Royals keep TPJ, DFA TPJ Jr.

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs

Love the picture at the top of the poster

But I can’t figure out if TPJ is watching an infield pop-up, or if he was swinging so hard at a ball out of the strike zone that he lost control of his head.

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by cbrett42 on Jul 7, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

The TPJ super glue , can not be undone!!!

He must have some sort of black mail stuff against GMDM, or something. Man he can stick like a…..stick…….er….er….

DM s love for TPJ has just shut my brain down, however, if you really think about it. Do the Royals have many other options

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions

Luis was/is better

by Freneau on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

which isn't saying much

unfortunately for everyone involved

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Is TPJ up for arb after the season?

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions

"Royals, Pena settle on $55M/5 deal, avoid arbitration"

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

i thought that was last year

as he would have been a “super 2”.

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions

please don't use the term "super" and relate it in any way to TPJ

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by buddyball on Jul 7, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

super SUCK

Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.

by BillyMojo on Jul 8, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions

is it possible for arbitration to

lower a player’s salary?

of course he can’t make less than the minimum, but you’d have a pretty good case

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Mike Jacobs got paid like a 1.4 WAR player

despite having 1.2 WAR in the three previous years total

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Up to 20% I think

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 7, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

TPJ has embarrasing photographs of Moore

There can be no other explanation but blackmail.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions

I was hoping some kind of bigger trade was being worked out behind that curtain over there. I guess it’s still good to dump a nearly worthless piece. Let’s finish the job by also dumping TPJ and recalling Tug.

Fuck This Team. Period.

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by kabrink on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions

the KC bench has two players with 9 hits in 96 AB

WOW Dayton Moore-ron, you managed to make this team’s offense even worse

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions

you can't seriously be saying

that by acquiring freel and demoting tpj junior that he’s made the offense worse.

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions

5 for 52

Hernandez is 10 for 49

Freel and Hernandez is a tolerable middle IF bench, but Freel and Pena is a god awful middle IF bench

9 fucking hits in 96 AB. Hernandez has 10 hits in 49 AB.

Let’s just say that 15 for 101 and 9 for 96 are slightly different.

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

making any sort of distinction between TPJ and TPJJ is kinda nuts

neither one should be on an MLB roster; the Royals had both. The Royals had TPJs and a MITCH, now they have one TPJ and two MITCHes, except one of the MITCHes is 33 and without the upside of the younger one.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

and I say that with full awareness of what MITCH 1's "upside" is

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

at least Mitch Sr. (by which I mean Freel/Farny) is 100% healthy. who knows how many percent healthy TPJJ was.

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

i have got to start using line breaks

at least Mitch Sr. (by which I mean Freel/Farny) is 100% healthy. <code>who knows how many percent healthy TPJJ was.

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

and previewing my comments

at least Mitch Sr. (by which I mean Freel/Farny) is 100% healthy.

who knows how many percent healthy TPJJ was.

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, "Mitch Sr." is better

MITCH Sr., I mean

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I mean it's a better name

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

and with his apparently diminishing health, he may be more like “MITCH sr. citizen” within a few weeks of working with our staff

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

well atleast Mich sr might get on base

unlike Mitch Jacobs, uh I mean Mitch Maier

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Hernandez can play 3 positions, TPJ plays one position

tiebreaker

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

If a guy can play SS, he can play any other position

other than maybe catcher

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

That's true, TPJ was lights out in relief last year...his pitching prowess explains it all.

by Royal Revival on Jul 7, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

He's not only Bloomy's backup

he’s Jamey Wright insurance, too

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Luis Hernandez is a bad ballplayer

and over time has been an even worse hitter than TPJ.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jul 7, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

But He Sucks

From either side.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 8, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions

So that means we're pretty much stuck with TPJ for the rest of the year

Bloomquist is now the everyday SS to be spelled by TPJ when he needs to sub somewhere else.

by Top Ramen on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions

so we lose Brayan on waivers when Gordon returns?

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I think they probably demote Mitch

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope the they demote Mitch, and keep BPJ

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Probably so, since Freel can "play" CF

and Teahen can backup LF/RF (and probably CF at least as well as Freel can)

by Top Ramen on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions

i assume they'll send down/DFA Guillen

since it's the only logical way to improve the team

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

TEFLON TONY LIVES!

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

can't begrudge him the work

“Teflon Dayton” seems like a good idea, though, given that blame for problems always defelcts off of him onto the Glasses, the manager, the fans, or (my favorite) the players (for whom he apparentlly bears little or no reponsibility. Except when they work out — especially when they work out, even when he didn’t acquire them.)

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Or bloggers.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Jul 7, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Dayton isn't afraid to admit a mistake

by Freneau on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

How is this justifiable?

On any level? Are you fucking kidding me? are you fucking KIDDING ME

HOW
THE
FUCK

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by slayor on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

dayton's brought accountability back to KC

by Freneau on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

'the scholarships are over, we're only letting guys on the roster on merit'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i would love to see the moron try to justify this move… hernandez is a switch hitter, plays more positions, better short stop defense, can hit and wait for it

IS THREE YEARS YOUNGER! unbelievable. just wow.

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by slayor on Jul 7, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

do you have the link for that quote btw?

by Freneau on Jul 7, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

not that exact one, but

"Obviously, the responsibility lies with each individual player to be accountable for being successful."
—Royals GM Dayton Moore

“If we think a player is just going through a down period in their career, you stay with him if you feel that he’s going to be fine over the course of 162 games—and if he has a role on the club. But if you think a guy is done, he’s done.”
—Moore

“I’ve been a firm believer in this: I’m going to make a lot of mistakes. The difference is you can’t continue to make the same mistakes. You’ve got to recognize your mistakes and fix them.”
—Moore (Bob Dutton, Kansas City Star)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6017

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by slayor on Jul 7, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

game of the week imo

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by slayor on Jul 7, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Still have to give Chen props

since he joined the Greinke/Meche “ORder of the screwed by the offense” last week, even if on a much smaller scale.

I predict a big Jacobs hot streak soon, perhaps it started last night. That’s just the way he is. By the end of the streak, his OPS will be up around .800 again… by the end of the season, who knows.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

a big Jacobs hot streak right now would be incredibly good timing

would make it much easier to trade him…though that is probably just wishful thinking

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jul 7, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

yes

sadly, rather than seeing them as opportunities to trade players, Moore seems to see hot streaks as confirmation of their “accustomed level of performance.”

Cf. Guillen, JOse, 2008
Mahay, Ron, 2008
Olivo, Miguel, 2009
Olivo, Miguel, 2008

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Dayton Moore-ron

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

the pena equation

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by slayor on Jul 7, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I think this everytime I see him

But man, Ryan has a HUGE forehead.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

seriously? that isn't photoshopped?

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

it is because he has so many brains up there

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by buddyball on Jul 7, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions

So, when MITCH gets optioned upon Gordon's return

we’re going to have a CF rotation of Ryan Freel and Willie Bloomquist.

Let that sink in for a minute.

Ryan Freel. Willie Bloomquist.

by Top Ramen on Jul 7, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions

I still think we're trading for a shortstop...

and then TPJ may get released. Bloomy as a backup SS/CF along with Freel. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

by RaulDuke on Jul 7, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

What's Real For

You is real.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 7, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

nah

a trade for a SS involves someone on the 25 going away in a trade

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

how is that so horrible?

Freel is better than Mitch Maier, gets on base more as much as Maier and that’s while he’s batting .140

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Ryan Freel 2009 OBP .275
Mitch Maier 2009 OBP .295

Both terrible, but if I had to choose, I’d take the guy who is an actual CF

by Top Ramen on Jul 7, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Stats Schmats

I’ve seen Freel, he is way better!

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions

are you serious?

learn some vocabulary first, and then reply to me.

And if you’ve seen Freel this year he’s sucked. But atleast he has a pretty good career OBP, unlike your boy Mitch.

Maybe you shouldn’t be such a wiseass all the time. When did I saw he is way better? Never, insert foot into mouth. I said he’s better and that’s with a .140 career average. Let him get close to his career batting average and HE WILL BE WAY BETTER

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Schmats Is Yiddish

For “don’t matter”.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 7, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

TPJ

has got G for CY on the edge…

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah edge of excitement

I like these moves….

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll cut you a deal

I’ll increase my vocabluary of made up words, and you improve you grammar. A sentence never begins with a lower case letter.

And lighten up dude. It was gentle mocking. Take it as a compliment, not some viscous slur upon you. You are way too on edge. Calm down, crack open a beer, and chill.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 7, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha yeah sure man

now I’m on edge for defending myself. This board cracks me up. Sarcasm constantly flows, but if you’re targeted you have to just take it like Moore takes TJP up the butt, but thanks for the compliment I guess.u

I wouldn’t start sentences with a conjunction either; few professors will find them amusing.

Not sure what word you are saying is made up. I hope you don’t mean conditioned, but Schmats

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions

riddle me this

what if the beginning of the sentence is a company name that starts with a lower-case letter?

like ePets.com

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

You can avoid that by constructing your sentence better.

by AxDxMx on Jul 7, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

good point

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions

We Are All

Better people for this subthread.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 8, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions

and younger.

although maybe that just means he is mediocre/bad for longer

by benfunke on Jul 7, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe TPJ Should

Bat lefthanded. All the time. I mean, really, could it be any worse?

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by philofthenorth on Jul 7, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions

maybe he is really a left handed hitter

his father forgot to tell him….

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by buddyball on Jul 7, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

If He Straddled

The plate and chopped at the ball he might do better.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 7, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

excellent!

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by CollininCalifornia on Jul 7, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I do think it's somewhat hilarious

that people are actually trying to justify having Hernandez on the roster. IT’S LUIS FUCKING HERNANDEZ, FOLKS!!!

It’s like choosing to wipe your ass with a brillo pad or sandpaper. Seriously, does it really matter?

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

once again

a shitty 25 year old with experience at 3 positions is better than a shitty 28 year old with one position

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Neither deserve to be on the team

At least one is gone. The other has to go soon. Be patient.

by AxDxMx on Jul 7, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed, but

it doesn’t really matter, and hernandez has options. neither player is going to make the team better.

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

No he doesn't

you option players with options

Hernandez was DFAed

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Because TPJ would get claimed immediately by any GM wanting to lose his job.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Jul 7, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

SHIT!

What a fucking moron

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

"Seriously, does it really matter?"

Well, since Dayton appears to prefer wiping his ass with brillo pads and sandpaper, it kinda does.

by Top Ramen on Jul 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

LUIS HERNANDEZ

now

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I would rather wipe my ass with a brillo pad

there is usually soap on them so you can get a nice hard cleaning!

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 7, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Cleanliness Is Next

To bleeding fissures.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 8, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions

ya know. tpj almost blew a hot grounder in the 9th yesterday

not so sure he’s that “great” a defensive SS.

by Uscbalto on Jul 7, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions

almost?

he did blow a hot grounder, a “defensive replacement” needs to make that play……..“blow a hot grounder”, that sounds dirty..

by I need more Esteban on Jul 7, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

good to see

that it just wasn’t me…

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 7, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

ditto

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 7, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Heh,

if, somehow, Chen beats Verlander, then that sets up Greinke for the sweep tomorrow, which would bring KC back to within 6 games…

Nah, fuckit.

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 7, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

loved the

enthusiasm at first followed by the resounding negating of any hope………………..wow kinda like, I just wrote a synapse to the Royals season thus far………huh

soon to change name to, "The Not So Curious Case of Benjamin Bratt"

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 7, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Chen has pitched well enough to win

if the offense did anything productive during those games.

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by buddyball on Jul 7, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

TPJ does give me something productive

$20 to Trolley’s

now to figure out what the hell 135th street is the downtown of.

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by BHWick on Jul 7, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions

Adios, Luis Luis

You were useless.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jul 7, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

But It Was

An old school kind of useless.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 8, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions

This was a very big move with serious ramifications for the Royals wins and losses for the remainder of the season

Correction:

This was a very big move with serious ramifications for the Royals wins and losses for the remainder of the season

But hey, it’s fun to complain about even the littlest of things.

The immoderate moderator

by Scott McKinney on Jul 8, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions

in general, i agree with the sentiment

but when the end result of an event is that one of the worst players in baseball over the past few seasons remains on the team for no apparent reason, it’s worth complaining about.

by benfunke on Jul 8, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions