Yes, That Happened. Royals Lose 1-0 and Fail to Support Greinke Again
It's getting harder and harder to care about this team on a daily basis. I actively dislike about half the roster at this point and I'm somewhere between really and truly rooting for losses and rooting against seeing a mirage at the end of the season that makes everyone think that everything is ok. The incessant use of the injury excuse is especially bothersome.
Still, I care when Greinke pitches, and I feel the old outrage again when this garbage heap roster can't score a damn run for him. Tonight, the Royals were shutout opposite a Greinke start for the fourth time this season. This is absolutely insane, considering that there are a number of teams who haven't been shutout four times all year. The Royals have given Greinke two runs or less a total of nine times.
So here's the truth, once again:
- This is the lineup Dayton Moore spent three years building. These are the guys he wants. They suck.
- Yes, Coco Crisp is injured. Stunner. However, Guillen's "devastating" injury has actually made the Royals better, so it kinda cancels out. You can talk about Aviles a bit if you want, but considering that Moore hardly believed in him and it took TPJ hitting .150 for three months for him to get a shot, I have a difficult time feeling charitable.
- The best hitters in the lineup remain Baird guys. Maybe Olivo cracks the top four tonight, since a lefty was starting, but that's the best Moore's managed.
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When did Lloyd Bensten's grandfather buy the Royals?
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by devil_fingers on Aug 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Knew Lloyd
Bentsen’s grandfather; David Glass is no Lloyd Bentsen’s grandfather.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
seems like a million years ago, doesn't it?
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by devil_fingers on Aug 14, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Everything Seems
Like 2 weeks ago to me, including kindergarten. I gotz the creeping oldz.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had kindergarten back before Noah????
by grudz96 on Aug 15, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam And Eve
Were classmates.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought is was Pat Summeral's dad
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by buddyball on Aug 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that sounds about right
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by devil_fingers on Aug 14, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It goes to show that money doesn't always buy good looks.
by grudz96 on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure, it does
i mean, he looks pretty good for a 103 year old, doesn’t he?
by marbotty on Aug 15, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For this Royals fan
Football season is arriving just in time to prevent a full descent into madness.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Aug 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well,
that’s assuming the Chiefs don’t continue their own unique brand of major suck-itude.
by KC Gunner on Aug 14, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if they do
at least the management of the Chiefs seems to be good now.
by AxDxMx on Aug 14, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I realize the Hunt/Pioli/Haley brand of Chiefs football has yet to play a single game, but the way GMDM continues to build and field a major league roster has me content in the knowledge that the Chiefs are the team to have faith in.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Aug 14, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that feeling about Dayton.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Aug 15, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Mad Dog
but I’m looking forward to COLLEGE football season…
The Chefs can go suck a duck…tho, I like what I’m hearing from Haley…
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by labbadabba on Aug 15, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, when he was being compared to
Carl and Herm
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by benfunke on Aug 15, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did bring in a lot of talent and really restocked their starting "lineups"
But why did they trade Tony Gonzalez…Why?
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by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Todd Haley doesn't use TE's anyway.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think Football Outsiders predicts Tony G to start having a sharp decline...
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
he was disgruntled and didn’t want to play here anymore. It’s kind of like getting rid of Guillen at the deadline last year – except for, you know, the performance.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
by kabrink on Aug 15, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he still had the best stats of TE's
and now cassel has no one to throw to except amani toomer
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by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point... That Bowe cat is a chump
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewherrrre, over the Dwayne Bowe...
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice
and Im gonna steel that and claim it as if it were mine
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't know who came up with it
But it wasn’t me, and there’s a photoshop of it too. I remember someone posting it at Arrowhead Pride
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he isnt the best
forgot him
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by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's by far the best option on the Chiefs
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
Toomer actually gives Cassel 2 targets now, Gonzalez was the safety net
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Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
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by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Don't Replace
Gonzalez, but it’s not hard to find a good TE. If he doesn’t have to be the primary receiver, there are many servicable options, I’m sure. Cottam might even be the answer for now.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
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babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
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by The_Fan on Aug 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
games like tonight’s “effort” are really discouraging. I’m not sure that I ever thought that there was a good chance that we would score, even when we had a runner at third. Some days we just don’t have a clue and what the team is doing to Zack borders on criminal. The problem (for me) is that I don’t see help on the horizon, so 2010 will probably be more of the same, except with declining performances by players >27 years old. Sigh. When do the Chiefs start?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
St. Willie, he of the Moore "successful offseason signing" quotes
is perilously close to falling below a .300 OBP.
And Miguel Olivo, despite all his HRs, has an OBP in the .270s as the everyday catcher
Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Aug 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what those stats mean
trust the Process
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time Bloomquist bats second
Hillman should be kicked in the nuts.
by Black and Gold on Aug 14, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do you trust the process
or don’t you. Sure, the guys Dayton wanted suck now, but hey, it’s a process. That means we’re not done, right?
Extremis malis extrema Soria.
by 2X2L on Aug 14, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
should have plenty of roster space around 2012
by royalsreview on Aug 14, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep in mind that Alex Gordon will be gone, too, thankfully
He’s going to be a real hit in Seattle.
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by devil_fingers on Aug 14, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look out for boston...
they’ll need a 3B soon
by royalsreview on Aug 14, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youkilis will move over there
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by devil_fingers on Aug 14, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, They Can
Live with Butler at 1B/DH.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember all the foul crys for plagiarism when I posted about Betancourt without quoting sources
Mike Smith of the Atlanta Falcons and his entire coaching staff talked about the “process” basically EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF THE NFL SEASON.
Is it because their process works that Moore isn’t in prison right now??
by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 15, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guys Dayton wanted suck now...
…and will probably continue to get worse. Apparently Moore’s process does not involve building a good roster ever.
Exhibit A – Jose Guillen
Exhibit B – Willy Bloomquist
Exhibit C – Mike Jacobs (gone I hope after this year)
Exhibit D – Coco Crisp (gone already)
Exhibit E – Yuniesky Betancourt
Exhibit F – Jamey Wright
Exhibt G – Bruce Chen
Exhibit H – John Bale
Exhibt I – Ron Mahay
…
Sad fact of the matter is that performance-wise most players on the current roster are likely to get worse, not better. Moore built this team to win now, not in the future. The only players on the roster now I think we are likely to see actually improve over the next three years are Gordon, Butler, Hochevar, Callaspo and maybe Maier and Aviles.
Lately the #7, #8 and #9 batters have all had OPS’ under .650. The #2 batter has had an OBP under .310. The #4 batter has had a slugging percentage under .420. The middle relief arms have all had ERA’s over 5.00. The Royals have a team OPS of .712 AND are the worst defensive team in baseball! How do you do that without trying? The 25 man roster over the last month has just be a big pile of decaying crap.
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by James Quinn on Aug 15, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No wonder Zack almost gave up this career for the lawn service business.
by Steve Hovley on Aug 14, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back there by the end of the season
by AxDxMx on Aug 14, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get him a phycotic
help him with his problems
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Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well here's an interesting postgame quote from Inge re: Zack
“Greinke was pretty dominant tonight, so you’re happy to see anyone else out there,” he said. “He’s inventing new stuff out there. He threw me a 95 mph cutter that looked like Mariano Rivera’s — I’d never seen that from him before.”
by swing and a miss on Aug 14, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a potentially bad sign...
Remember pre-treatment, Zack got bored and just started experimenting out there
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
by RoyalPug on Aug 14, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
bu that shows how good he is, he can experiment while throwing a 1 run loss
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait for the eephus curve
When he starts throwing that, then start worrying.
by kcbottom9th on Aug 15, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more involved?
what does that mean? if it means vetoing trades and draft picks, then that’s really bad news and I wouldn’t be surprised if DM ended up leaving on his own accord as a result.
however, and this is not to defend glass necessarily b/c he has been a bad owner so far, but he does have a right to be upset about the way things have turned out, at least this season. DM has really failed this year and is going to have to really pull some tricks out of his ass to turn things around. i don’t think there is anything wrong with glass letting his displeasure at the current state of the team be known, that’s what we’re all doing.
but, if he is going to keep DM in charge, then he needs to let him do his thing, and if he continues to fail then replace him. hamstringing him by meddling in personnel moves is a recipe for disaster, and he of all people should know that.
i do think it’s entirely appropriate for him to evaluate moore/hillman and let them know that this result is unacceptable. but, if DM has lost glass’ faith, then glass should fire him immediately and find someone who he does believe in.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 14, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no idea what it means either
just going off of the story that came out today about it
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5ixGNPo9utnNbo6-5SbxlYgILj_XQ
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Owner David Glass said Friday that he plans to clear his schedule to attend more games and see why the Kansas City Royals are having one of their most disappointing seasons in years.
In an interview from his office in Bentonville, Ark., Glass said he would meet with team president Dan Glass and general manager Dayton Moore to assess the entire season, including the performance of manager Trey Hillman.
by royalsreview on Aug 14, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't trust anything canadian
they are trying to subvert all things american.
from reading this, i don’t see anything to be cause for alarm. really, we just need to watch what they do and not what they say, including glass. i think this is going to be a tremendously important off-season for this franchise and DM’s future.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 14, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't they have death panels?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 15, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he said
that he’s unwaivering about having a competitive team in Kansas City. Hooray.
by hippdoghipp on Aug 15, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glass
Is it a bad or good thing that Glass is taking an interest in the Royals now? I’m no Harvard grad, but if I had a huge investment such as a Major League baseball team, I would attend every game and actually care about the product I put out there…
by dkraft3 on Aug 15, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for most people
its more of the prestigeousness that you feel from owning a team. And yes, I probably made up a word
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Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Must Be
Phycotic.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am phyoctic
i tell the voices no but they won’t listen
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glass is a joke. Worst owner in sports.
I hope “taking an interest” is code for “selling to somebody who gives a shit.”
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Aug 15, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
I’d be happy to drop in and explain the situation in terminology Glass would understand.
Glass knows the importance of market inefficiencies and innovation in retail. He oversaw the development of streamlined computerized distribution, the “supercenter” format and international expansion. Those moves pushed Walmart over the top. Now if only he realized the same “outside the box” thinking (is the use and proper application of stats alongside scouting even considered outside the box anymore?) works in baseball and his team is being run by the equivalent of old school inefficient Kmart.
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by RATW on Aug 15, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course form the owner's perspective
to biggest market inefficiency is revenue sharing, so Glass might just decide to go back to his pre-2006 ways (Cf. Loria, Jeffrey), and field the cheapest team possible and go back to being one of the biggest welfare queens in the world.
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by devil_fingers on Aug 15, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what the problem is
Zack doesn’t have the mental fortitude to make the team score runs
by NotAHippie on Aug 15, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand this team
I just feel worse for Zack every time this happens.
-Chiefs- Winning more than 2 games is the first step...good thing the new guys want more than that.
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-Royals- Uhhh...errr....winning? What's that?
by optimistic_chief16 on Aug 15, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 2-Pronged Stay
Competitive while restocking the farm strategy is not working that well on either front. A system that has been so badly neglected for so long cannot be rebuilt solely through the draft in fewer than 5 years, so the small market teams virtually always trade MLB talent for, they hope, future added value.
It takes talent to make it all come together every 3-5 years, but apparently it can be done. After 1.5 decades of futility, I think Royals fans would be happy to see a playoff/Series team once every 5 years rather than this mediocre pablum to outright dreck we’ve seen since Kauffman died.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
But we aren’t exactly a small market team, more of a middle market team. The only perso who accomplished that kind of strategy is KW. He restocks his farm system and stays competitive, and it works quite well. I’m sure billy beane could do it too. If I was the Royals, I would start cutting most of the 28+ guys in the minors and replace them with young talent. Also trade guys we could get value from in this offseason and most of next year. Although, DM won’t let it happen
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no we are a small market team...
Im pretty sure we are like the 3rd or 4th smallest market team.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually by population
we’re second smallest to milwaukee, which is way, way below us. however, it seems to only be a matter of a few more years before we pass pittsburgh and cleveland, but we will also be passed very soon by Las Vegas. We are actually estimated to now be over 2 million people as an MSA, which is very exciting. We’re actually at least close to being in the same ballpark (no pun intended) as Baltimore and Denver, at least population-wise. I would expect these trends to continue, if not accelerate because people are finally catching on to the quality of life and cost of living here. We’ll eventually pass St. Louis as well, probably in the next 40 years.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's claiming the WS are a middle market team?
He is a Sox fan first, but who knows.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Aug 15, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats that supposed to mean
I’ve grown up in a household of Royals and sox fans, so I like both teams very much
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying that claiming the Royals are a mid-market team is ridiculous.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Aug 15, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I don't know
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t DM get Glass to spend more money, as he signed Meche to a ridiculous contract and Guillen, or were they just high priced disasters, because the royals are spending so much money every winter? And I know they are disasters
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meche a "high priced disaster" with a "ridiculous contract?" Really?
I’d say signing Meche was among the best moves Moore has made since arriving at KC.
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by James Quinn on Aug 15, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meche has been well worth his contract
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 16, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not 55 million though
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 16, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing Beane could pull it off with a $100 million payroll as well.
The only perso who accomplished that kind of strategy is KW. He restocks his farm system and stays competitive, and it works quite well. I’m sure billy beane could do it too.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
by Warden11 on Aug 15, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could pul it off
with 30 million, Beane is Beane
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best and most relevant likeness.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
by kabrink on Aug 15, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh...Glass getting involved is a GOOD thing.
1. GMDM has proven that he simply cannot handle money.
2. We’ve all bitched for YEARS wishing that we had a more active owner.
3. GMDM will never be able to put together a big league ball club, because he rejects analysis.
If DM leaves because of ownership meddling, GOOD. If Glass fires him for being horrible, GOOD. If he comes up just to scare them into making yet another horrible trade, NO GOOD.
by Justin Bopp on Aug 15, 2009 4:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what's starting to bug me?
We have two CFs now on the team in Maier and Anderson. Despite this, St. Willie is still logging starts as the CF.
Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Aug 15, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's as if Hillman hasn't noticed that we already have
two scrubs for that position.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Aug 15, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Have A
CF platoon of 2 LHB’s. At least Trey noticed this finally.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do go with the three-headed lefty-mashing platoon at C
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by devil_fingers on Aug 15, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Not Have
Jakers join the platoon? Problem solved.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at center field or at catcher?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 15, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Was Thinking
Catcher, but he’s probably be about as effective in the field at either.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where else is he going to play
Groundskeeper Willie?
"The life of a (Royals) fan must be lived forward but can only be understood backward" -- Kierkegaard (more or less)
by benfunke on Aug 15, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Zac-K
He’s going to drop the Cy Young thanks to his W-L.
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Aug 15, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
An absolute disgrace
that this team cannot manufacture a run for Zack. I met him and watched him play when he was in AA and he was a very nice young man. I would like to see him go to a contender. He deserves better than being on this excuse for a major league team. It is incredible that the Royals are 11 and 13 record when he starts.
by BlueBloodRoyal on Aug 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree you RR. it is getting tough to support this team.
I have the feeling that as in 2006 the manager has lost the team and they are now just mailing it in each night and finishing out the season. We have better pitching than we did in 2006, but we don’t have a leader on the team. Someone to kick them in the ass and get them to play for some kind of pride instead of just the next paycheck. After last night’s game I feel like we have gone back in time and Buddo should be setting in the dugout eating one sunflower seed at a time.
Lastly, there is an old saying (buddyball you should remember this one) that states “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.” Well folks, any sow would be embarrassed to have this team compared to her ear. We deserve to finish last in the division and maybe in baseball. We are a sad and pathetic team.
by grudz96 on Aug 15, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
To think they get paid to play a baseball game that all of us would love to play. You are correct about no leadership, they need a Hal McRae type that they would fear if they didn’t play hard all the time.
by BlueBloodRoyal on Aug 15, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
but if we stopped watching well, we wouldn’t be royals fans. I mean look at those Cubs, lose every year and have one of the most attendences
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except
I don’t think the Cubs have actually ever been as bad as the Royals have been for the last 20 years.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
by kabrink on Aug 15, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least the royals can win a world series
and not have droughts like the cubs 1-3 year drought
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who do you think will win it first the Royals or the Cubs
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry type 103 year drought
Royals by far, have you ever heard of the billy goat curse?
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you actually believe in a curse you have no buisness being here
Im pretty sure at this rate the Cubs have a better shot at winning a series than the Royals
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 16, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the Cubs regress to the mean and win 5 WS titles in 10 years
the curse will be lifted!
by AxDxMx on Aug 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont
the cubs just dont know how to win
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmmmm
This team really sucks. Chiefs preseason opener tonight!
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
chiefs football:
at least it’s only 4 months of watching a terrible team represent this town.
by 9il on Aug 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
couldn’t agree more, but hey at least the chiefs are trying to correct the terribleness.
by dkraft3 on Aug 15, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can almost guarantee that the Chiefs winning percentage will be better than that of the Royals...
not saying I much I know, but I still think the Chiefs will not be an embarrassment this year.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Denver goes to the cellar
and the Chefs battle Oakland and San Diego for 1st through 3rd place
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree... Hopefully the Raiders keep trying this JaMarcus Russel project for a while...
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 15, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good name for a band
JaMarcus Russel Project
The JaMarcus Russel Experience
by AxDxMx on Aug 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
err Mixed thoughts on that, they traded Tony Ginzalez
but acquired Matt Cassel. Crazy
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they got better so....
6-10
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
by The_Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they only can lose one game a week!
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 15, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not If They're
On Thursday Night Football.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The incessant use of the injury excuse is especially bothersome.
10-word sentence, only three of which began with a consonant, and two of those were articles. Includes a streak of 7 out of 8 beginning with a vowel. Just interesting, that’s all.
"The life of a (Royals) fan must be lived forward but can only be understood backward" -- Kierkegaard (more or less)
by benfunke on Aug 15, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
the internal rhyme.
Extremis malis extrema Soria.
by 2X2L on Aug 16, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glass isn't even a classy looking older rich guy.
He looks like a high school principal.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Aug 15, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come On, We're
Talking WalMart here. Not exactly old money.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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