Mark Grudzielanek Matters Tweak Royals One Last Time, 2B Signs With Twins A Month Too Late
In December of 2005, Allard Baird signed Mark Grudzielanek to a one-year, $4 million dollar contract, with a player option for 2007. Grudzielanek's arrival was announced the same morning that Allard's other treasures -- Doug Mientkiewicz, Paul Bako and Scott Elarton were announced -- producing surely one of the lamest mass free agency sprees of all time. And yes, four years later, I more or less now know how to spell each guy's name.
Grudz's player option for 2007 ($3 million) was set to vest after 500 2006 PAs, which he ended up easily reaching. Of course, win-now Dayton Moore took over during the 2006 season, and rather than trading Grudzielanek, instead tore up his existing contract, gave him a raise for 2007 ($4 million) and threw in an option for 2008. Instead of spending one season, or less, with Kansas City, he spent three.
The first or second Grudzielanek contracts were not bad deals for the Royals. In those three seasons he was valuable both in the field and at the plate, and he posted a cumulative 7.0 WAR, making him well worth his salary. While the speculations of this basement-dwelling blogger aren't worth much, it's hard to believe that the Royals couldn't have gotten something for Mark Grudzielanek in 2006. Or in 2007. Or, catch this, in 2008. (As far as I can tell, he did not have a no-trade clause, and if he did, he certainly shouldn't have been given one.)- He was an extremely consistent player.
- He played a tough to fill, and field, defensive position acceptably.
- He was a good hitter.
- He had a solid reputation as a "gamer"/"good clubhouse guy". Including extensive time on playoff teams.
- He had a reasonable contract.
But as we know, the Royals never traded him. Not at the deadline, not during the off-season. Never. In a thousand years, people will look back and wonder at the oddity that was his solid, yet essentially pointless, three-year run with the Royals.
This strange stasis reached its poetic peak in 2008, after the Royals had elected not to trade Grudzielanek a third time, even though he was now clearly not even part of the immediate future. On August 1st, the first game after the deadline, Grudzielanek injured himself ,and never played for the Royals again. Perfect.
Still, the Royals did the reasonable thing and offered Grudzielanek arbitration this off-season, which he, for some reason, declined. When the owners colluded, err, "dealt with the new economic environment", he was left standing in the cold. The Royals waited for him to be signed, set to snag a compensatory pick if he did so. They waited. They waited. They waited.
Then, a month too late and for too little money to matter, Grudz did sign, a minor league deal with Minnesota. No supplemental pick.
May we always remember him.
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To be fair
in 2006 he was only 36 years old — so barely past his prime in Dayton’s terms
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprised his hometown Brew Crew didn't go for him
And traded for Felipe Lopez instead.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the alternate universe
the Rays signed Grudz in December 2005 and traded him in July 2006 for Ben Zobrist and Dan Wheeler.
And Mientkiewicz was flipped to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson.
by Gopherballs on Jul 20, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadly
Dougie was actually pretty decent for the half-season he played — definitely worth the money. Even given is playing time, that was probably a better free agent contract for a position player than anything signed by Dayton Moore.
think about that
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mientkiewicz was the practically perfect placeholder 1B
Unfortunately, he was holding a place for Gload and then Jacobs.
by Gopherballs on Jul 20, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urge to kill rising
That’s what I think many are missing about the Rays. Its not just that they draft high all the time (although that helps – but the Royals draft high too!) Its that they traded mediocre vets who were not part of the future – Aubrey Huff, Mark Hendrickson, Danys Baez, Lance Carter – and got young guys with upside who turned out to be really good – Ben Zobrist, Dioner Navarro, Edwin Jackson.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
The other lesson here is that trading veterans for prospects works even if the return is not a blue chip prospect who rates in Baseball America’s Top 25. Buying low applies to prospects too. Jackson was a former elite prospect who struggled in adjusting to the minors, and the Dodgers prematurely lost patience with him. Navarro was a product of the Yankees hype machine, but still had solid underlying skills. Zobrist was not a top prospect but had put up some interesting numbers in the minors. Not every prospect is going to develop, but that is why you buy in bulk.
The bonus to trading the veterans (or not signing them in the first place) is that it opens up playing time for younger players and projects like Carlos Pena to develop. The Royals should be trying to find the next Nelson Cruz or even the next Marlon Byrd, but instead keep playing Guillen and Jacobs.
by Gopherballs on Jul 20, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But what about the veteran grit you'll be missing out on?
If all else fails, stop using all else
by ksuroyals on Jul 20, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the indians
getting Carlos Santana for Casey Blake.
Or Asdrubal Cabrera and Choo for whatever it was they traded away.
by wildthang on Jul 20, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They got each of those guys for half of their B/DH platoon
of Ben Broussard and Eduaro Perez . Who were sort of like Jacobs and Guillen. Except cheaper. And better.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody like a
Kila, perhaps?
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 20, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, who wins?
Allard’s 2005 off-season: Mientkiewicz, Grudzielanek, Bako, Elarton
Moore’s 2008 off-season: Crisp, Jacobs, HoRam, Farnsworth, Waechter
Unless I'm wrong...
by Top Ramen on Jul 20, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Allard -- it's not even close
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially if you accept that DM is not under the same spending restraints.
by stuckinstl12 on Jul 20, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT DAYTON HAS TO PAY PLAYERS TWICE AS MUCH TO PLAY IN KANSAS CITY
Unless I'm wrong...
by Top Ramen on Jul 20, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
d'oh... I was going to post the numbers... Elarton was truly horrible
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's closer than I thought
but don’t have time to run the numbers at the moment
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least it was fun to watch him get annhilated
with no hope whatsoever.
by wildthang on Jul 20, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, it wasn't that close
The columns are Player, WAR, VALUE in million $, then Salary. It’s all from Fangraphs. I could have been more precise by taking out the 0.4 replacement salary, or adjusting for Jacobs’ arb value… but you’ll get he idea
Allard 2006:
Player WAR VAL SAL SURPLUS
Grudz 2.6 $9.6 $4.0 $5.6
Dougie 1.3 $5.0 $1.9 $3.1
Elarton -0.8 -$3.0 $4.0 -$7.0
Bako -0.5 -$1.9 $0.7 -$2.6
Total 2.6 9.7 10.6 -0.9
Dayton 2009:
Dayton 2008-09 WAR VAL SAL SURPLUS
Crisp 1.2 $5.4 $5.8 -$0.4
Jacobs 0 -$0.2 $3.3 -$3.5
HoRam 0 -$1.0 $1.8 -$2.8
Farnsworth 0.4 $1.7 $4.3 -$2.6
Waechter -0.1 -$0.4 $0.6 -$1.0
Total 1.5 5.5 15.69 -10.19
So allard’s up about about $9M (before adjustingn for salary inflation, which someone else can do). But we aren’t done…what about losing Nunez and Ramirez?
Nunez 0.1 $0.4 $0.4 $0.0
RamRam 0.4 $1.8 $0.4 $1.4
Total 0.5 2.2 0.8 1.4
That bring’s Dayton’s total (and remember this is only halfway through the yera… so these guys can accumulate even more value— can he catch Allard?) is at about -$11.6M vs. Allard’s -$1.0M.
And, of cours,e this ignores Mike Jacobs being in his first year of arb, which makes his contract more like $7M.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't understand why Baird brought in Bako
just made no sense, and yet, dude is still playing…
by royalsreview on Jul 20, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and fg doesn't have catcher defense
I don’t think that’s very good, either…
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by devil_fingers on Jul 20, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn -- we are losing value on every transaction.
We will have to make it up with volume.
by Black and Gold on Jul 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I vote for Baird (shudder)
When you look at the players and cash Dayton gave up in order to bring in the Moore Five, his 2008 off-season was more destructive than Baird’s 2005 off-season.
by Black and Gold on Jul 20, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was so excited when I heard we signed Grud and Mient-however-you-spell-it. How young and naive I was back then.
by WhenWillDavidGlassDie? on Jul 20, 2009 2:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm not familar with all of the free agent compensation rules
But does this mean we get to claim Mauer?
And, more importantly, if we get Mauer, will Hillman start him over Olivo?
by Black and Gold on Jul 20, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C is a power position
and even though he has a decent number of homers this year and competed in the HR derby, he still doesn’t have the pure power that Olivo provides.
Maybe we can hire him as our AAA bullpen catcher.
by wildthang on Jul 20, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mauer has terrible lateral movement
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his arm does not rival Miggy's
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by buddyball on Jul 20, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Regarding the compensatory pick that we would have gotten. Does that come from the team picking him up or is it simply an extra draft pick granted by MLB? If it comes from the team, it clearly again demonstrates how Minnesota is simply smarter than the Royals – as always.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's from the team, right?
That’s why the Royals didn’t have a 2nd pick this year because they signed Cruz.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 20, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure it would be a sandwich pick
Grudz was a Type B free agent, so all you get is a sandwich pick in between rounds one and two, no team has to forfeit a pick.
Cruz was a Type A pick, meaning we were supposed to forfeit our first round pick for him – except the first 15 picks are protected, so we had to give up our second round pick instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Draft#Compensatory_Picks
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should read:
Gload injured
Grudzielanekinjured himself
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
took him out with a tackle that would have gotten him a 15 yard penalty in the NFL
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by buddyball on Jul 20, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Royals, and I love you guys.
I laughed out loud at least four times while reading this post and the comments. Seriously, think about it – if the Royals were good, where would we go to read or write humorous anecdotes and essays on hapless baseball teams that we have an inexplicable emotional attachment to? I don’t have a clue what everyone here is talking about half the time (what the fuck is a WAR), but it always brightens my day.
Rangers, Royals, Raiders, Knicks...the man loves a winner.
by self loather on Jul 20, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
A WAR is the internal struggle we all have as Royals fan
If its a positive number you are happy as a Royals fan. If it’s negative, the season is probably in the shitter
the WAR for www.royalsreview.com is -100,000,000.34 so far this year
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 20, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know IF the Royals are every really good...
and I mean like Boston good, I will be the most unbearable fan in sports. I will scream from the mountains that I was there when it looked the bleakest. Its really the only thing that keeps me being a fan. But if Im like the 85 year old man who died the day before Boston started their comeback vs the Yankees, then I will die a very VERY bitter old man.
Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals
by averagegatsby on Jul 20, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just glad that I'm also a Chiefs fan
So I can be smug and arrogant during that part of each year.
by Black and Gold on Jul 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
reminder: 2-14.
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for bursting my bubble
Now I’m on suicide watch.
by Black and Gold on Jul 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least the Chiefs sorta acknowledge that they have been bad lately
Royals seem to be in denial, especially this year
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Jul 20, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
I think this Chiefs regime truly will be another Renaissance similar to the early Marty/Carl era. Hopefully, though, it will be able to extend the success a few more games in the post season than they ever did.
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember thinking that about GMDM.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jul 20, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did too
but we were all sorely wrong and paid for it once again with our hopes dashed on the rocks, rinse, repeat.
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm not a Chiefs fan though so I'll leave those judgements to AP.
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by Warden11 on Jul 21, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean Royals hopes being dashed. Again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and.....aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 22, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
the Royals have been bringing winning sports to the Truman Sports Complex for 2 years now
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
by BHWick on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a "depends on what the meaning of is is" type of thing?
Fuck This Team. Period.
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by kabrink on Jul 20, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
Many of the visiting teams have been quite competent.
by hunter s. royal on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hat tip
to Grudz. He was a real pro. Hope he does well in the future. He’s not that old and there are a lot of crappy players in this league whose job he could take. Like say about half our team right now.
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by Juancho on Jul 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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