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How can the owner get fired??



I've been reading the Chiefs SB Nation blog quite a bit and just signed on to the Royals blog today, so this may be a topic that has been discussed here a lot.  I am a KC native relocated to Los Angeles.  I have been reading a lot of people on here talking about how fed up they are with the futility of the Royals organization.  I totally concur with that sentiment.  In fact, it's hard to not actively hate this team or to root for their demise.  I have tried to become a Dodger fan (the uniforms are almost identical after all), but having lived in KC for 30 years makes it hard to turn my back on the Royals.  I am, sadly, emotionally invested.

That said, the Royals are a horrendous organization.  There is no way around at.  The worst part of it all is there is no hope of them turning a corner any time soon.  They will not get better any time soon.  They are beyond inept at developing talent and have been for years.  Small market teams are going to have to be excellent at developing talent if they have any hope of every fielding a competitive team.

The common denominator in all this is David Glass.  I ask this as a serious question:  is there a worse owner in all professional sports than David Glass?  Bill Bidwell was always a good candidate, but he went to the Superbowl last year.  I would even expand the circle; is there a worse owner in worldwide professional sports than David Glass?  If there is I would like to hear about it.  Is there anything about Glass that makes you think he cares about the team.  Sure he says he hates losing.  But he doesn't go to the games.  Jason Whitlock doesn't go to the games either.  David Glass should be ashamed of himself for fielding a team that is that terrible and then expecting the fans of Kansas City to actually pay money to watch it.  And I think the team plays with no care or passion, and they are just like their boss.

So how can you get rid of the guy who is clearly the problem?

And that, to me, is the key to all this.  The fans have got to stop putting money into this team.  I am not asking people to be fairweather fans.  I am asking them to stop giving the Glass family their money.  Cancel your season tickets and tell the Lancers that you won't buy season tickets until Glass is gone.  Watch the games on MLB TV.  Like well meaning friends who give money to a meth addict, Royals fans are enabling this nonsense.  Because as long as Glass is making money, I don't think he gives a damn about what this team does.  His behavior backs me up -- not his words, but his behavior.  Maybe if he starts to lose money he would consider selling.  And I think that is best thing that can happen to baseball in KC.

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good sentiment

however, in this particular case, i think that glass really isn’t at fault. he has spent money recently, it has either been poorly spent (free agency) or hasn’t panned out yet (draft).

case in point, the cleveland indians are projected to lose $18 million this year on $81 million in payroll. the royals thus far have drawn about 150,000 more fans this year. at $40 in revenue per person, that’s about $6 million more in revenue (just a WAG) than Cleveland. The royals have about $11 million less in payroll than cleveland, so using those very crude numbers, you could estimate that the royals will about break even this year, if the $18 million loss figure is close (I believe I saw it on foxsports.com). add to that that the royals are spending heavily in the draft, as much if not more than most teams. so, in this particular case, i don’t blame glass, i blame moore for misspending the money.

what we really need is for moore to make some face-saving moves this offseason and for the minor-leaguers to start panning out. otherwise, i really fear that glass will get fed up, fire moore, and go back to the wal-mart days.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 15, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus

Glass and the Royals aren’t asking exorbitant amounts of money if you are wanting to go to the game. It’s not like, with the product they put out there, they are asking you to pay Red Sox or Yankee prices to go to the games. Hell, half of the nights, with all of the promotions, it’s almost like getting into a minor league game.

So, people will still go because of that fact alone; it’s one of the places to get fairly cheap entertainment in Kansas City.

by stlfan on Aug 16, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

-$18M...

Does that figure include Revenue Sharing? I assume it does not, as estimates for the slush fund are anywhere between $50M to > $100M per team…

Until the owners are willing to open the books, I will ALWAYS make the assumption they are making $$ hand over fist as opposed to “breaking even” or operating in the red. If that were the case, they would be more willing to show people IMO

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Aug 16, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no idea

whether it includes revenue sharing or not. if they were still turning a profit i doubt they would be so inclined to let those two go..cleveland has been pretty well-run from what it seems.

this also tends to corroborate what DM said about needing 2 million fans to get the payroll to $70-$75 million.

of course, they all could be colluding and just blowing smoke as well, who really knows. it is a fact though that teams like KC, TB, Pit, and Mil can’t compete financially with the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox (or even the Tigers). that doesn’t mean that they can’t compete with shrewd talent evaluation and smart money management, but despite what everyone says, the system is still broken IMO.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 16, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is "the process"
the system is still broken IMO.

He can get 4, NOT 5.

by Warden11 on Aug 16, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 18, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has spent money recently,

And it only took him, what eight years?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, It's Too

Late for old guys like me to see the results in 2020.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slappy, the sentiment seems sincere; the logic

seems a little questionabl. It would help me understand your post, to know what specifically it is that you object to about David Glass. his $$$, his time, his energy, that saved baseball in KC, and how many millions has he spent out of his pocket to improve the Royals? Insufficient for some of our good fans it seems, but, before we condemn the man possibly some of our statisticians would post what is the difference between D. Glass and other owners that makes Glass the worst owner in all professional sports. Does Glass spend less of his “own” $$$ than e.g. George Steinbrenner. If Steinbrenner spends less of his $$$ then Glass, is he a worse owner than Glass. What would it take to elevate D. Glass? Glass seems to me more the typical pro sports owner, and I believe we’re lucky to have him. Sure, I’d like to have an ex-athlete that understands sports, and hence hiring, but I have trouble faulting glass when 99% approved the present hires that run the team.

by Coach Feb on Aug 16, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Glass

is the guy Bud & Co. wanted.

Extremis malis extrema Soria.

by 2X2L on Aug 16, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

(Resists temptation to compare this to the practice of no-bid contracts.)

Extremis malis extrema Soria.

by 2X2L on Aug 16, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a worse owner in all professional sports than David Glass?

Donald Sterling. William Ford. Ted Lerner. Glass is probably next.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Loria Loria Loria Loria Loria Loria

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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

1=multiple?

he deliberatily destroys one franchise, gets awarded another, inherits a team and FO staff that gets a title, then dismantles that team and lives off revenue sharing and constnatly threatens to move…

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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 18, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you take out the douchebag stuff

I kind of like how he has a bunch of young players, let’s them play, brings in veterans to supplement a contending team through trades, dismantles the team by trading the soon to be expensive pieces for new youngsters.

I believe that’s how a small market team should be run. Would I prefer the Yankees model in KC? Sure! But it won’t ever happen unless half of New York moves to our suburbs.

by AxDxMx on Aug 19, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

and I guess Loria should maybe get a little credit for making the situation such that his GM(s) have to work that way. But I think the bulk of the credit should go to an F.O. working on a shoestring budget. I think they’ve been excellent given the ridiculsouly small budget they have.

But giving Loria credit for the 2003 Marlins is more distorted than giving Barry Switzer credit for the 1996 Cowboys.

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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 19, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the key point to me--yanks will never happen in kc and kc

fans need to get over that and cease vilification of Glass because he could never even if he wanted take that approach. We already had an outfield of damon, beltran and Dye. what did it get us? KC fans should end the nonsensical desire to “buy” a competitive team and look to perfecting the other (more important) parts of “the process”. its really a lot more enjoyable and a lot more fun than rolling out your wallet for this years fab FA.

by Coach Feb on Aug 19, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

My vilification of Glass stems more from him not seeming to care.

If I owned a pro team I would, you know, go to the games. I wouldn’t give the state of the Royals address while I was going to a game in another city. Glass says nobody hates losing as much as he does. I guess his therapy for that is watching other teams play.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Aug 19, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If the Royals were to compete with the Yankees

The Yankees would still outspend them for the best players, and similar offers would go to NY as well, as more exposure means more opportunities for other revenue sources as ad spokesmen. The Royals will never compete with that.

by AxDxMx on Aug 20, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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