Billy Butler's Five Hits Lead Royals Past Orioles
This is how it was all supposed to be, right? Billy Butler and Alex Gordon with seven hits combined, a passable start by one of Dayton's ex-Braves, and a Soria save. Trust the process.
Baseball's a weird game. A game started by Bruce Chen and an absolutely incapable Rich Hill was tied 3-3 in the 7th inning. Through the first three innings, neither pitcher looked like they belonged in AA, but neither offense was quite able to make them pay.
- Billy Butler had five hits tonight, and it wasn't a Willie Bloomquist 5-5 either. Butler drove in St. Willie twice, and started the doubles rampage in the third inning. Perhaps the game could be taken as a crystallization of what Butler is, and can still be. Everyone's still a little confused as to why he hasn't shown more power, but as a pure hitter, there's something to those old Manny Ramirez comparisons you used to hear.
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Can you imagine if we won a lot of games?
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Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
actually no... No I can not
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
With Meche still being an unknown, it definitely could.
Although Sir Sidney threw decent, too.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
This just in: Josh Willingham has 8 RBI on two Grand Slams
vs. the Brew Crew.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 27, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
damn, that's going to cut into Billy's time on
Baseball Tonight.
Although, I don’t watch it at all anymore. Does anyone watch BBTN?
He can get 4, NOT 5.
i do sometimes
since i don’t get MLB network
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get MLB Network either,
but I normally catch the Sportscenter in the mornings.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
ESPN News
is pretty much the only programming I can stand on that network anymore.
by hippdoghipp on Jul 27, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was the...
…last Royal to have a 5-hit game in a winning cause? …I don’t know the answer; I’m hoping someone here does. – TL
Teahen had a 5 hit game not to long ago
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
here ya go
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX200904170.shtml
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
can't wait until the next home stand
we’re playing Seattle and Oakland, so we can finally see if our offense is worse than Seattle’s and Oakland’s
I think we’re better than Seattle in runs per game and better than Oakland in BA/OBP/SLG
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That will be a slew of 1-0 and 2-1 games
with 3 or 4 errors combined. It will be riveting.
Oh yeah
hope Mike Sweeney makes it to that series. He’s apparently not on the DL.
.254/.305/.392 line right now. He’s narrowly worse than Junior in OPS.
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He is oddly Superior and yet, oddly inferior to Jacobs
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
hope Wakamatsu actually lets Sweeney start a game outside of a doubleheader (unlike what happened last year). Between Sweeney and Griffey, there’ll be a bit too much applause for the other guys than usual
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As long as everyone cheers for Sweeney this time,
I was embarrassed when there were a few boos the first time they were in KC.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wait
did I black out in April or something? I didn’t know the Mariners played here this year
BTW, Beltran still hasn’t played in KC in 5 years. Idk how that return would go over.
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How could you forget that?
It was the last series we won vs a non-NL team!
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Sweeney wasn't announced this year
Last year w/ the A’s he was announced and it was a dissapointing mixture of smart folk (applause) and morons (boos)
BOOM! ROASTED!
why does he deserve our applause anymore than Jogui does?
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
aside from 1000+ more hits, 170+ more HRs
Jose Guillen does a lot to enhance your appreciation of Mike Sweeney
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my only thing is...
if EVERYONE is going to hate on Jogui for vastly under performing his contract, then the same should apply for Sweeney.
I dont hate sweeney, but I dont have any particularly awesome feelings about him. He was a key cog for years of shitty baseball….baseball made even shittier by his complete inability to stay on the field or perform while he was able to take the field.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
his stats over the 5 year deal
.284/.353/.476, 74 HR, 110 doubles, 470 games
Now, the first three years were .294/.361/.497, 59 HRs, 80 doubles, 336 games
Sweeney’s OPS+ was over 100 in 4 of 5 years, and it was pretty good for the first 3 years.
Guillen’s OPS+ so far was 96 and 84.
And in the scheme of things, Sweeney in 03-05 was the difference between a winning year and a losing one (in 03) and the difference between historically bad and completely bad (04-05)
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by BHWick on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not saying it's worth $55M
but if you use percentages, Guillen’s deal has 1 year to exceed the delivered value of Sweeney’s deal
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All JoGui has to do do make his deal a good one
is deliver all the value in one season. Now, the Royals paid for about 7.5 WAR. He was about So far, he’s been abou -1.5 WAR.
So all he has to do is be a 9.0 WAR player in 2010!
For comparison, the best position player in WAR according to FanGraphs in 2008 was:
Albert Pujols, 2008: 8.9 WAR
It’s do-able
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 27, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
how many WAR below expected value was Sweeney in his contract?
im assuming that the cost/WAR was lower a few years ago, meaning sweeney underperformed by even more than you’d think.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweeney might be my least favorite...
simply b/c he couldnt stay healthy and his fucking ridiculous contract cost us a legitimately good player in Beltran…and I really used to like Davey until he started this bullshit getting picked off all the time, lobbing the ball in, ducking every time he hits the warning track (catch a few days ago excluded), etc.
My favorites all time are Beltran, Bo, Cone, Joe Randa and Zack
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, honest answer.
But you don’t really think Sweeney cost the Royals Beltran? He was gone either way.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
There were reports that the Royals were only a couple million short per year....
on I believe a 5 year deal….i’ll see if i can find where that was reported
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
mostly i just dont understand why sweeney is for some reason defied in this town...
the dude had a couple of pretty good years and got paid extremely well for like 7 years….his career value is pretty equal to 1 year of pujols…and possibly zack in 2009…
he’s been 1/3 as valuable as fucking JD Drew…and JD Drew is hated in every city taht he’s ever played in. Yet, Sweeney is universally beloved. Why?
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the comparisons you make have nothing to do with Sweeney
What does JD Drew have to do with Mike Sweeney’s time in KC?
Sweeney was easily the best player the Royals had as a face of the franchise for about a decade. Beltran was obviously better but with management being the way it was, we couldn’t keep both. In a very crappy time for the Royals, he was here the whole time, producing when he was healthy. I’ll go ahead and assume that you aren’t a person who is empathic of athletes who just can’t seem to stay healthy but many people are (myself included).
This is just a couple of reasons I think most Royals fans have don’t have any ill feelings to the guy.
I’d also like to throw out there that you should maybe be a little more angry with the managment and ownership of that time period than Mike Sweeney. If they were worth a damn we could’ve kept another couple players in: Damon, Dye, Beltran, or Ibanez and then maybe got some decent players for the other 2 instead of Neifi Perez.
I don’t love Mike Sweeney or anything by any means, I just don’t get why people would boo the guy, I guess.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 28, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
the problem is...
sweeney didnt really produce even when healthy….which was rare….
IMO if Sweeney deserves all of this respect, then so does guillen. They’re two guys who shouldnt have gotten the contract that they did and both vastly underproduced….hell, at least guillen goes out and plays almost every game
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 28, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty obvious why
Sweeney is treated a little differently than Jose. A little thing called “personality”.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
what do we really know about jose?
That it really bothers him that we’re losing? That he wants nothing more to be on the field…even if aching….those are the personality traits that i like…moreso than church attendance….and a guy that charges the mound and uses a weapon to attack a defenseless pitcher hardly strikes me as a great character trait…
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd disagree, he had some damn good years
on pretty shitty teams. Now yes, it didn’t last, but I don’t see how you can compare Sweeney’s numbers in KC with Guillens. Plus, Sweeney came up with the Royals, why would Guillen ( a free agent signing) get the same love as Sweeney?
Mike Sweeney:
’99: .322, .387, .520, .907
’00: 333 .407 .523 .930 (29 HR, 144 RBIzzz, great even if you hate RBI
’01: .304 .374 .542 .916
’02: .340 .417 .563 .979
’03: .293 .391 .467 .858
I went ahead and included ‘03, the first year he played less than 120 games. This is definitely the year where the injuries started to catch up to him. ’04 and ’05 are not even awful either, he just could only play about 100 games. I just don’t see where you look at those numbers, 4 years of OPS over .900 and really believe that Jose Guillen’s KC career can sniff Mike Sweeney’s. I know this is sad for the Royals organization but Sweeney is top 5 in about every Royals offensive category for their career.
Look, I don’t think I’m going to convince you which is fine, I just would like an explanation of why you dislike someone so much for getting hurt? I never saw the guy be a bitch about it either, he always tried to come back and could never seem shake the back injuries (anyone whose had back problems knows it is a nagging thing). I guess our awesome training staff couldn’t get him healthy, big surprise.
Anyways, I’d like to hear a logical reasoning and maybe I’ll change my tune a little.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 28, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont hate him....
like i said, i wouldnt boo him when he comes back, but I just dont get the reverence for him. He was a good hitter for a few years and then he massively (more massively than Jogui) underachieved in his big contract….inuries or not…underachieving is underachieving….paralyzing our franchise is paralyzing our franchise….costing us beltran is sweeney’s legacy to me
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll never know what beltran wouldve done....
if $55 million was added to the 3 yr/25 million that was a documented offer from the royals before the 2003 season
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 28, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
then Beltran would’ve wasted away here….Besides, Boras was NOT having Beltran stay in KC, big market or bust
by I need more Esteban on Jul 29, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
i cant find any verification...
so its just based on my recollection….but i dont feel like beltran signed with boras until right before his FA
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Remind me again why Pujols isn't on the Royals.
….never mind.
Fuck This Team. Period.
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If you aren't making fun of me (or even if you are)
I wrote an introduction no WAR for position players for using the 2009 Royals here.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry....
im not going to give sweeney a standing ovation for walking away with $55 million for 5 WAR…i dont really care if he was a nice guy…he sucked ass relative to his contract
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweeney $15.3 million of value for $55 million in salary....
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
True,
but he could have easily taken the Damon, Beltran, whoever else route and just walked out of town. Hindsight says that would have been good for KC, but at the time him staying was a huge deal for KC.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
at the very least
if we would have known of the back injury thing.. we could have just given him 3 or 4 years
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Park adjusted wOBA* says the Royals are worse than either Seattle or Oakland so far this season
and that sounds about right to me… but but without Holliday, Oakland is probably a bit worse.
I think Seattle is easily better. So far, of course, Ichiro! Branyan, and Gutierrez have been better than anyone on the Royals (well, after tonight, Butler may be equal to Gutierrez). Going forward I’d expect Branyan to regress, but still be better than anyone on the Royals, with Ichiro being as about good a hitter as the Royals best hitters and Gutierrez being about the same as DDJ for the rest of the season (offensively speaking). Long story short for the restof the season: Branyan > Butler; Ichirco > Teahen; Gutierrez= DDJ, Langerhans = Callaspo, and the rest of the Royals pretty much suck (who knows with Gordon).
Langerhans isn’t a good hitter, but he’s not terrible — so I’d rather have him than the guys on the Royals parade of crap.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 27, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though the Royals won, I do have to ask
why wasn’t he used against the Rangers? His outing against the Angels really buried him.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
This was pointed out to me
The Royals are 8-3 when Olivo draws a walk or gets hit by a pitch.
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Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
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by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it's RR!
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 27, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess this gif is a keeper then
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop the presses...
I can’t believe that no one has mentioned the most amazing fact about today’s game.
The fact that Tejeda pitched 3 innings allowing only one baserunner.
Indians ceding fourth place to us
They dealt Ryan Garko to the Giants for a minor leaguer.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Wooooo....Bruce Chen!
Big fan of the 2-3-4 hitters tonight: Callaspo – Butler – Teahen. (Maybe flip the 3/4 though)
Put DeJesus at the 1 spot and Gordon at the 5 spot, and you’ve got a decent top 5.
Unless I'm wrong...>
My Twitter feed
that is...
a decent top 5 in theory
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
maybe it will be so tomorrow. Or maybe Trey will just move Wee Willie back to 2 and it’ll be back to normal
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's amazing what happens when the JoGui goes on the DL
Trey’s not “stuck” leaving him in the 4 or 5 spot.
Side note: Is Mike Jacobs still alive? Has he been benched for good to prevent confusion in the clubhouse?
Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed
Maybe he's a better motivational leader on the bench
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
*emotional leader
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Jul 27, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He should be starting tomorrow
but I can’t wait to see Bloomquist batting second and Buck at DH
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
That h e isn't paying again RHP is completely stupid
a fittingly joint condemnation of how bad both Trey and Dayton are at their jobs
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
its Crazy when Hilldawg
uses such a ludicrous lineup… Then it works.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 27, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
it will embolden him
to have a bloomy/freel/betancourt 1-2-3
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously the Yuniefi Berroacourt experiment is going to end
and TPJ will return as a shortstop soon
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Did I detect
Ryan L falling deeply into love with Berroacourt tonight? Yes, why yes I did.
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don't tell TPJ
the guy has enough problems right now without hearing that he got dumped
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wow really?
It hasn’t seemed that bad with what little I’ve watched, ouch
by I need more Esteban on Jul 28, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
But how is his lateral movement?
If you can’t understand that, then Dayton just doesn’t have time to educate you.
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BamBam
5-5 Nice !!! Not much power? He is only 23 and on pace for 51 doubles and 16 Home Runs. As he ages some of those doubles will turn into home runs you would think.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Appreciate the post-game Will
I only watched part of the game because it’s hard for me to watch entire games these days but after I saw Billy was 5-5 I had to come by, nice to see a write up after a win. I’m sure you’ve missed it as well.
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Looking around D2 stats led me to look up someone.
Millender was a perfect 45-45 in stolen base attempts in 2009. He batted .356 and led UNA in runs scored with 60 while driving in 24 runs. He was selected to the All-South Region by Daktronics and the American Baseball Coaches Association.
(…)
While enjoying his first season of summer ball, Millender is also trying to catch the eye of professional teams. And it seems he has done that. The outfielder had a tryout with the Kansas City Royals on Saturday morning.
"I’m not really nervous," Millender said the day before the tryout. "I’ve got an attitude of where I just take it one day at a time and just take it as it comes."
Should Millender not get a chance to play professional baseball, he said he’d go back to school and finish his degree.
"I guess I’d just have to finish up school," he said. "I only have like eight hours left for my accounting major. I’d go into the business world."
Kansas City Royals… or accounting…. hmmm
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Let's do both *slams beer on table*
He could work for the Royals in the front office being a numbers guy with whats-his-name and that-guy-who-brings-dayton-coffee
by sterlingice on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals will change their uniforms for him and Banny
They will add a front pocket so they can wear a pocket protector.
Kansas City Royals… or accounting…. hmmm
Of course, it depends which process you trust more.
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