave up to get him (high second rounder).
Yes, his stubbornness about using “Jack” in the eighth inning/unconventional situations has shot this team in the foot a number of times. But its not exactly like he is Jesus and can turn water into wine. Unfortunately, he just water boards us with that water.
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by JobDDT on Jul 18, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It even was slightly low on snark
Just enough :)
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I like Pictures!!
Yeah there is only so much you can blame on Hillman(though i agree), to some extent the players have to execute. Lamey Wrong for some reason sucks up all the exicution, therefore stops Jack from Mexicuting!!!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
You should have used the pictures of the bullpen
with the flippin sweet mustaches.
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The best was "don't worry about the guy on the right - you don't use him anyway"
I feel as if he’s screwed Tejeda over by not pitching him as the main setup man. It seems like Trey’s lack of confidence in his resulted in his own lack of self confidence. Even when Farnsworth was awesome for like 16 straight outtings in low leverage situations you should have realized this much earlier and pitched him in high leverage situations WHEN EVERYONE ELSE WAS SUCKING.
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 18, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
When Trey buries someone, he buries them deep
which is a bit ridiculous when you consider that he needs to utilize his roster and when you consider that he lost this team last year.
I’m not sold on having a consistent setup guy. If you have a second best reliever, you can use him in situations where a good reliever is needed. A setup guy is only really useful if you need to give some quick training to a future closer.
Tejeda pitching with people on base constantly, when he walks lots of people… that’s not helpful. Makes you wonder how he likes pitching from the stretch
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
THE RAYS DON'T HAVE A CONSISTENT CLOSER AND IT'S CLEARLY KILLING THEM
Why can’t the Royals get a guy like J.P. Howell? That damn Allard Baird…
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 18, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that Hillman would use them properly,
but considering that this season is shot, I really would love to see the Royals promote Rosa & Hayes, just to see if we might have better options for next year. What would it hurt? Rosa started poorly this season, but has been much better the last month or so. Sure, promoting Hayes might be a tad quick – but he has been very good this season at every level, and his unconventional pitching style might just translate to the bigs very well. There are now more than a few successful submarine/sidearm pitchers in the majors, why not see if we can develop one?
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Because you play to win the game.
And, we're still in the hunt for the division crown!
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It's probably too early to promote him but whatever
What’s the worst that happens, he gets shelled like everyone else?
Yabuta has been very good lately. Davies could be an interesting closer, and perhaps he could throw harder if he pitched 1 or 2 innings a night. There are several options available as well as Soria pitching earlier. Moore has definitely given him shit to shuffle, but he’s flinging it in his face the way he’s using it.
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 20, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
i think this is a very important point
confining your two best relievers to the last two innings means that lousy relievers have to step in to hold earlier leads.
that the royals management (and many other teams) don’t seem to grasp, which is particularly important for a team like the Royals this year when bullpen pitchers not named “Soria” are not performing well.
"The life of a (Royals) fan must be lived forward but can only be understood backward" -- Kierkegaard (more or less)
Funny thing is...
Trey used the 3 guys mentioned in the top tier and the Royals still lost tonight in the 8th. If Soria can’t get 4-6 outs after not pitching for a week then….but Hillman said in his post game conference he wasn’t going to sell his soul to the devil and risk injuring Soria. Trey it looks like you sold your soul to become a manager of a MLB team without ever coaching in the MLB in any capacity. A few more games like this and bye bye
granted
my closing list said that Bale and Cruz shouldn’t get into high risk situations too
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
fair enough
Didn’t want to reread the list again.
by RoyalMizzou on Jul 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he wasn’t going to sell his soul to the devil and risk injuring Soria
Awesome. What a stupid fuck. Of course, to follow the logic to the bitter end is…“If we NEVER pitch Soria, he’ll NEVER get injured.”
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by philofthenorth on Jul 19, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you forgot to Bruce Chen on this list....
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the scary thing is that
Trey did some of the exact things that I warned against yesterday and today
like with Bale and Wright today
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
Trey is lost, just like Herm was
How many bad managers, coaches must the fans in KC be forced to deal with? Let’s face it, the Royals went with the cheapest hire. The old saying is business is, “When you pay peanuts for management, don’t be mad when all you can hire are monkeys”.
Glass doesn’t care. I am sure Trey is a nice guy, but his lack of knowledge shows everyday.
Surely, there has to be a guy that has more knowledge of the game, that want’s a shot to be a MLB coach. I don’t expect them to pay “Torre” money, but come on. You can’t tell me there isn’t a guy that would take this job, and perform better for the same pay.
Well, I am not spending another dollar at the “K”, and if my fellow Royal fans would do the same-maybe we could see a change. I would rather donate the money I would have spent at the “K” to a local youth team or a NAIA college area team, that at least is somewhat fundamentally sound and well coached. At least those teams hustle, and care. (See Guillen)
by Free KC sports from sucky ownership! on Jul 20, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
i don't think hillman was hired because he was cheap
he was hired for… his love of the bible?
I’m not upset with David Glass at the moment. He’s giving Dayton enough money to win. The trouble is how Dayton is spending the money.
by 9il on Jul 20, 2009 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't understand the Glass criticism the past couple of years
You can bitch about the Moore hire, but he was really overrated/overhyped and Glass just fell for it.
There are probably 100,000 people who would be better than Hillman as his job. Even Softball coaches woudl be better
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 20, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Bible thumpers tend to stick together
It is detrimental as these types of people tend not to challenge their own views (not everybody, but the vast majority, and for sure all of the ones I met in college). They have faith that they are correct, and when a competing idea comes to them, they dismiss it as a test of faith. When these types stick together it is even worse, as they reinforce each other’s faith. I believe this stubborness is part of the problem with Dayton and Trey. They don’t seem to be willing to consider the notion that they are not correct, or have some things to learn as they have faith their way is correct, and the fans are testing their faith.
by AxDxMx on Jul 20, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yay wild psychological speculations based on assumptions about religion
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 20, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
These are not wild psychological speculations
I experienced it firsthand where I attended college. I was not even given the time of day by these types of people which made up about 75% of the campus, simply because I didn’t attend their bible studies or their meetings. And technically, I was one of them, as I am a Christian. My wife was ostracized from a group of friends when she stopped going to the meetings with them because of other commitments for her Music major. I literally saw meltdowns in class when professors challenged the viewpoints of these people. I readily admit that not all these people are like that, but a rather large majority are. It couldn’t be groupthink, so wild speculation it is!
I experienced it in a very similar environment
and probably have a similar background to you. And I’ve experienced it form a great many other people of varying reliigious (and non-religious) backgrounds and levels of education. but we don’t need to get into one-upsmanship about who was more “oppressed” because he was were “enlightened” than those wacky fundamentalists, as that isn’t the issue.
But the real issue (other than the sensitive nature of religious discussions in this forum) is speculation that this is the root of Moore and Hillman’s views of their jobs, particularly since their views are held by so many people in baseball (in both the past and present) who are or were much less religious.
Ironically, in the context of another discussion, Branch Rickey was quite well known as a “Bible thumper” and teetotaler.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 20, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Alll you really need to do is look at the history of the middle-east
such as the 3 Crusades and perhaps the current conflict to highlight Ax’s point that religion unequivocally breeds stubbornness conviction. You wouldn’t be a believer otherwise
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 20, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the relatively secular societies of the 20th century were far less dogmatic and violent
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 20, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Hitler and Stalin both manifested themselves into some form of human gods
i guess they were pagans by nature, but the nation-states they lead were full of citizens captivated by their preaching, while being terrorized by the SS/Cheka.
But yeah, in alot of ways they negated/usurped the traditional religious beliefs by becoming so powerful without any direct line to a deity such as with kings. But technological advances like trench warfare, tanks, airplanes, machine guns just made killing so easy. Mankind took matters into their own hands and the world erupted into a hegemonic war. But your point could be taken back a century because Napolean didn’t use religion as a format, and the British empire was more about mercantilsim/imperialism while using missionaries as a cover
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 20, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I've Been Persecuted
By Zoroastrians all my life. They really piss me off with their “Zarathustra this, Zarathustra that…..” business.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 21, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Most Of Those
Guys would be best used as grounds keepers and mucking out the clubhouse .
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