Game 123 Open Thread - Twins (60-63) at Royals (47-75)
Minnesota Twins at Kansas City Royals, Aug 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT
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So Cox carries 140 Royals games a year...
And I like that the didn’t really miss a game over the first 70 games of the season, but now that we are well into the second half it seams that 2 or 3 games a week aren’t aired, which is fine since watching the Royals right now is kind of depressing, but what if we were in a pennant race, wouldn’t it have been better to miss more games in the beginning?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
They do set the schedules before the season
They are just realists I guess.
by kcbottom9th on Aug 23, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe fox sports has the option to buy those games
so, they’re paying for the games earlier in the season assuming we won’t be out of it before mid-july
Fourth!!! Yeah......
I’m doing better than the Royals in the AL central. By just one place.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Think Mauer can still win the MVP
even with the Twins playing Piranhaball?
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
Mauer has a better shot at MVP than Greinke has at the Cy Young
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Lineups
Minnesota
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
D. Span rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
O. Cabrera ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
J. Mauer c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .378
J. Kubel dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .307
M. Cuddyer 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
J. Crede 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .229
D. Young lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
C. Gomez cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
A. Casilla 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .194
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kansas City
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
D. DeJesus lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
B. Pena c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .317
B. Butler 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
M. Jacobs dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231
A. Callaspo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299
M. Teahen 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
M. Maier cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .246
Y. Betancourt ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231
J. Anderson rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Minnesota
IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
C. Pavano 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.36 5.32
Kansas City
IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Bannister 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.36 4.44
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kinda like that chicken fried steak I had...
in the fourth grade..yep it’s still with me.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You Know It's
Not really chicken, right?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I eat one of those weekly.
But I’m pretty sure it’s gone around 4:15 every day.
He can get 4, NOT 5.
I posted the "Hosmer to get glasses story" at
http://www.royalsreview.com/2009/8/23/999477/third-baseman-mike-moustakas-and
but… this organization can’t afford contact lens for their players?
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remember how the glasses thing helped TPJ...oh wait...
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 23, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no no
it was the Lasik that was supposed to help TPJ and Aaron Guiel
go figure that one of the few minor league hitters who can draw walks needs glasses
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well he is definately not following The Process
it is obvious he is not seeing the ball well enough to swing for the fences, and instead is taking walks….can’t have that.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't notice that this game wasn't on TV until
I saw that there was a turkey on FSN at 12:45 instead of Joel Goldberg
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damn..i was going to try to watch an entire game today for the first time in a couple weeks....
damn the luck
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
I think I'm going to have to skip this one
Just checked the maildrop again, and my prescription glasses still aren’t in.
My Suckitude Theory
I do not feel that my theory got proper discussion the other time I posted it.
These guys are good and do not suck: Butler, Soria, Greinke
These guys are ok barely: Teahen
Guys that suck: everyone else
Since so many more guys suck than don’t, the team therefore must suck.
DDJ is the best position player on the team at the moment
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
why not group 1?
he’s outplayed Butler this season,
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Meche, Bryan Pena, Hochevar, Callaspo, Bannister, Tejeda
All deserving of Group 2 status.
by andrewmiller on Aug 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Keillor Is Rerunning
Parts of his 2 shows from the Starlight Theater in KCMO. It’s tempting, but I have the Twinky crew on mlb.tv, so I think I’ll watch. Joker needs a red ball nose and big rubber feet out there in RF; that would complete the look.
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how closely related do you think Mauer and MITCH are?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
But we do get a shot at closing out the Metrodome. My suggestion: If Mauer is hitting around .390, walk him as often as possible to mess with the Twins fans
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maybe he'll get distracted by Pete Rose
those have to be by far the worst Poz columns — did you see his comments at some memorabilia show about how bad baseball has treated Rose?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how everyone believes that Rose wouldn't bet against the Reds
aside from that not being the issue…
“Hey, when’s the last time anyone caught Pete Rose lying?”
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I should say that Rose apologists like Poz all throw that out there
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Poz really a Rose apologist? I hope not; that would seriously reduce my enthusiasm for The Machine.
Meanwhile, do you you have a link or two handy for Poz on Rose?
here are the latest comments
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I can’t disagree with anything Poz is quoted as saying in the article you cited, and I’m very definitely not in support of lifting Rose’s lifetime ban. I don’t see Poz himself making the case for that in what he’s quoted as saying, only laying out the case that has been and will continue to be made by others. And I agree that MLB exploiting Rose for the All-Time team was shabby — if he’s banned, he’s banned.
From Poz himself, I found The Hit King’s Lament. Good article; Poz tries to get him to talk about his playing days, and Rose can’t stop talking about how he was “wronged”.
I have trouble with Poz being seemingly unable to admit
that, as a human being, PEte Rose is pretty much a piece of crap
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You have enthusiasm for "The Machine"?
I have zero desire to read that book. Just don’t care about the Reds.
Also, I think the cover looks hideous, and the “A hot team, a legendary season, and a heart-stopping World Series. The story of the 1975 Cincinatti Reds.” Sounds like something a 5th grader wrote.
And here’s the thing about Pete Rose, everyone knows he’s one of the greatest players of all time and that’s all that really matters. The HOF lets in people that don’t deserve it all the time (Jim Rice), Pete shouldn’t give a crap whether he’s in or not. It’s just a building in the middle of nowhere.
yes...im sick of reading about it....
and have never had any desire to read it
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hate the cover and the title too
But I still have some fondness for the Reds of that era for pounding the Yankees into submission after the Chambliss game. And I like Posnanski’s writing, so I’m looking forward to it.
If there’s a chapter in there about how Rose’s case deserves to be re-evaluated, I’m skipping it.
kinda gotta agree
and I’m not really sure why the Reds needed a book about them at this point
we’ve had 70s baseball nostalgia for quite awhile now, given that young people from that time are now in positions of prominence
I’d probably rather read about the 2003 Marlins (ok that’s a joke) or any of the great 1990s teams
someone needs to chronicle the Kelly Gruber Blue Jays years
I’m sure Poz will bring something new to the subject, and I’ll find it worthwhile.
I’m also about to launch into the new biography of Satchel Paige, and he’s not exactly a brand new subject either.
I think both our interesting meters are questionable
After all, it’s August 23, and we’re both still watching/listening to the Kansas City Useless Royals.
No, I'm just bitching about them at this point
I rarely watch the games as there will be an inevitable point that will cause me to yell and scream about the team being horrible. I gave up regular watching at the start of July.
And by “he’s at least interesting”, I meant Satchel Paige.
Yup, I got that you meant Satchel.
Also, I get that you have zero interest in the Reds. That’s fine with me. I was only pointing out to RR that a book doesn’t have to cover a brand new subject to hold interest. (I’m also wondering what “nostalgia” has to do with anything. Was Edward Gibbon nostalgic for the Roman Empire just because he wrote about it? But he didn’t respond, so I didn’t get to ask him.)
Anyway, I’m sure it won’t bother anyone here if I read The Machine and decide it wasn’t a waste of my time. If I like it a lot I’ll probably post about it and endeavor to explain why.
Oh you don't have to defend yourself to me
I was just stating my opinion of it. I can understand why people would want to read it though. It just holds no interest for me, especially since I didn’t grow up with those players (born in 1979). Hell, a book about the late 90’s Yankees’ teams would hold zero interest for me. Although, I can’t wait for the book “Documenting the Disaster: The Sad Saga of the Kansas City Royals 1986 to present”. Howser dies, Kauffman dies, hope dies, no owner, Glass becomes owner, laughingstock of the league, little league teams have better fundamentals, etc….
Larry Dierker
pretty much went that route with Bonds in ‘01. Might have hastened Dierker’s ouster. So I say: go for it, Trey.
by 2X2L on Aug 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Pena Bunts
I will pummel Trey within an inch of my life.
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Ah, Good Old
Hit and run forces Pena to swing at a pitch he barely could reach; he should have let him go. Trey can suck it.
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But then he wouldn't have played the game
TeH right way!!!!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Manatee Zone
Is a happy place. Twinky crew says they have to make him pull the ball; good luck with that plan.
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Christ, How Many
Pitches did Jakers see? I missed it entirely, and I’m watching.
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We Have
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Pena's Career Platoon
Splits:
Platoon SplitsCSV · PRE · LINK · Direct Link
I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+
vs RHP as LH 77 147 141 36 7 0 4 15 0 1 4 19 .255 .272 .390 .662 55 4 0 0 2 2 2 .267 90
vs LHP as RH 53 97 87 25 5 0 2 8 0 0 6 7 .287 .333 .414 .747 36 4 0 4 0 0 4 .295 116
He’s still at least as good, albeit a SSS, as Olivo or Buck as a LHB against RHP. Trade Olivo, start Pena and keep Buck as a very good backup/insurance catcher.
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small sample
his minor league splits
vs. LH: 376 PA, .388/.414/.543
vs. RH: 885 PA, .272/.334/.368
We should get a backup catcher who can step into the job if Pena isn’t getting it done. Pena/Buck could be two sucktacular catchers if Pena has a bad start in 2010
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those ML splits are 2005 to 2009
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Ball 4 Looked
Pretty good; how says Gameday?
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Daytime Brainy Looks
To be in the house. He’s keeping it down, and when he comes up it’s out of the zone. That’s his recipe for success.
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It Was A
Stretch.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Its like trying to divide by zero...
the hatred can’t get worse. Once I saw that “play” of his in Right I pretty much bottomed out
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bannister is going to sign with the Cubs when he reaches free agency
and he will win a Cy Young
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nah, will probably go the Braves...
then win the Cy Young
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Day Banny pitching half his games in the daytime = Cy Young
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Fighter of the Night Banny...
He’s a master of Pitch F/X and BABIP for everyone… DAY BANNY AhhAHHHH
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Very Nice Play
By Harris and Cuddyer. Very close at 1B.
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Yahoo Sports Says
Cuddyer is playing 1B, and I thought that was who they said on TV, too. Then again they are mirror images.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Joker Is So
Late swinging the Twinky booth is mocking him about taking the donut off.
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Butler May Have
Gotten Gomez on the pickoff; a tie at best.
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Kubel looks like Turtle from Entourage
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Joker Misses The
Cutoff man; Twinkie booth very disappointed in Span for not letting “Go Go” steal.
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Felix today=not awesome....
good news for greinke
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
A Very WTF
Play by Teahan, backhanding a ball right at him; he didn’t even touch it.
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there's really no way of knowing
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if they're playing...
but surely its something like milwaukee/pittsburgh
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll Probably Rerun
This one.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It Would Be
A certain sign of the end times.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I Think Mitch
Started back on that one, made it closer than it should have been.
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Mitch's range still grades better than Anderson's "75% of the plays of an average CF" defense
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Joker Is Ready
To take the field after bunting into a DP.

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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I Don't Know
Why, that name just came to me and it won’t go away.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I think it has a good chance, for a couple of reasons:
1) There just aren’t that many good hitters who try to be contact hitters anymore — most of the best hitters are rightly focused on getting good pitches to hit, getting on base, hitting for power
2) I don’t think other players will take/have the opporunity to arificially extend their careers like Rose did.
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
among active guys
Jeter and Arod have a chance, Arod’s already at 2500 basically, and is 33, but yea… he’ll likely leave the game early
I don’t know who is gonna tell Derek Jeter to go away however… Jete’s is at 2700 and is 35
in any case, my main quibble is that it’s just not a good bet to say, “this record will last 50 years”… 50 years is a long time, especially considering the sport is only 120 years old or so
Both Jeter and A-ROd will hang on as long as they're allowed to play every day
they both love playing, and love baseball history
but they both will take a pitch, and while both might be selfish re: playing time, neither can compete with Rose in that regard
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeter's contract ends in 2010... I wonder what his next deal will be
i can see the yankees giving him a 4-5 year deal
It will be a lot of fun to see him and A-Rod hobbling around at 40 together
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i think arod will be hobbling
but jeter should be fine
i think you’ve won me over on him, i know longer hate him, find him overrated
haha
Jeter is overrated, just not as much as people thought
Don’t worry, every time people forget to babble about him, he has a great season, everyone jimps on the bandwagon, then the next season he OPSes .750 and turns into Michael Young in the field again.
It’s hard to tell how superstars age with the normal aging curve. A-Rod’s obviously a whole different level of awesome than Jeter, but I wonder about how he’ll age after the injuries the last couple years
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I Can Testify
To the fact that injuries heal, but they never completely go away.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the youngest player within 1000 hits of 3000 is 33 year old Edgar Renteria
and Rose had a 200 hit season at 38, which has only happened 5 times
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A-Rod's going for Bonds record
not Pete Rose’s bullshit one
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
A-Rod: 189 hits per 162 games (2489 hits)
Renteria: 179 hits per 162 games (2171 hits)
Renteria is less than 2 weeks younger
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wow...renteria is actually younger than Arod?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
surprised me, too
AND HE’S EVERY BIT AS GOOD!
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought for sure he was like 36 years old
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
given the way me plays
I think that might be guessing young
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the 5 times that a 38+ year old has had 200 hits in a season
Pete Rose, _______, ________, _________
One player did it twice, 3 of 4 players are HOFers
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nope
one of the guys is someone you’ve probably seen play
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Best Randa memory
The walk off Grand Slam in 2001. That was a fun game to be at.
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Phase 2: ?
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
tony gwynn?
Cal Ripken?
Cal Pickering?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
George Brett?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Molitor is the guy who we've probably seen play
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't hear the whole conversationg...
but I guess some Ranger has missed some time for taking a liner off of something from Billy
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If Bam Bam can be less streaky and more consistently good
then he’ll hit like Sweeney
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its weird to me that they play games other than Braves games on TBS now
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I Heard That's
Why Turner bought the Braves; he was paying something like $600.000 a year for the Braves broadcast rights and $1,000,000 a year for the station. The Braves essentially paid for the station.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
DDJ Can Really
Fly per the Twinkie guys. If that were true he would have been on 1B.
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Range Up The
Middle? Yu-Bet! He and Hoagy would make good bookends. Maybe the Sailorboys would take them off our hands if we paid their 2010 salaries.
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The one good thing about listening to the opposing team's announcers
is that they spend so much time marveling over the mystery of the Royals. The Twins guys today are spending 75 percent of their on air time dissecting the matter of How the Royals Went Wrong.
Yeah...
little bit. Although they seem mostly mystified. They’ve defended Dayton a little and haven’t mentioned Hillman at all.
Tremendous Production At
Cleanup between Jakers and Olivoyl.
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Okay, now for the bottom of the...
hey, where the hell did the fourth go? I was writing a comment and missed it.
Manatee No 3-1
=fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
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Daytime Brainy Inducing
Popups and weak grounders as only he can.
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well...chien mien wang is popular amongst the chinese taipei little league baseball team
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
did the Curacao team still big into Andruw Jones?
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dunno....
just was flipping through and heard the chinese kids trying to speak english and was weirdly fascinated
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Day Banny
Master of Sabermetrics and Friendship for everyone.
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
Yu-Bet Owes A
Dinger after that ridiculous 2B trot the other night.
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One thing you can say for sure
Dayton Moore doesn’t have to worry about looking for a #9 hitter in the offseason
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Joker Slams The
Bat down after K’ing an a pitch 2 feet out of the zone; he cares!
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bob exploded on air
but since it’s bob, it’s impossible to know if Yuni’s catch warranted the excitement. How good was the play?
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Very Good; It
Was a smash. He lunged to his right and caught it fully laid out. I think the ball was past him when he snagged it.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuni...
Okay, he’s been outstanding this series. The Twins announcers screamed so loudly over that snag, they almost threw up.
Mitch Makes It
Interesting; is the grass wet today?
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The Carlos Gomez Outfield adventure continues
how does this guy hold down a job involving fielding in the Metrodome?
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In play, no out
Gameday rules
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
DDJ Slowly Climbs
Back to respectability.
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He better not be smiling right now
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
Pena bunts and DeJesus stays on second
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WHY IS PENA BUNTING!
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It Was Off
The plate; DDJ thought it was foul. I was just ready to make a bunt joke, but I can’t top that one.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
soooo....another heads up play on the bases by Davey?
color me shocked
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW,
according to adjusted wRAA, DDJ moved over the average line for hitter value for the first time after last nights game
Obviously, he’s still killing the team.
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Manatee Missed His
Pitch, up and away, arms fully extended, fouled straight back.
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I'd like to see Pena somewhere else in the order
if he was more free to swing away this series, he might have done some damage.
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what a game
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
this llws game is way too similar to most royals games....
fielders just collided….a runner stayed on third when he shouldve gone home…etc
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
a home run would be nice
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OK
2 strikes that should be balls
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Ball 4
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What the fucking shit?
HOw many fucking innings are we going to BUNT OURSELVES OUT OF TREY HILLMAN YOU GODDAMN IDIOT
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This is a battle
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Ive said it before...
but since Jakers OBP is like .080 higher than his BA I think we may be a little harsh on the guy. I mean he isn’t good, but the guy walks about as much as anybody on the team .
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, I'm willing to say he sucks ass, nice enough guy, but
I can’t decide on who is the best emblem of the DMGM 08-09 era:
WIllie Bloomquist, the utility player without utility
Kyle Farnsworth, the reliever who can’t deal with leverage
or
Mike Jacobs, the designated hitter who can’t hit
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jacobs
is hard to hate, isn’t he? He just picked up both DDJ and Butler by actually looking like a solid hitter.
Yes!
Jake delivers!
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Hey, Mike Jacobs with a game-tying 2-out hit….
the extraordinary story that you don’t hear more about: Mike Jacobs working long counts despite being a tall dude with a big strikezone and an uppercut swing
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Not sure Pavano threw him a single strike theree
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Any, Period
But he’s actually cutting his swing down with 2 strikes and protecting the plate, albeit kind of the way my dog “protects” my house by chasing passing cars. It worked this time. He used to strike out and miss by 2 feet at times.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
hit on a ball low and away
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I Am Shocked!
It looks like Seitzer has convinced him to keep his eyes open when he swings; progress!
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or not
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No, You Called
It.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Callaspo/Ortiz HR update..
Callaspo 7
Ortiz 20
How in the hell does Ortiz have 20 HR’s? Wasn’t he on pace for zero after like 50 games?
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My fantasy team appreciates his contributions
A waiver wire pick up from the scrap heap. He’s been hitting them since I grabbed him. You can credit me.
one of my fantasy leagues I missed the draft...
and got stuck with him, I dropped him before opening day
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I was so power deficient I took a chance
His line since I picked him up:
35 runs 16 HR 47 RBI .257 in a little more than 200 ABs.
d'oh
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what
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuddyer jack
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
d'oh
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So according to Gamd Day...
would it be safe for me to say that Banny is getting squeezed?
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and then that happened
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on my Royal pride and viewing the last 2 innings in Gameday
I’d say he’s trying to make us lose
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Add l's
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If We Could
Meld them, we’d have one huge, crappy lefty.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So Banny gives up a dinger then a double...
no reason to think Hillman wont throw him another 40 pitches
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Farnsworth

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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is he even on this team?
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Over 9 Million
Reasons. We will eat a good portion of that.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I'd clean my motorcycle
during the Twins half. Didn’t even get the hose started and the tie is gone.
did I miss something, is Robinson Tejeda on the DL or something?
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the actual DL or the metaphorical Hillman Doghouse DL?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He only uses Tejada
for like 4 inning runs when the starter is over 100 pitches in like 4 innings I thought
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Farnsworth Is In
Move along now, nothing to see here.
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1 pitch
in play, no out. Brilliant
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
You've got to be
kidding me. Hillman out to be drowned in the Royals fountains. It won’t take one pitch for farnsworth to get into trouble.
Why In Hell
Is the SS covering with a RHB up?
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The Body Of
My post got lost; why was SS covering with a RHB up?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We Are A
Lab experiment at this point, no?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I can't watch Sportscenter tonight
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
was that a legit triple or a Josh "Wheelz" Anderson special?
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I Think He
Handled it without using his feet.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Carlos Gomez would decide whether or not he's good
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I Think Pena
Left his feet to catch that one.
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A bunch of damn disgraces
each and every one of them. They do realize that they are professionals right?
Not every single one of them. A little bit of overreacting?
and why does it even matter if we win or not? The race for Harper continues!
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They Cash The
Checks.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Will someone go down the reliver list and tell us who will be gone next year?
That is my only hope of sanity.
Sadly, Chad Durbin
Would be our #2 or 3 reliever now.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Get rid of anyone with an ERA over 4.5.
and most of the ones with ERAs between 4 and 4.5.
then Farnsy might stay
coming into this game he had an era of 4.38 I think
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL @ this "team".
Worst team in Royals history. I feel bad for bannister, talk about a bad line thanks to non-existent infield defense.
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You mean how Teahen
simply refused to bend over and field the ball earlier?
Mark Has Whiffed
On 2 balls right at him today. Gordon is much better over all at 3B.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hillman is a tool
he’s GOT to be under orders to fuck things up as badly as he can. Stranger things have happened, I know. But otherwise, he’s the worst manager who ever stood in a dugout. Our wives, nieces and girlfriends knew that bringing in Farnsworth was a sure way to end this game.
Off topic:
Mets/Philies just ended on an unassisted triple play. Pretty cool.
Oooh I need to see that
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it's probably not up yet..
just saw it on mlb.tv bonus coverage.
by billexgordler on Aug 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
We're paying Farnsworthless $4.5M next year, right?
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Rain Or Shine
And it’s pouring now.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile
Trey is hanging him out to dry, Gobble-style.
by 2X2L on Aug 23, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's Being Gobbled
For sure.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that'll show him for getting in an argument with him...
about taking him out to soon!
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's the Major League
scenario. They want this team to finish last and Hillman is ordered to make it happen.
Farnsy throwing his performance in Bale/Mahay/Colon's faces
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Cuddyer=Beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111
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5 runs given up by Farnsworthless
but he’s awesome when it doesn’t matter!
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I miss Gordon
He could have pitched better than this
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
A-Gor?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
or even TPJ
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bring Him Up
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think McClure should resort to waterboarding to fix the bullpen problems
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Boogie Boarding
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Right Arm Amputated
At the collar bone sounds like the cure.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
May not be good enough
Billy Wagner (the flame throwing lefty) started his career as a flame throwing Righty
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought that was when he was a kid.....
not as a professional
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 23, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea when it happend...
I just know that he can throw 100 with both arms
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
At Once?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
probably..
he can also palm a medicine ball
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Give Farnsworth to one of the Little League teams as a ball boy
And send Hillman packing. Not tomorrow, not at the end of the game, right now.
That's Being Shellfish
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Farnsworth has given up 0 ER in situations where he didn’t enter with a save situation, tie game, or the Royals down by less than 3
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EXTEND THAT MOTHER EFFING FUCKER!
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I Wouldn't Care
If he could actually execute it.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll give you 2-7 odds
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Pete Rose Wants
Some of that.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Werd
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
3 hits and no runs...only us
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions
PRODUCTIVE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
We’re only down 7 now; here we come, bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I would be more pissed if we lost 9-8 than if we get shut out the rest of the way
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Brayan Pena hitting left-handed sure is thrilling stuff
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He Did Hit
The game tieing HR that way.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce Chen is still on this team?
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he is fantastic for one innin
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"Teahen has had some tough chances at third" - Denny
some he has actually touched
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Yu-Bet With The
Cool, nonchalant sidearm flip in the dirt. I really don’t like him.
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To Really Hate
Him.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
who?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy will double here...
of course there is no one on base so it wont matter, and he will die there all alone
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Well...
…when the score was 1-0, I went away for awhile. OK, I’ll be frank – I went away from the computer to have sex w/my girlfriend.
Little did I know you guys were gettin’ fucked, too.
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Cabrera Bobbles, Double
Clutches, makes a tuna salad sandwich, still almost gets Manatee.
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So Does Manatee
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals Should
Paint themselves blue and take the field naked shouting “FREEDOM!” Maybe draw and quarter Farnsworth after the game.
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Maybe These Guys
Would groove with them anyway.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They Hate Me
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe This

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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just remembered something
wasn’t the reason we went with a 13 pitcher staff was so Trey could go with the early hook if it appeared one of the relievers wasn’t doing well? Was he watching the seventh inning?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
payback for Farnsy getting in an argument with him earlier this week
about pulling him too early
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He Showed Farnsworth
Who’s boss.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
the last time he did that to Farnsworth
Farnsworth snapped on him
the only way to make it on this team is to snap on Trey.
Which is why Kila must choke Trey out to get playing time in September
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Watching And Seeing
Are not the same.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
HATE
I’ve actually gotten to the point where I hate this team. Not the Royals, mind – but this collection of players. And I hate Trey & his stupidity. Don’t hate Moore yet, but I’m leaning toward “actively dislike”.
I honestly can’t wait for this turd of a season to be over. And it friggin’ KILLS me to say that.
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I'm with you, DiggityDawg
I was one of those guys who couldn’t muster a bad things to say about the Royals in recent years. This year, if they’d done something significant, like fired Trey in July, I might have been right back there. And let’s face it: it might have made at least a marginal difference. Dealing Teahan would have made me draw the blade from my throat, too.
Sticking by Hillman
has been the biggest knee to the groin to me. Forget the Yuni trade, the Anderson trade. Hillman is such a flagrantly bad manager, and so bad for morale, that keeping him aboard sends the loudest message.
If I ever squander a sunny Sunday in late August
staying home to watch the Royals, please kick me in the Jimmy a couple dozen times.



















