Royals Probably Just Need More Catchers, Utility Guys, and Relievers on The Roster
by Freneau on Aug 23, 2009 12:18 AM EDT
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I thought Anderson's defense and speed would make up for his lack of a bat?
He’s worse than Guillen out there. Guillen would have just played it on the hop.
I just took a process and I must say I feel much better.
I had a fantasy football draft this evening so I missed our futile attempt at winning. How did we manage to screw this one up? Don’t go into details, just give me the highlights.
Mahay allowed both inherited runners to score....
Bale couldn’t get anyone out……we were pitiful with runners in scoring position.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 23, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Bale faced two LHB
and couldn’t get either one out
At least Trey was attentive enough to pull Bale before he gave up a big hit to a RHB
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I missed the game last night, due to a block party (more fun)
remember, Bale is not a situational lefty.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
These guys invent different ways to lose every night
when they loaded the bases I was waiting for the sac fly and Butler to get a charley horse on the way to the plate. He collapses in pain and they tag him out for the double play. I haven’t been angrier than I was tonight. My wife took the beer away from me because tonight I finally had seen enough and started screaming at the screen. I’ve got a little league team that I coach that can turn the pivot on the double play, hit the cutoff man. They even cut down on their swing and sacrifice the personal stats to get the run across. How is it that my team of 11 year olds is more fundamentally sound than guys that actually get PAID to do this?
Fire Hillman. I watched that clown pull a starter tonight for absolutely no reason and put in Mahay. I already have my tickets for the end of the season series at the Metrodome but I’ll be damned if I’m gonna wear my Royals gear. People up here laugh at me now.
I’m sorry for venting but I’ve reached my breaking point. Bad management, bad personnel, bad execution. Its embarrassing…
You can't leave
No one ever leaves. Once you’re a Royals fan, you’re stucking rooting for mindless mediocrity forever.
No one gets out alive.
i wish we could be mediocre
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Buntzilla Anderson kind of looks like the banjo playing kid from Deliverance.
I was at the game. So here are some notes.
1) Carlos Gomez is an adventure in Centerfield
2) Josh Anderson is a four-tool player at sucking. Hasn’t shown much of an arm, doesn’t hit for average, doesn’t hit for power, doesn’t field well. All he does is bunt and run fast. Josh Anderson is Joey Gathwhite. Only crappier. Bringing Gathright back would be a better idea than playing Anderson. Anderson may not be the best outfielder the Tigers DFAed this summer.
3) Ron Mahay to pitch to RHB? Are you fucking kidding?
4) John Bale sucks like usual. What a fucking turd.
5) Not pinch hitting for Buntzilla in the 7th or 9th was just inexcusable
6) having 8 relievers when Willie Bloomquist is day to day and your bench is two guys is inexcusable
7) Bobby Keppel sucks
8) Miguel Olivo’s fielding is fucking dreadful, especially letting Mauer reach on a strikeout
9) Asking Brayan Pena to bunt twice against LHP?
10) Twins fans are the most tolerable of all invading fans
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by BHWick on Aug 23, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
also
Maier is above average in CF, Anderson is way below average in CF
just being fast doesn’t mean everything for CF
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You're telling lies.
CF need to do one thing: steal bases.
Regards,
Dayton Moore
Apparently
You don’t even understand how The Process™ is evaluated.
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Aug 23, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing about this team makes any sense
They do the same crap over and over and expect things to change. Pena (who is arguably one of the better hitters on the team) is asked to bunt. WOW. Did anyone expect Anderson to score the runner all the way from first base with two outs in the 9th? I’d rather take the NW Arkansas Naturals and just transplant them to KC and send this collection of clowns down and let them work on fundamentals. Its clear they won’t be able to keep up when it comes to scoring runs so extra attention should be paid to just pitching and catching the ball when it comes to you. These guys lay down quicker than a two dollar whore. They bend over ass backwards to find ways to give the game to the opposition. Last night it was putting people in right field that don’t know how to play the position. Tonight its making sure all the relief pitchers that suck get into the game. Its so bad that is laughable.
the fundamental problem
is not that this team can’t properly bunt. It’s that this team doesn’t have the discipline to lay off bad pitches, hit good pitches, and get things done offensively. The problem involves a manager who doesn’t define roles, a team where there’s no flexibility offensively, and no punishment if you fuck up.
The Pitching Speed and Defense cultists don’t realize that when your offense is awful, you place a lot of pressure on your pitching and defense to be perfect.
Also, you don’t need to overpay for relievers. If not for the Mahay deal, the Cruz deal, the Farnsworth deal, and the Bale deal, we could have some flexibility to bring new arms up here.
The Twins have fucking Bobby Keppel, a guy who washed out of KC 3 years ago, in their pen, and our pen has highly paid guys who suck eggs.
The part of your post about how this team lays down is going to touch close to some favorites here. People don’t like hearing about how a DeJesus or a Teahen isn’t firey enough. Granted, those people don’t recall that Teahen’s K:BB ratio is worse than Mike Jacobs either. The big difference between Teahen and Jacobs is that Teahen is extremely lucky with the balls he hits and Jacobs is extremely unlucky.
Billy Butler is a guy who wants to win. He slams down his helmet after a close wrenching out (like he did tonight on the 4-3 to get him out). There are some guys who you can doubt their fire to win baseball games.
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
People don’t like hearing about how a DeJesus or a Teahen isn’t firey enough.
Because certain people feel as if the subjective "fire isn’t very relevant “playing baseball well.”
Granted, those people don’t recall that Teahen’s K:BB ratio is worse than Mike Jacobs either.
Do they really “not recall” this?
The big difference between Teahen and Jacobs is that Teahen is extremely lucky with the balls he hits and Jacobs is extremely unlucky.
There are several big differences between Teahen and Jacobs, none of which have much to do with luck. Firstly, Teahen is athletic enough to at least PLAY other positions than first, even if he’s not particularly good in the field. Jacobs is a born DH with negative defensive value at the easiest defensive position to play (1B) if put on the field.
Secondly, Teahen’s not really more “lucky” than Jacobs so much as his higher LD% and GB% suggest he should (and does) hit for a higher average than Jacobs. Mark’s LD% is 20%, Mike’s is 17%. That makes a substantial difference since about 75% of LDs go for hits.
Finally, Jacobs is still grading out overall as just below replacement. Teahen, even with his poor play as of late, is a full win above him according to WAR. If only he had Jacobs’ “fire.”
"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"
by NHZ on Aug 23, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
P.S. Just two notes
According to THT’s xBABIP calculator, while Jacobs has been slightly unlucky and Teahen lucky, it’s not enough of a difference to make Jacobs close to as valuable as Teahen. Jacob’s BABIP is .284, his xBABIP is .296. I guess might get his OBP up to about about .315! Teahen’s BABIP is currently .348, and his xBABIP is .332… which would take him down a bit… but at worst worst, that would make Teahen the same hitter as Jacobs with good luck, and then there’s defense…
Oh, yes, and then there’s platoon issues… The average LHH sees about one-third of his PAs vs. LHP. Mark Teahen has had 38.4% of his PAs vs. LHP, Jacobs has had 26.8% of his pAs vs. LHP, so Jacobs has had the platoon advantage more than Teahen… and still has sucked.
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Good notes
I did see the XBABIP thing, but the platoon advantage seems to kind of even out the luck factor involved.
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I had to REALLY watch myself from getting in trouble when Hillman sacrifice bunted in the 5th, DOWN THREE RUNS. Unbelievable! Down three, 1st and 2nd nobody out, relatively early in the game, and your 2,3, and 4 hitters coming up. Brayan Pena vs a lefthander might be the 3rd best hitter on the entire fucking team (behind only Butler and Callaspo), and Hillman is managing like he was born an entire century late and it’s still the fucking deadball era or something.
I try not to overreact too much to game decisions from a KC manager, considering he is usually hampered with poor personnel – but when one does something THIS stupid, I have to say something.
I thought I was way past anger and in full acceptance for a while now – but shit this stupid can easily throw me back a few steps in the grieving process. It’s bad enough we have a owner who doesn’t care about winning, a GM that doesn’t believe in sabermetrics or proper roster construction, and a roster full of incompetent players. Is it too much to ask that the manager doesn’t compound all of that by making idiotic decisions? Why, yes, that apparently IS too much to ask.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
fucking sac bunt culties
sac bunting isn’t the big problem. The lack of an offense is the big problem
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While I wouldn't have done it in the 8th with Pena up either,
at least at that point it is a defendable decision. (down 1 in the 8th). In the fifth, down three? Absurd.
For those who did not get to see the game tonight, in the 6th, down FOUR, the Royals again had 1st and 2nd no outs. Betancorpse was up, and even though he sucks, I STILL would rather he swing away. Hillman had him squaring around to bunt TWICE in that AB too! Yes, he did strikeout, but we were down FOUR!
I rewatched the FSKC broadcast after working, and sure enough, Ryan and Frank were actually praising the bunt in the fifth. Needless to say, nobody talked about the propriety of giving away one of your precious 27 outs in an 8-7 game.
Earl Weaver would be rolling in his grave if he had to watch this team. (Not sure if Earl is dead?)
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Its too bad there aren't any old school managers like Weaver left
Bobby Cox is about as close as we can come today. Weaver woud have taken on Farnsworth last night without thinking about it.
The funny part is that Earl was very new school
He used statistics, emphasized defense, employed platoons, and preferred the three-run homer to bunting.
This team would send Earl to his grave
(Yes, he’s still alive).
actually praising
suggests that there is a time that they wouldn’t praise a bunt
Idk who would be more supportive of Frank White managing this team after his commentating stint
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I think Frank could be a good coach
as he sounds very intelligent when talking about baseball and strategy, or even fundamentals. But his love affair with moving runners over and sacrifice bunts is bad. I mean, those things have a time and a place, but giving up outs regularly with those tactics is a recipe for failure and scoring even fewer runs than we do now. I’ll take a sac bunt in the late innings to try to tie the game up, or take the lead. And batters should be expected to move runners by altering their approach with 2 strikes. Beyond that would just baffle me. I truly believe that Frank and Ryan would love to see bunts 57 times a game.
Then again, Frank did manage AA Wichita to their championship series. However, that team had more talent on it than the current MLB Royals do.
You know
At the end of the year, Callaspo projects to be right on the dividing line for qualifying for arbitration as a Super 2. To make sure he does not incur enough service time to qualify, the Royals should send him down and call up Duckworth to help out in long relief.
Billy Butler
was 0-3 with RISP. Therefore, it’s obviously all his fault, and he should immediately be traded to Seattle for Yuniesky Betancourt.
This space for rent.
The guy is just so damn talented
but with those terrible RISP numbers tonight, I’m beginning to think all that helmet and bat slamming might just be an act, that he’s just another spoiled brat wasting his talent like Manny Ramirez and J.D. Drew.
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he didnt play for the braves/mariners
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Aug 23, 2009 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else wonder why
we don’t pick up guys like Luis Pena, 26, was 3-1 this season with a 2.86 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP in six appearances between Single-A and Double-A. Instead running these same ass clown relievers out.
Your killin me smalls....
Billy is still more clutch than Teahen with RISP, even if he had a bad game.
and it seems like he cares more than any of these other lifeless trolls…
1977 & 1989 Royals - We shoulda won it all dammit
by Trey_has_no_pulse on Aug 23, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions
Most of the team is a reflection of the manager
Happy to be in “the bigs” but generally bored with this “winning” you guys get all worked up about.
1977 & 1989 Royals - We shoulda won it all dammit
by Trey_has_no_pulse on Aug 23, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions
Actually, I think we need more analysis
of the 2009 team. I don’t think that we have a read on them yet. Let’s discuss it some more. I’d like to explore the makeup of this roster. For example, how is this team defensively? Is Miguel Olivo the answer at C? How about Mike Jacobs? I think he is going to have a great last month. I’m also curious to see if Alex can come back up and help us avoid 100 losses.
We need more analysis of the current year's team
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
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