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Dr. Nick Swartz or: How I learned how much injuries hurt this team and how to look to next year

http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/06/release-hounds.html

There. For the like 3 people who haven't already read it.

That gets you up to speed. The idea? That this Royals team, the one we are painfully watching day in and day out, the one beset by injuries, is much better than the product on the field.

Star-divide

So I went ahead and did a fairly brief analysis of what this team would have been like with all its parts intact, no injuries to Soria, Aviles, Gordon, Crisp or Buck. I believe I did my best to approximate the playing time and performance of as much of the team as possible. For the most part I used the projections from Fangraphs for the players who missed large chunks of playing time, (Aviles, Gordon, Crisp) and simply extended the stats for those who didn't.

Then I compared that to the team without those players. For that I simply used the players performances so far as a starting point and extrapolated from there.

Other than that I made very few changes, certain things (like Catcher defense, running ability, final ERAs) I did my best to approximate, which is why the changes to those categories are generally quite small.

 

With Injuries: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AosqUw817rAGcmdLTWtxVHBVc0ZRQzlkaFA3YVJUVWc&hl=en

Without Injuries: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AosqUw817rAGcnBicHdaSkpRaXVpakZLbTdVRm9lMWc&hl=en

Basically I reused the old spreadsheet form the start of the season to determine the projected season.

Now this was a pretty quick and dirty method and if anyone notices any major discrepancies let me know, but I feel like this is a pretty good estimation both of the team that we had to start the year...and the one that is currently on the field.

 

Also just a small side note: I really, REALLY think people under appreciate David DeJesus. If he was hitting close to what he did last season, David would be a 5+ WAR player in LF. For comparison, here's the list of ALL OF's with more than 5 WAR last season :Carlos Beltran, Manny Ramirez, Grady Sizemore, Nick Markakis, Matt Holliday, Ryan Ludwick, Alex Rios. That's it. For those of you keeping track, only three of those guys, Markakis, Sizemore and Rios, are in the AL.

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It was about 10 Wins give or take…
The pre-injury team was about 84 wins while the post-injury team was at about 74.

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 2, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

74 might be pushing it with this squad right now.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129

by Warden11 on Jul 2, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Royals right now are on pace for 69.5 wins

If you take away the 18-11 start, they are playing at a .321 clip. Adding the 18-11 record back in, that puts them on pace for 59.5 wins. Go Trey Go!

Gordon coming back should help, as that will eliminate 1 roster spot of suckitude for Luis Penandez, TPJ, or Tug. And my guess is Tug, because they LOVE the other 2 for some reason.

by AxDxMx on Jul 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought everyone had a google account.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129

by Warden11 on Jul 2, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I don't have a clue about is

how much does a 10-game difference vary from the mean cost of injuries across the league?

Most extreme case I can think of: the ‘72 and ’73 Mets sure seemed like very different teams when they were healthy and when they weren’t. They started ‘72 an impressive 25-7 and then DL’ed their way to also-ran status, fielding in the last week of the season the second-worst line-up ever to get no-hit, per this recent article. They had another run of injuries in ‘73 that kept them in last place through August, but by then everybody was healthy again, and they went on to win their weak division and knock off the Reds in the NCLS for the pennant. And they missed beating the vaunted A’s for the championship in 5 games only by one routine groundball through Felix Millan’s wickets. Anyway, the point is that they were really good when healthy and pretty lousy when hurt, and the difference was probably significantly more than 10 games.

by 2X2L on Jul 2, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a small clarification

I forgot to put this in there
The injury team INCLUDES any contributions from injured players to the point where they were injured.
So the team got about an extra win from Coco, possibly an extra win from Aviles etc.
Plus especially for the injury team I was a bit positive.
A closer approximation would be that the injured team would win about 70-71 games.

I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT

by RoyalPug on Jul 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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