Guillen out 6-8 Weeks
More Maier... or hopefully Teahen in RF
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more excuses for GMDM to lean on
… that’s all we need
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by CollininCalifornia on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
ironically
although it will be an excuse ,
I mean, oh boy, no one’s making excuses, but boy,
the Royals sure have had a lot of injuries to key contributors
Injuries suck, and people shouldn’ wish physical harm on atheltes or anyone just for being bad at their job. But the Royals are probably better off as a team not having to run Guillen out there.
I mean, d’oh, there goes the playoffs!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 23, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i was just considering that myself
are the Royals bigger fools for paying him $12M for doing nothing or to stink up the field and lineup?
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by CollininCalifornia on Jul 23, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll ask anyway (somebody will know)- is there an easy way to project a position player's future WAR?
I’ll use Billy Butler as my example, according to Fangraphs BB is at 1.1 WAR for this season. Call it 1.5 for the season. Would saying he is a 2.0 for next year be completely out of line?
He can get 4, NOT 5.
yes, there are ways to do it.
I’ve messed with doing my own super-crude projections for fun, and Sky from BtBS suggested I develop a spreadsheet for mapping out career trajectories… Not t here yet. I’ll have ot think about it.
Generic Aging curves work decently for one-year projections, but the further along you go, the less accurate they’ll be.
Maybe I’ll mess around a bit tonight and see what I can come up with. Butler’s 23 now, right (I mean his age on July 1, 2009)? So you’d expect about 3-4 more years of offensive growth…
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 23, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
"accurate" should probably be replaced with "reliable"
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 23, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for replying, but too late.
I played around with Sky’s trade value calculator, that’s why I was asking. Let me know if any of them are way off and I can edit the numbers.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
okay... didn't read your post yet
instead of screwing with my own projection system stuf, I just took CHONE’s 6-eyar projections. I used those (although they’re neutralized numbers) to generate wOBAs for Billy from 2010-2014. I assumed a run environment close to this season’s (about a .330 wOBA. I also used a generic replacement level. Intead of worry about his fielding too much, I assumed he was a bad defenisve 1B — about -5 as average. I assumed 85% playing time.
here are the numbers I came up with for each season:
2010 2.1
2011 2.3
2012 2.6
2013 2.5
2014 2.3
I’ll post these on the other thread if you want.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 23, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry about the playoffs
this just gives Dayton the additional urgency to complete the Kila for Willy Taveras trade.
Unless I'm wrong...
Funny, just checked my reader and this was the first line showed:
That pop that Jose Guillen felt in his knee turned out to be as serious as the Royals feared.
Feared? I’m definitely not happy that a player was hurt, but I can’t believe they “feared” this.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
I'm surprised that the didn't send JoGui out there for another 30 or so ABs at DH
before shutting him down
Unless I'm wrong...
Surgeon General Schwartz told him it would be okay if he wanted to do that
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by buddyball on Jul 23, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they did plan to rest him the other night,
but then when the game was rained out, they played him in both legs of the next day’s doubleheader
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he needed work
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 24, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
apparently the injury was so horrendous that the MLB had to create a whole new list to put Guillen on
the Disbaled list. Wonder if John Bale knows he’s being disrespected like this! lol
Do They Even
Run spellcheck? I don’t think “disbaled” is a word. I have seen “scared matrimony” in the local paper, and when I asked them if they even read these things (it was a guest editorial by a wannabe Dr. Laura type) they said no, we just run spellcheck.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 23, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
who says scared matrimony isn't the proper phrase?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 23, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not Me
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
We Won't Have
Hoagy to kick around for the rest of the year; damn.
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can't wait to see
Teahen at 1st, Butler at DH, and Freel in RF against RHP while Mike Jacobs ponders where he wants to play next year
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
While watching Jose hobble out in right field was aggrevating
I will miss his theoretical power in the lineup. I mean, he at least had a chance of hitting one out every once in a while.
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by buddyball on Jul 23, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"theoretical power"
that’s awesome. Almost Hillman-esque in its glory
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinetic Energy
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess it's the swan song for my Jose pictures
Goodnight, sweet prince.
SHOMER SHABBOS!
by ratherfantastic on Jul 23, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO, Really
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, guys, this REALLY sucks
6 to 8 weeks is less than two months.
by Black and Gold on Jul 23, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we have like 9 weeks left in this season too
see you next year Hosey
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yeah. :)
Sorry for your injury Jogui…
Did it say what he was doing when he got hurt?
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Brushing His Teeth
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
According to Rotoworld, you're not far off
He actually tore a ligament in his knee while putting on his shin guard. The irony is fantastic.
by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 24, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a coverup! They can't get their stories straight!
I’m assuming is was one of Trey’s secret “massages” that caused the problem
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 24, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Not A Process,
THE PROCESS.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
We called up MITCH
I can’t wait for more of his .280 OBP antics. Incredibly, he is an improvement over Guillen WAR-wise because of his defense. They’re both negative WAR players; MITCH is just LESS negative. He’s probably making league minimum or just above it. Jose made $12M this year and will make $12M next year to be a full win worse according to WAR. Oop, just threw up a little bit there.
At least MITCH has some plate discipline. If he can get his pathetic average up a bit he will end up being a league average player. He’s been BABIP unlucky so far at .274, so he’s due for some regression to the mean. All the projections have him OBPing anywhere between .310 and .333, and I guess I could stomach that considering his glove is average or a little above (making him the best defender on this abortion of a team not named David DeJesus).
by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 24, 2009 3:45 AM EDT reply actions
Addendum
Jose Guillen was the least valuable position player in MLB according to Fangraphs. Talk about addition by subtraction.
by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 24, 2009 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
someone should explain this to GMDM
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 24, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how they come up wit ---------------ah, forget it.
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 24, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Teahen will get most starts at RF
Now that Gordon is back.
Teahen’s WAR is 1.5 so far
Pecota, watch over us.
It will be interesting to see how they play that.
Right now, nothing will surprise me.
Freel/Maier in right with Teahen at 1st wouldn’t shock me at all.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
Jakers Rides The
Pine.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Andy:Addition by subtraction.
Michael: What does that even mean? That is impossible.
Andy: Mmmm. Yeah you’re right.
Michael: But, there is some good news. Oscar is back. Addition by addition
there was an article in today's Omaha World Herald on Scott Thorman
and how he is playing well, can play OF, 3rd and 1st (sounds like a certain T-bag). Why didn’t they call him up? He has the Bravest background…
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Thorman
I don’t think that he is on the 40 man roster. We’d probably have to DFA one of our many awesome players in order to add him and call him up.
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by aHorseWithNoName on Jul 24, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to look up his stats so I could use them in a snarky post
But if they translated at all to the MLB level, they would really help the team. He’s hitting .291/.350/.900 with 15 HR for Omaha. He’s also decent with the glove in LF and 1B, or he was in 2006 and 2007 for the Braves.
The two years he was in the majors, he hit .234 and .216, but had an absurdly low BABIP both years—.245 and .248 respectively. You know you’re in dire straits if you find yourself wishing for Scott Thorman, but I wouldn’t mind seeing if he could do something for us. He couldn’t be any worse than what we’ve been running out there, he’s put up an OPS of .800 or higher 6 times in the minors, and hasn’t had nearly enough AB’s in the majors to make a definitive decision on how good he is.
Give him a shot. What the hell do we have to lose besides more baseball games?
by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 24, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course,
should Thorman succeed, Moore would claim that it’s “part of the process,” even though he never would get playing time without injuries to others. Not that I’m saying he will succeed.
the article implied that he has a really good arm also
I wouldn’t mind having another strong arm in the outfield.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
neither would Treyton Hillmoore
because
good arm > good defense
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Thorman is basically Mitch Maier
except he plays first base
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 24, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i.e.,
he’s Ross Gload
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 24, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
so, what's not to love about that????
will have to alert other players on the field with him, though…
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Correct me if I am wrong
But don’t MLB teams take out insurance policies on their contracts, so if a player does get hurt and misses a large chunk of the season, they get some $$ from an insurance policy?
I remember that being a hot topic in the Sweeney days…
BOOM! ROASTED!
I thought I had read insurance companies stopped doing that
After one was burned with the Albert Belle deal.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Surely AIG finds that to be a non-risky way to make $$ still?
They never take wildly irresponsible financial risks that lead to the demise of the Western world!
BOOM! ROASTED!
CDS, Baby! 35-1!
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by philofthenorth on Jul 24, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
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