As the Royals Turn: Freel & TPJ Leave Fans Confused
Suddenly, I don't feel like the only pessimist anymore.
The Freel Trade, coupled with the bizarre decision to keep Tony Pena Jr. on the roster, seems to have eroded much of what wasn't destroyed by the Rany Ban. (Though they aren't really much related.) There's been a definite shift in the zeitgeist over the last 48 hours and it's been interesting to watch.
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- Two Curious Acquisitions: Hairston to Oakland, Freel to Kansas City; or, the Real Deal with Ryan Freel - Driveline Mechanics
- Chen Gets Bombed, Likely Not Done In Majors Yet " RoyalsPrimacy
- Sidney Ponson hurls eight shutout innings in Omaha win
- Royals on Radio etc.: Idiots !
- Actually, the Royals AREN'T that good when scoring more than four runs | Mellinger's Blog on the Royals and Baseball
- The Pipeline: Royals on the Farm 7/6
- Trying to Assess Mark Teahen's Trade Value - Royals Authority
- Pitching Perspectives (6/29-7/5) | Kings of Kauffman | A Kansas City Royals Blog
- The Death of Macho - By Reihan Salam | Foreign Policy
- Griffey's Michael Jackson Tribute - Lookout Landing
- The 10 worst lineups ever no-hit -- The Hardball Times
- New Arms of the Week - Fu-Te Ni and Clayton Mortensen - Beyond the Box Score
- Sickels in Burlington - Minor League Ball
- Think Again: Asia's Rise - By Minxin Pei | Foreign Policy
- The Royal Tower: Idaho Falls and AZL Rosters
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don't you mean the #ranyban?
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Matt Wright released
The first of Dayton’s ex-Braves is no longer with us (actually, I can’t remember if he or Ken Ray was the first—it was close either way). Omaha got almost three years of service out of him—I guess you need guys like that in your system.
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
THIS MUST BE IN ANTICIPATION OF A BIG MOVE
Always liked Matt Wright.
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Does anyone think that DM sees Freel as a solution to any significant problem?
Or is he just a minor, essentially free acquisition to fill a spot which was being manned by a nothing player (Hernandez)?
Am I supposed to be up in arms about the Freel acquisition because it is a sign of a poor front office thought process? Is that what all of the hubub is about?
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It does seem entirely pointless
But entirely pointless moves which don’t hurt the team are not the kind of thing that I waste my time being concerned about. I think the focus should more rightly be put on actual mistakes which have genuinely hurt the team.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 8, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Better to waste your time responding to those wasting their time being outraged, eh?
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Just throwing in my two cents
And wondering what the source of the outrage is. Like I said elsewhere, I don’t have my finger on the pulse. There may well be some reason to be outraged about the Freel trade that I don’t know about.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It's just a nothing move
Which is fine. It upgrades the roster actually in a minor and insignficant way.
I guess the frustration is why? A free agent this winter, doesn’t give enough by far to make any kind of desperate last push, and seemingly isn’t a precursor to anything else.
There are more importnat things for Dayton Moore to be worrying about that making nothing moves. And if reports are right and the Royals scouted him heavily on his rehab assignment in Iowa, this isn’t just an oppotunity thing but a planned move. The rationale behind it escapes me.
by kcbottom9th on Jul 8, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's just overall frustration
This season is playing out (only a little) worse than expected, people want to see changes and accountability, and, when an acquisition does not actually appear to make the team better or, even worse, does not appear to make sense, its magnified 1000x over. This is why I’ve spent hours being upset that TPJ was kept on the roster and Luis Hernandez, who is not good either, was DFAed. Everyone would just like to see some action that acknowledges that they know the team is bad and wants to improve it, even if that improvement is now only for the future.
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm mostly with NYRoyal, but I see the other side.
I don’t see why the Freel pick-up is the tipping point, either. The trade deadline is 3 weeks away, and I think we should all chillax until then. Maybe DM will make a move to actually improve the team.
On the other hand, here’s yet another move by DM that makes me think “well, in a vacuum, this move isn’t so bad,” but he makes too many of these moves. As bad as the lineup/defense is right now, it isn’t difficult to actually improve the team.
And the Freel pick-up, like many of his moves, betray a wrongheaded approach to improving the team. In this case, DM again displays his obsession finding a CF replacement for DDJ (Gathright…Crisp…Freel) when that does not appear to be a need. Plus, two of those guys are downgrades from DDJ and Crisp was a gamble. Why not stick DDJ in CF, where he played a good CF for many years, and pick up a corner OF who can hit just a little?
Meanwhile, we continue to maintain an absolutely dreadful bench when free guys abound that would improve Trey’s options in the late innings or when guys are injured. TPJ batted in the 8th last night with a guy on first and no outs. Maybe Moore should relax on finding a CF and find a utility IF who can hit the ball out of the infield.
I agree that the Freel signing isn’t that big a deal, even if he is our main CF the rest of the year, but it’s more evidence that DM doesn’t know how to improve the team. And that’s getting depressing.
by hippdoghipp on Jul 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
He has value
he was traded for Ramon Hernandez who isn’t too shabby with the .330 OBP. He has decent power too. He hasn’t slugged like Olivo but he gets on base more and doesn’t allow as many passed balls.
The move itself does upgrade us because Maier had a .232 OBP over the last month. Freel should have an OBP over .300 wth comparable defense in CF (although last night was pretty bad)
Stll I agree with most on here. Why don’t we just slide Dejesus over and stick Teahen in LF the rest of the year. Teahen is too valuable to be a super utility and Bloomquist has been a pretty good pickup, considering he has to play SS from now on.
Where does this leave Teahen when Gordon returns? Is Butler getting traded or Teahen??
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 8, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think either one is getting traded.
This thing that popped up regarding Guillen’s groin does not surprise me a bit; and I’m repeating myself but here it is:
I think they knew something was up and Jose is going on the DL soon. Even with Alex coming back, I don’t see them letting go of anyone. It would be consistent with the Freel acquisition and the Luis Hernandez move, and well, it would be consistent with everything that’s gone on in general.
I don’t think anything drastic is going to happen to this roster before July 30th, maybe another freebie pickup or two, and then Gil Meche going on the DL for awhile being replaced either by Ponson or Davies.
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Don't they need to clear roster space for Tom Glavine?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah, my bad. That's why Meche will go to DL, not for Ponson or Hiram.
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
He wasn't traded for Hernandez
Hernandez was dealt for two minor leaguers. Freel was thrown in the deal to eat some of Hernandez’s salary.
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Teahen was not good in left
Remember last year they had to convince JoGui to play left because Teahen was so bad at reading the ball in left. I don’t have any reason to think he’s gotten better with no practice doing it.
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think with time that will correct itself
it was just a few weeks. If a guy can playi RF, he can play LF.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you actually see the games DF?
It looked pretty bad. I guess, since it doesn’t matter, he could play there now and learn, but he’s a plus defender in RF, and he’s Jose Guillen in LF.
Good stuff
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 8, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals seem to stock up nothing players
at least they aren’t paying this one
Is Freel going to be the full-time CF? If not, he’s just another replacement player. Why not try to pick up another “nothing” player who is a bit younger and might have a future with the team on the bench, rather than being gone after the season.
If he is going to be full-time, even with MITCH having about 3% chance of ever being an acceptable full-time player, isn’t it better to at least put him out there? He’s at least a “good” as Freel overall… isn’t it time to just give him PAs and playing time, with the season (SHOCKINGLY) down the tubes, isn’t this the perfect time for that?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Remember how Ross Gload was played down the stretch? Same shit, different year.
By the way, a guy that can do almost what Freel can do position wise, that would have been available for the minimum, is Damian Rolls. He’s a KC native that’s busy trying to break back into baseball after injuries. They did a write up in the Star on him not that long ago and a commenter on Mellinger’s blog wrote about him. I don’t know if he can play CF though, which looks like the reason we got Freel. I agree though. Might as well play Mitch.
Mitch sucks
do have to post it again? He has a .232 OBP from June 6- July 6. Freel is a better player than Mitch Maier. Even if his D is slightly worse his bat is much better. Freel got on base twice yesterday.
Mitch has gotten on base twice in one game 9 out of 61 games. Someone explain to me why Mitch is as “good” as Freel. Freel defensive stats a few years ago are actually better than Maier’s
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 8, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Freel defensive stats a few years ago
If only we had a time machine.
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If anyone knows how to build a time machine to 2005, Dayton Moore does
I’m not sure how physics works with scouts rather that stats, though
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is more likely to be here next year?
Mitch or Freel?
I say Mitch, which is why we should give him time to show us what he can do. If management has decided he’s not an answer, then I can see why they got Freel. But really, DDJ can play there as well as both of them I would think.
On a sidenote, maybe Dayton thinks DDJ has all the little nagging injuries from playing CF. Maybe that’s why he doesn’t want him there.
well, it certainly can't be any other issue we can put our finger on

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be willing to bet money
We sign Freel to a deal next year.
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Seriously?
I thought I was down on Moore. That would be beyond stupid if it’s anything other than a minor-league deal.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right, no one is that stupid
I mean, who offers a guaranteed MLB contract to a 30+ year old guy with declining skills who only had three months after essentially being dumped by his old team?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 8, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am admonished
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
if there's one thing we know about Moore
he’s in love with his decisions
the bad ones stick around, and the (temporarily) good ones turn into extensions/resigns, etc
I meant is makes more sense to play MITCH than MITCH, sr.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
here's my unreasonably optimistic take
maybe Seitzer (king of hitting coaches) sees something in his swing that can be corrected and get him back to his old form.
though of course little MITCH should play – maybe with guillen’s injury we’ll see them both and we won’t have to worry about it.
by benfunke on Jul 8, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seitzer did work wonders with Mike Jacobs
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
wonders! yes, that's what ya call it!
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Placing a guy with who's already having hamstring trouble in CF everyday
seems like a recipe for disaster.
If only there were some way of telling if a guy had injury problems before he was acquired
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
we should pay other teams med staffs to give us legit physicals before we acquire people
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
can we do that with their GMs?
the Rays are still hurting for money. If the Royals could share a consultant with the Mariners, could they share a GM with the Rays?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
the question is....
how much would you be willing to have the royals pay to have friedman run both teams?
How would you do this? The Rays get 3 divisions and the Royals get 3?
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 on the JoGui injury thought.
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Another link from a link
Wil Meyers has been working out with the B-Royals, which he will be doing during all of their homestands. That’s a good sign, isn’t it?
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
I wonder
How many times I’ll misspell Myers’ last name.
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
That can't possibly be right
How in the world would the Royals agree to not have the kid play if he’s really already signed a contract?
(Okay, any questioning assuming the intelligence of the Royals’ front office at this time is probably just an easy target).
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Over slot
All contracts have to be approved by the Commisoners office. They hold up over slot ones, supposedly to stop other players using them to ramp up their own bonus.
Ah
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If that's true, teams should sue them over that
They are wasting valuable developmental time because of Bud Selig.
Bud Selig is the anti-"pick your diety"
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
I do think it was a somewhat pointless move as well
but really pretty small beer all things considered.
I think what people really should be concerned about is what Moustakas and Hosmer are doing in A ball. If they aren’t panning out as planned, we’re fucked and DM then needs to go immediately.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 8, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
Sickels'
is really depressing: Hosmer developed “mechanical issues” and now has a too slow swing as he works it out AND Justin Smoak just went to AAA. Yay us!
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by CentralChamps2009 on Jul 8, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
well, if they don't pan out
and/or the farm doesn’t start just pouring out talent, get the guy out of here
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 8, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The next day...
The perils of small sample size: as I mentioned yesterday, Eric Hosmer didn’t look very good for Burlington on Sunday, but on Monday he looked much better, pulling a Wily Peralta 92 MPH fastball for a home run to right field, and in general just showing a quicker bat. Don’t judge a player on just one game!.
by kcbottom9th on Jul 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was surprised the didn't go with Smoak at the time
If you’re going to draft a 1B type, why not go with the more developed player?
High School players = upside
CHipper Jonesand Andruw Jones = only prospects who ever worked out
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
just making a joke about DMGM's draft strategy
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i get that...
but i dont think the braves way can really be argued….their system is stacked, even after trading away a ton of guys…and their team is still good….whether or not dayton has a clue how to implement this philosophy is definitely debatable.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah ax/devils I agree
Someone was really condescending towards me when it was indignant about Moore taking HS players. He was like, “are you stupid, an elite HS player over a catch like Posey in the Carolina league” Actually I think it was NYRoyals or royalsreview.
It’s more of a sign of how audacious Moore is thinking he has YEARS of job security to allow his 18 year old players to pan out and if they didn’t he has 4 years of a nice cushy GM job. Nothing like drafting players like Posey, Beckham and Smoak who will be in the Majors this year or next.
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
smoak has 8 hrs this year....
he’ll likely be a good hitter and a good fielder for 1b….this team needs a couple homegrown stars to compete. I dont get the love for Beckham…other than arriving in the MLB fast….Bobby Crosby did that too. As far as Posey goes, I worried about him pre draft b/c his numbers seemed very fluky…he had never done ANYTHING close to what he did his last year at FSU.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer college platers too
For the very old fashined (it seems now) Moneyball reason- they actually have some stats (nothing fancy) that you can look at and measure them by. There is much less guesswork with college players as opposed to High Schoolers.
most superstar position players are in professional ball by the time they're 18...
and those are the guys we should be going for when we’re picking top 5 every year
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that's fine
and Moustakas is a fine pick. He was the best HS bat and Moore would have taken Price if he had the choice. But after you get your one “Superstar” “Elite” HS bat, you complement him with college players. There were several players with as much potential/upside as Hosmer (maybe not his power) but woudl have made the Majors 2-3 years before him.
It’s a good strategy to compliment your HS player taken earlier with college hitters/pitchers later – they can all reach the Majors at the same time.
That is why I love the Crow pick. We got him at better value than the Nationals with a year of experience or just a year older.
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
crow was a great pick....
and we followed him up with a couple more young, high upside guys in Myers and Dwyer
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that really true?
I don’t doubt you, but have never seen anything to that effect.
And I guess disagree with you here. Personally, If I am drafting top 5 every year I want to to take a can’t miss above average MLB performer. College players, by virtue of being nearer the majors, are more likely to “can’t miss”. They still can bust of course, but the risk is less. If you are a perrenial bottom dredger, I don’t think you can afford flame outs of high draft picks.
I can see the argument the other way though.
i believe that read it in a study....
and just off the top of my head…..arod, griffey, manny, hanram, cabrera, guerrero, both uptons, crawford, carlos pena, adrian gonzalez, pujols (may have been 19 wth 1 yr of juco), sizemore, etc
i think there have been certain instances where a college position player makes sense, but i think those instances are rare for a team like the royals.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
for instance....
alex gordon was 100% the correct pick
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with HS players a rule
I think you take the best player (as far as you can tell) that’s available that you can likely sign given your budget. All things being equal, yeah, I’d rather have the guy who will be in the majors sooner. But from my fairly ignorant perspective, I was having a hard time seeing how Hosmer projected to have clearly better upside than Smoak.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't
and how do you gauge HS competition. There is a great deal of manufactured hype surrounding HS players. That will get exposed in a good college program…look at draft bust Chris Lubanksi
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
lubanski was picked due to signability....
how about mike stodolka? Kyle Snyder? They had great COLLEGE stats
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
greinke, gordon, butler, dejesus, etc....
allard wasnt as awful with his early picks as one might think…and its still way early to pat dayton on the back, especially when he was given more money than any team in history last year to spend on the draft.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
What about pitching though?
Greinke is the only pitcher to live up to expectations. It seems the others all flamed out spectacularly with arm surgeries.
well....
smoak lasted until the 12th pick….so obviously there were still some reservations about him….and while he’s putting up good stats in the upper minors, his BABIP is 390 and the power has not been there either.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 8, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
there's a shock, let's get him in our pen
(in Burlington)
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Anyone have a BP monitor
for Petro in 810….that was quite the vent this morning….
Disagree with him on Chen being a legitimate 5th starter,
but the rest was spot on….
it is archived?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It's on the website podcast sections
It’s pretty awesome
by The #1 Bockel on Jul 8, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He did go pretty postal
but really, it’s warranted to some extent. at some point we’ve got to produce something positive at the big-league level. as much as i am hopeful about our commitment of resources to the minor leagues, the bottom line is results.
my real fear (shared by petro) is that if DM’s plan fails, the glasses will quit trying and go back to their old ways, eventually leading to something catastrophic for this organization.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
haven’t heard a good Soren rant in awhile, I haven’t listened to sports talk for about 2-3 weeks now, with the Royals struggles and me not being ready for the NFL yet, it’s kind of hard to stand. Hopefully college football talk starts soon
by I need more Esteban on Jul 8, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i still mostly listen
just hoping for something positive.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that is half the reason I didn't listen
drama drama drama
by I need more Esteban on Jul 8, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's only because the Royals haven't been winning!
That’s the only reason people attack the team, because they don’t win.
Those wacky fans.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
A's DFAed Dana Eveland
Wonder if the Royals will be interested in acquiring him. He is the LEFT HANDED PITCHER they have been seeking for so, so long.
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if Bruce Chen, Sideny Ponson, and Horacio Ramirez get chances
Eveland should get a 3-year contract
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Clarification
According to the A’s, he’s essentially being optioned and is not being exposed to waivers or being dealt. Baseball’s transaction rules are weird.
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O's could deal OF Felix Pie
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-osnotes0707,0,5313097.story
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Now that the TPJ, TPJJ, and Tug!PJ troika has been broken up
could Freel, Pie, and Maier ever replace them in our hearts?
I'm not sure the Royals need to acquire another young, inexpereinced guy who doesn' tknow how to win
just to back up Ryan Freel
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
TPJ wishes he could post Pie's numbers
No one is as bad as TPJ. His in historically awful Bill Bergen territory.
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We need Ron Artest to do a tribute song
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Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
One positive about Eric Hosmer
his K:BB rate isn’t awful. He’s playing in a god damn hellhole for hitters. So if he can make contact, and draw walks, then he’ll be useful, even if he doesn’t hit for power
Anybody know if he is as big as Billy Butler?
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
6` 4", 215 pounds
He’s a big boy, and will presumably fill out some more. But all the reports are that he is very tiday around the bag.
Butler is 6` 2", 240.
very tidy around the bag
that’s one way of putting it
but either he develops, or we hear stuff like the Mark Teahen stuff
Enough is Enough - Fire Trey Hillman
and he's just 19
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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
so we won't see him in the K for at least 6 years
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
dammit i keep forgetting the "sardonic" font
Christ, you don't need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt! What you need is a curveball! In the show, everyone can hit heat.
Another link. Although from the title it may seem Freelevant, it more directly explores of the question why people do things they know they shouldn’t: the stress of avoidance is too much for them. Read this while not thinking about the acquisition of low-value ballplayers.
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