Mysteriously, Royals Acquire Josh Anderson on Trade Deadline Eve
What is there left to say at this point?
Dayton's the most reliable man in baseball right now. We started making jokes about his position player ideas two years ago, and the hits just keep on coming. As the cliche goes, it would be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
Many will want to believe that the Anderson trade signals some future move to come. Of course, the same thing was said about the Ryan Freel acquisition. I guess the upside of this move is that tomorrow morning, we get to wake up and read about a terrible Mark Teahen or David DeJesus trade. I hear Pete Orr has really turned the corner in AAA.
Yes, Anderson is a minor move, a minor player in a mythical rebuild. Yes, he's free. He's also a reflection of the same broken model, the same process of player overevaluation and tools worship that's done nothing to lift the Royals out of the cellar. We're now in year three of Dayton's quixotic quest to solve a problem that doesn't exist, his hunt for an old-school patented "speedy centerfielder". And of course, he's a failed former Brave. Like Moore.
Moore says he doesn't understand defensive statistics -- which would tell him that just sticking Maier in CF and DDJ in LF and getting ready for 2010 is the simplest thing to do if he really wants defense -- but that's a bit of a trick on his part. His real aim appears to be building his defense around Baseball Tonight "web gems" and steals. Go figure.
The seasons change, we grow older, the offense grows worse. One day, Dayton will run out of sub-.300 OBP guys to acquire. Until then, I guess we only have the option of making hay while the sun shines.
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Consider this your Trade Deadline Eve Open Thread.
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So you're not looking forward
To a lineup that includes Josh Anderson, Willie Bloomquist, Mitch Maier, Mike Jacobs, Ryan Freel, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Tug Hulett?
They may not win any games but goddamnit they’ll look good doing it and will play very hard
by Royal from Queens on Jul 30, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tug doesnt fit in that group....
he’d definitely OBP higher t han 300
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and how did Olivo not make that list?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary thought:
I’m pretty sure Tug is the best player on that list
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
I’m not sure why we’d get Freel and then go get this guy… Oh well…
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by 306008 on Jul 30, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Dayton has to see a guy play everyday, to realize how much he sucks.
since you can’t trust those statistics.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
supposedly somebody's interested in willie...
and if we trade banny now, I might go ballistic.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/brian-bannister-drawing-interest.html
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa when i saw this as a headline
i thought it was a joke. in fact, i’ve always thought the ex-brave thing was just “hahahaha oh that’s a coincidence, the guy likes ex-braves hahaha”.
he really does mostly just like ex-braves though. wow.
by kevinf on Jul 30, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Tube Sock on a Stick
The Perfect Storm for a GMDM signing has arrived!!!!!!!!!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-release-jeff-bennett.html
A Former Brave that likes to punch things after he shows his suckiness on the field!
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I blame Andruw Jones - he of the oddly spelled first name.
When the Braves were the shiznit they had a young golden glove rockstar version of Jones. Perhaps that is Dayton Moore’s hangup.
by Uscbalto on Jul 30, 2009 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
which would be worse?
making a bad move with Teahen or DDJ or making no move?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 30, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did you mean "I'd rather have process than action"?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 30, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Making a bad move w/ Bannister
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no actual baseball reason to trade DDJ
he’s cheap, he’s under contract, he’s good
teahen… it all depends on the deal
by royalsreview on Jul 30, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh...
Jayson Stark and Buster Olney of ESPN.com report that the Yankees inquired about Bannister, but talks didn’t develop because the Yankees asked the Royals to pay the $650k that remains on Bannister’s 2009 contract. Since when does $650k stop the Yanks from making a deal? As Stark and Olney say, welcome to the wacky world of baseball 2009.
Gotta be kidding me.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i probably woulda told them to F off too
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by slayor on Jul 30, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're also talking to the M's about Washburn...
I’d want the same for Banny. Maybe more because of the salary difference.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that and the whole not a free agent till 20?? thing
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by slayor on Jul 30, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
among other reasons
injury history, age, intelligence, etc.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
If they were offering #1 & 2 prospects in return…
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But isn't the Yankees number 1 and 2 prospects
a bag of big league chew and
a bucket of used balls?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not anymore
Cashman has some good talent coming up. Not like they did in the early 90’s (Jeter, Williams, Mariano, etc) but not void of talent like they were in the early ’00s
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of it is on the lower levels, though, right?
I’m not sure what I think of Austin Jackson, but no way they’d give him up for banny, right?
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend from Detroit says this
He’s fast. Very fast. The games he’s played he’s been good. Drives in some runs… gets distracted by the crowd easily. Not a good thing. He wears his socks up. That’s good. Hmmm… not sure what else to say….
So there you go. Words from Detroit. Reaching for stuff to say… lol
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by 306008 on Jul 30, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He then said, "he will add a new dynamic to your team."
And then he said the Royals suck.
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by 306008 on Jul 30, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
won't have to worry about the crowd distraction any more.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Until the cardinals come to town
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by royaldaddy on Jul 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Until the cardinals come to town
Yes, I'm still alive. Sorry to disappoint you.
by royaldaddy on Jul 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ominous
Kila not in O-Royals lineup tonight.
by Toothpick on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how that could be a bad thing.
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
He’s about to get traded with Bannister to Yanks for Bubba Crosby and Kevin Maas
by Toothpick on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't it "Graig" Nettles?
My brother has this problem. His name is Graig, but his own grandpa still calls him Craig every once in a while.
by AxDxMx on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure he doesn't call your brother "Nancy"?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well done sir
Obviously, you are not a golfer.
by Kyled85 on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still mad I bought a bunch
of Kevin Maas Rookie cards when I was a kid :(
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are worth more
Than the Hamelin and Berroa rookies…
by Toothpick on Jul 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you're kidding
but there’s no way we deal Kila. Who’d want him?
by Bart41 on Jul 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A smart team?
Just not the Royals apparently. We like to pay guys about $3M a year to do less than what Kila could do.
by AxDxMx on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Kila's coming up to KC?
Nah, never mind, we’ve still got Jacobs awesome bat.
by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still somewhat hopeful
That Jacobs will be released on September 1, since we will (hopefully) not be offering him arbitration next year, and that KK gets 50-100 AB’s in September w/ the Big Club.
Now, I am HOPEFUL of that, I’m not expecting it.
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other news... The Pirates keep trading people...
and wasn’t Tom Gorzelanny suppose to be really good?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but they got a decent arm in return + 2 others
Ascanio was the Cubs #6 prospect going into the season according to BA…#9 according to Sickels
http://www.royalsreview.com/2009/7/29/968613/shouldnt-we-be-doing-what-the
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long until Dayton brings in Russ Ortiz?
It’s only a matter of time.
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by royaldaddy on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
seriously though
Dayton isn’t bad with pitchers (started great) but with position players… huge dropoff
by royalsreview on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Mike Hampton available?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats why im hoping...
completely optimistically, but still hoping… that the few good bats we do have in the minors ( Moose, Hosmer, Bianchi, Parraz, Kila) plus billy and alex can give us an average offense in a year or two, because with Dayton I do believe we will always have pretty good pitching (with the exception of this years bullpen).
zack greinke for cy young
by LimaTime10 on Jul 30, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems to have some good pitching scouts
but he still doesn’t really value them properly — see all the blown money on the bullpen
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and we have another candidate for the "He said what" award
Trey Hillman said this about pitching Chen tomorrow
"We’re going stay in order with Chen," Hillman said. "A lefty against Tampa Bay is a better matchup. They’re not as stealthy
http://www.kansascity.com/116/story/1354993.html?storylink=omni_popular
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about this list?
At least we got TWO Royals on it.
http://www.rotoauthority.com/2009/07/pitcher-abuse-points.html
by Uscbalto on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gil Meche wasn't a surprise...
but it is a little shocking to see of all people Hiram on that list.
Perhaps Boston doesn’t want to trade for Halladay because he has been abused.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Jul 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"No actual baseball reason to trade DDJ"
How about “He’s 29 and not likely to improve?”
If you can make a good deal, you move average players who are going to decline in quality
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
by BHWick on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's not headed to a cliff either
he’s underrated by GM, which means the trade would probably be selling pretty low
looking at his contract info, I can see merit either way to trading him:
09:$3.6M, 10:$4.7M, 11:$6M club option ($0.5M buyout)
by royalsreview on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm
we may not have Guillen, Teahen, or DeJesus in 2011
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
by BHWick on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May meaning "Won't"
idk what Teahen might earn in 2011, but there’s no way that we pick up a $6M option on a 31 year old DDJ unless he has one of the latest breakout years possible
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
by BHWick on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus isnt a great player, but he's also not part of the problem
he’s probably been the team’s best position player for the last three years (which does say something about the royals, to be sure)
by royalsreview on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but his trade value also may never be higher
leaving aside Moore’ s “limitations” in recognizing player value (which we do implicitly whenever we speculate on what he “should” do, rather than what he is likely to do, which is about the only way not to get depressed immediately at the moment), DDJ is more valuable the more time is left on his team-friendly contract, and the earlier he is traded, the more of his good performance years the receiving team will be getting.
The team won’t be contending during the life of the contract, except maybe an outside shot at 2011, when DDJ will still likely be worth the money, but just barely.
It depends on what you can get for him — surely other GMs understand what having a ~2.5 WAR player at under $5M is worth.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is where I am really torn
basically, a very large part of me wants the royals to do a complete tear down… trade everyone other than Greinke, Hochevar and Gordon, just go nuts
but, I don’t trust Dayton Moore enough to do this
by royalsreview on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they should be shopping everyone over 27
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea... but then, dayton will have to fill the big league roster with his guys
… which could result in a 50 win team
by royalsreview on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fasho
I guess I’m just going totally utopian
I’m really not sure I’m cut out for this level of intense fandom…
The Jacobs trade was really the “cliff” moment for me with Dayton, but the Bloomquist deal really hammered home that the Royals wouldn’t be winning for a while — almost certainly not with Moore in charge, barring some total miracles (I.E. Greinke putting up another 6+ WAR season in 2010, Hochevar being like Greinke 2008, Meche returning to 2008 form, Banny maintaining, Gordon and Butler both becoming stars, Teahen and DDJ not declining, and, perhaps most improbably, Yuni becoming a 1 WAR player…) That’s when it really sunk in.
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the "miracle" being all those things happening at once
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope this happens.
Meche returning to 2008 form
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Jul 31, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we all do
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by devil_fingers on Jul 31, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy was traded for nothing
He’s better than Maier. All he needs is a .300 OBP to do that.
No reason to kill trades for a player that is just getting a shot for free.
Its not like Betancourt so far he’s sucked and is costing some money. Man this guy looks really bad so far and its annoying I put my ass out there and was getting killed for just saying he’s better than TPJ and he comes here and hits like tpj!
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 31, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, it's personal now with him
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by buddyball on Jul 31, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man...you're coming to your senses faster than i thought you would....
i thought mid august at least
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jul 31, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Anderson is batting .205 this year
against teams that aren’t the Royals. On the bright side he’s hitting .563 at the K.
Baseball's that swingy stick game, right?
by royalsroyalsroyals on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.563 at K?
Now we know why DM got him. He doesn’t realize it’s because the guy was hitting against DM’s own vaunted bullpen. What a dumb fuck.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
by kabrink on Jul 31, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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