The Royals Can Never Just Make a Mistake Once
by royalsreview on Jul 19, 2009 12:23 AM EDT
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The Royals never just mess up. No, they fail, then they fail again, then they fail again.
They keep failing because they never think they're wrong. I swear, if you scripted the last three months, or the last fifteen years, nobody outside Tyler Perry would find it believable. Pick an area of the organization: managing injuries, acquiring players, tactical in-game moves, whatever. Different actors, same story. We go through WWIII over Rany's post on the team's mishandling of injuries... so the team responds by doing what they can to destroy Gil Meche. We go through Angel Berroa and Tony Pena Jr, so they respond with Yuniefi. The Royals had a hacktastic team that couldn't get on base four years ago, and since then, Dayton has brought in half the guys on the last page of the OBP rankings. And on and on.
The Royals don't just bring in bad players, they then extend those players. Then, finally, bring in worse players as replacements. All the while, they all get paid, too much.
The last two nights have been especially rich, all the moreso, given that J.P. Howell has been there for the Rays. The Royals are 10-9 in games started by Zack Greinke. Do you have any idea how incredibly damning that is?
It isn't fun anymore.
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About to weigh in on this game. I can hardly wait.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 19, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Hopes Here
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by philofthenorth on Jul 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter's Jumpthrow From
The hole is godlike.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 19, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
S-Key rules, dude
He saw 10 pitches tonight, 5 of them in one AB, 5 of them in 3 AB.
He saw 18 pitches last night, 9 of them in one AB, 9 of them in 3 AB
Yuni clearly is not a 3 pitch per PA guy, he’s a 3.5 pitch per PA guy. So there!
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
is S-Key storing valuables in his pants? He just doesn’t slide right. He flopped last night. He stopped running tonight.
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan of the Yuni trade,
but him not heading to 2nd on that double play ball was a good move. He didn’t run into the tag, that’s good. Probably why the double play wasn’t turned.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why
because it confused the second baseman or what?
It just seems awkward, at best, to not run these things out. At worst, it’s lazy, and Yuni got lucky.
Granted, he also got lucky that having a 2 pitch AB after a walk didn’t lead to a double play
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. It's not lazy.
It’s because running into the 2nd basemen takes out the step of him throwing the ball to the ss at 2nd base. If he runs into the tag, it makes it easier for the defense. A quick tag and throw makes the double play almost automatic.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He stopped ON PURPOSE
so he didn’t get tagged before 2nd by the 2B and then tossed to 1st for the DP. How many times have we seen Callaspo or somebody else run right towards the 2B this year, only making the DP easier to turn, and the we bitch about that. Very good awareness by Yuni.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DDJ barely beat the throw, as is
considering Yuni’s rep, i’m not expecting him to slide into the guy’s legs, but what he did still doesn’t make any strategic sense. It’s a force out, and no matter where you’re at, the out occurs when second is touched.
S-Key is far from the Brent Mayne status of typically sucking but making unusually crafty plays.
I did like him backing up Gordon on a groundball. Something I saw about zero times from any recent shortstop here
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You watched the play right?
The fielder hesitated, as he wanted to tag him, but then had to flip to SS. Yuni did the right thing there.
Complain about something that matters. Going after this kind of stuff is pointless.
by AxDxMx on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, the play was 5-6-3
so Yuni was stopping in front of Bartlett and not Aybar
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we are talking about separate plays.
I remember the play being a ground ball to 2nd base.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
groundball to the secondbaseman
flips to Bartlett at the bag
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back and look at the play.
If you still think Yuni’s play was out of laziness then you’re a fucking baseball tard.
by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 19, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
buy me Gameday, and I could probably watch it now
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Why would Yuni run into the tag and take the flip out of it?
You always make the defense make the play. Running right into the tag does their job for them.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm making it fairly clear, right?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dog knows what you're talking about.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall Aybar having a shot of tagging Yuniesky
it was a flip play, that’s how 4-6-3 works
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S BECAUSE HE STOPPED
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOUD NOISES!
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more than anything
it’s a weird play
perhaps his fundamentals are a bit unique considering that he was seasoned more in Cuban play than in the minor leagues
now, the flop last night was worse
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a personal witch-hunt against Yuni?
I mean, he made a heads-up play. At a time when there are more dumbshit plays being made than ever, I think we should be throwing a party that he didn’t run right into Aybar (making the tag quicker than he could have tossed to 2nd – thus moving the ball even FURTHER from 1st – thus causing it to take LONGER for the ball to be thrown for the backside of the DP) and keeping the inning alive and allowing the run to score. HE was going to be out, one way or another. All he did was make it more difficult to turn the DP (it worked, if you didn’t notice). So, let’s take joy in these small victories, please.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aybar wasn't directly in Yuniesky's path
unless Yuniesky thought second base was in center field.
It was not a bad play. It was a weird play.
And considering that the click-thru rate from RoyalsReview to the HerpesDating site is higher than the approval for this trade. A lot of other people are doing worse to Yuniesky.
I complimented him on backing up Gordon on that play that he made the throw, for one.
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aybar was charging in
because DDJ’s grounder was a high bouncer. Had Yuni kept running and Aybar took 2 steps forward, they would have run right into each other.
Weird play? Sure, but that’s what would have happened.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2 steps to tag him
and a quick throw to first, instead he hesitated and had to toss to second. Great play by Yuni, bad play by the 2nd baseman.
by AxDxMx on Jul 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
if he keeps stopping in the basepath on double plays, it’s going to get noticed and pointed out.
But then again, as long as he doesn’t talk to the media at all, he will avoid the fate of Jose Guillen
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE DID IT FOR A REASON
Has he done that any other time? Just stopped? No. He did it this time FOR A REASON
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering that I don't watch Mariners games
you give out a question that nobody on here can answer
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant since he has been here.
You are making this WAY more difficult than it has to be.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's been here two damn days
seriously
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's all we have to go by at this point.
Until he gives me a reason to be down on him, I’m going to hope for the best and assume that he’s giving it his all.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he has been 1,000,000% better than what we had before him at SS
too, so I’m holding out hope.
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by KCsince88 on Jul 19, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s going to get noticed and pointed out.
If he gets thrown out because he is jogging, it should get noticed. But making a smart move on the basepaths shouldn’t be something that is questioned.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah yeah
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i definitely thought it looked weird...
but it happened fast and i’m without DVR. So if Yuni was going to run into a tag, stopping was good. I didn’t think that was the case as it developed, but his actions sure seemed to trip up aybar so maybe a tag was possible.
by stuckinstl12 on Jul 19, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When we start winning consistently it will be all the sweetest
sure, it may be 40 years, but whatever
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
imagine if, in 2006, we'd be told what 2009 would be like
I think I woulda just stopped caring then and moved onto something else
by royalsreview on Jul 19, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if we knew what 2009 would be like in 2006
how many of us would have preferred keeping Allard? or at least not hiring Dayton?
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
allard was terrible
dayton is still a much better gm, but may not be good enough.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
allard had to go...
i think that was more or less estabslihed, at the very least, simply because ownership didn’t respect him either (why you have your most employee as someone you don’t respect… that’s another story I guess)
by royalsreview on Jul 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly,
as a lifetime kansas citian, i’ve got nowhere else to go. this is my team, my city. i can’t stop caring, as long as we’ve got a team in our city. i honestly believe, that if it doesn’t work out with dayton, with the embarrassing amount of resources that he’s been pouring into the minor leagues, that once he’s gone, the glasses will go back to the small-time way of running this organization, especially if/when tommy boy takes over from papa glass.
i know that i can tend to be over the top at times and prone to wild statements, but i really really worry that if that happens, the very future of the royals in kc could be in doubt. when you’ve got die-hard fans like you and rany giving up, surely the average fan would stop caring as well if they go back to the wal-mart days.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm curious...
I don’t quite know what to think anymore: do the royals ONLY have die-hard fans at this point or did 90% of the die-hards leave by now
or both?
by royalsreview on Jul 19, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the average fan
doesn’t analyze thinks ad nauseum like we do. look at the attendance for the last two nights (giveaways or not, the fans are coming out).
i mean, what is dm going to do for next year? I quickly figured that, even if he gets rid of olivo and jacobs (neither of which are likely, but possible I guess) the payroll is going to be right around the same as this year, maybe a few million less. what is he going to be able to do to improve this team? who is he going to trade for or sign that is going to dramatically improve this team?
we’ve got a few pieces on this team that you can win with, but way too many holes. guillen’s not going anywhere, callaspo is a butcher in the field, gordon doesn’t look like he’s going to break out, and several of the pitchers are too inconsistent. on top of that, you’ve got the same manager coming back who doesn’t appear to inspire the players to do their best and/or makes highly questionable moves.
dayton’s moves seem to collectively be getting worse. so, how is next year going to be any better than this year?
add to that the fact that hosmer and moustakas don’t appear to be doing anything great in the minors, we just traded one of our better pitching prospects, and there’s really not much in the minors that can help us for at least a few more years, and it just doesn’t seem like it’s going to get much better before the ax falls.
the only thing that’s keeping my hope alive with dayton is the minor leagues, and i’m starting to wonder about how well that’s even working out.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the average fan knows enough about baseball to know when a team sucks
and they know how to act accordingly
this team is like 2-9 when they draw over 33K at home. I think our record for games where we play in front of less than 33K is pretty close to .500
so maybe it’s good for them if we don’t show up
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
way to show the fans a good time. when we don’t win with greinke on the mound it’s doubly crushing.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we did somehow draw 30K tonight
granted, drawing a lot more than that is going to be hard due to the team, and due to the pricing in the upper deck being nutty. Let’s just say that there’s a good chunk of $16 seating in VLI that is ridiculous. The higher rows just don’t sell. Same goes for Field Box/Field Plaza in foul ground near the foul pole, which is $26-$33.
Granted, the lowest ticket price in STL is $16, for 4th deck RF seating. $27 for third deck RF. That’s why those damn Cardinals fans travel east, because their park will be gouging them for awhile
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did somehow draw 30K tonight
Greinke Greinke Greinke Greinke Greinke Greinke Greinke Greinke………..
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 19, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess people watching the ASG here noticed Greinke
or they really wanted the HOF figurine or whatever was being given out
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money wouldn't be the solution either
seriously, all snark aside, what gives anyone confidence at this point that Moore would know who to spend it on? After Meche (it will be interesting to see how well he’s able to pitch next season), the last two offseasons have been full of moves everyone said were terrible and, guess what? They were terrrible.
Good for Moore on Meche, Soria, and I guess Bloomquist’s being a gamer and some other moves. I just wonder why, when defending the Betancourt trade, he didn’t also brag about Guillen, Farnsworth, HoRam Part II, Jacobs, Mahay, the Gload contract, Brett Tomko, etc.?
Allard was terrible, no one denies that. That we’re even making the comparison itself says all that needs to be said about Dayton Moore.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 19, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The scary thing about the money
in the past, Dayton repeated over and over again that he would be able to add payroll if the move made sense and that there was no set limit on payroll.
Now that we’re reaching the end of his third year, he’s switched his message to saying that he’s out of money.
Unless I'm wrong...
by Top Ramen on Jul 19, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point
it’s got to turn around significantly by this time next year, meaning the major league team is fighting for the division AND the minor leagues are well into the top 10 per BA, i think i would be on board with discussing replacements.
to be honest, at this point i’m tired of defending the guy and having the team make me look like a buffoon because they’re so fucking terrible.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boy, what a buzzkill
this season has been an absolute trainwreck. now that the negative news about the farm starts to pour in, you really have to wonder how long DM will be in charge.
hello cheap-ass royals again as soon as he gets canned. Dayton, if you care about the future of baseball in KC you had better get this shit turned around really fucking quick.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 19, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please royalsreview,
Give us your word that you won’t be going anywhere like Rany might be?
by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 19, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm not at that point yet
but I may have to reinvent myself as a blogger
by royalsreview on Jul 19, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another thing that makes the whole Cruz thing unusual
yanking Bale after he gets Zobrist (RHB) so he doesn’t face Burrell (RHB).
Oh yeah, I LOVEEEEEEEEEE Cruz’s pitch selection to Burrell
Slider, inside, called strike
Fastball, down/outside, ball
Fastball, inside, strike
Fastball, down/outside, ball
Fastball, down the fucking middle, foul
Fastball, same freaking spot, line drive
To summarize.. Cruz threw the same pitch at the same speed five times in a row. Burrell got two fastballs down the middle in the same place. Either Cruz is a fucking moron at pitch sequence or Olivo needs to realize that if you get called strikes inside, and balls outside, you aim for the inside and not the outside.
Aybar got his hit on pitch #6, a changeup. After pitch #5, a changeup, was a foul. Oh yeah, a hanging changeup. Throwing 81-85 four straight times. You know what’s a changeup after 81-85 for three pitches? THROWING A GOD DAMN FASTBALL
Juan Cruz is such a freaking ripoff, it’s unreal. Although some of it can be credited to our genius of a manager.
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by BHWick on Jul 19, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From the vendor
The play by Betencourt: he stopped on purpose, because if he kept running, he would have been tagged out and the DP likely turned. It was the proper baserunning play by Yuni.
On the attendance: similar weather both nights, fireworks & hall of fame game Friday, Dick Howser figurine + Greinke Saturday. Judging from the looks of the upperdeck, many of the 30,000 tonight were of the “buy a ticket(s), go thru the gate as many times as needed, get your souvenir (s), leave the stadium and put them on E-Bay” crowd.
Don’t won’t to bring up an old sore point with me – but Greinke, unjustly, does not produce more than a couple of thousand extra ticket sales, at most.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Jul 19, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
J P Howell
watching Howell succeed is a bitter pill to swallow, because it reminds me that Dayton Moore has TWICE tried to solve a problem that wasn’t all that much of a problem in the first place, at least on a team with a HELL OF A LOT of other, more presssing problems to solve instead.
I speak of trading both Howell and RamRam solely because he didn’t think DDJ was good enough to man CF for a couple more seasons.
Not arguing that DDJ shouldn’t have been moved eventually, just that given the state of the franchise at both points in time, he sure in the hell should have been targeting other areas to fix first.
Just thought I’d throw that one in there as another example of not learning from mistakes.
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by loyal2sdad on Jul 19, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder
if Moore knew Hillman would make all these boneheaded moves so that it would take some heat off of him (Moore) “just in case” some of his surefire moves didn’t work out.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 19, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
arrrrrrghhhhhh!!!!!!
by WhenWillDavidGlassDie? on Jul 19, 2009 3:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
and RamRam and Mahay were so good last year...
Sigh… 08 Bullpen + 09 Starters = a lot more wins
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Jul 19, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very good read RR
Also, why do we have to have players that are so good at one thing and SO bad at something else. I’d love to be able to cheer one of our players that I didn’t have to hate the next inning because he pulled some little league stunt.
Olivo’s SLG (sometimes) and rocket arm VS. his shitty plate discipline and passed balls
Callaspo’s good hitting VS. his shaky middle defense
Teahen gunning guys down from RF last year VS. running into outs on the bases this year.
DDJ playing great (I think) LF Defense VS. getting picked off of first like my softball team
I mean, can we get some consistency. Fuck.
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Jul 19, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think the problem is that (outside of a couple of pitchers) we dont have anyone who i'd classify as 'so good' at anything...
seriously, who on this team is really good at anything?
Defense?
Stealing bases?
Hitting for power?
Hitting for average?
Plate discipline?
Find me one other team like this
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 20, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Wikipedia
“In November 2005, Moore interviewed with the Boston Red Sox for their GM opening, but withdrew his name from consideration after the first interview. "
Hmm.. DM: "They kept mentioning “statistics” and stuff. I don’t really understand all that…"
Hmm.. DM: "They kept mentioning “statistics” and stuff. I don’t really understand all that…"I wonder what the team would have been like had Miles Prentice bought the team. It’s worth repeating: “[The Board] approved [Glass’] bid of $96 million for the Royals despite the fact a competing bid by Miles Prentice was 25% higher, at $120 million. During Glass’ ownership (2000-2007) the Royals have averaged 96 losses, with only one winning season and four seasons with 100 or more losses, the worst sustained performance in the franchise’s 39 year history.” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by JChief on Jul 19, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wasnt prentice considered too poor?
to where a decent payroll would actually be a problem financially?
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