Monday Morning Royals Links
by Freneau on Aug 24, 2009 9:00 AM EDT
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- Rany on the Royals: Minor League Update, Part 3.
- The Pipeline: Royals on the Farm 8/22
- The Pipeline: Royals on the Farm 8/21 -- Lamb slaughters for Idaho Falls, close to perfect
- Royal Reflections: Queue the circus music
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Read Rany's post
Granted, I would take what Rany says with a grain of salt, because 1) he’s got an agenda now against the Royals/DM (justified or not) and 2) Rany is stat-oriented, and DM appears not to be, so he’s not going to like him anyway. But, if in fact the minor leagues are not just overflowing with talented young ballplayers, DM needs to go. Period.
I fully expect a top 10 BA ranking by the end of this year and a top 5 ranking by the end of next year, with the resources he’s been given. No more bullshit, no more talk, it’s way, way past time for results. I’m going to wait and see, because I think that it has to be beyond obvious that major changes need to be made to the roster. Not panic and give up on The Process™ type-changes, but a serious analysis of what went wrong and what can be done better or different.
When there is an absolute failure this spectacular and all-encompassing, if you don’t completely re-evaluate what you’re doing and make positive changes to improve, then you are an idiot. I fully expect DM to make those changes, and if he doesn’t then he has got to go. This is sickening, embarrassing, and ridiculous.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 24, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
Just to add
as an example-the Titanic was supposed to be unsinkable, and we all know how that turned out. I don’t know this for a fact, but I would venture to guess that shipbuilders all over the world completely re-evaluated what they thought they knew about shipbuilding in light of those events. It doesn’t matter that the ship was “supposed to be” unsinkable, and maybe what happened was a one in a million confluence of events that led to the sinking. The point is, it doesn’t matter. The failure occurred and it is incumbent upon people to learn from it.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 24, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I recall...
the Titanic sank because they used poor quality steel, that was way to brittle to be used for what it was used for. Dont quote me on this, but Im pretty sure i saw that on the Discovery channel or read it in a book or heard it from a Hobo, one of those.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I Seem To
Remember it was the rivets that were too brittle, but I could be wrong.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 24, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to remember
It was because they signed Jose Guillen.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 24, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do know that...
if the Titanic hit the iceberg head on it wouldn’t have sank, the reason it sank was because the captain tried to avoid it and it ripped a whole in the side when it hit.
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We could all figure this out by looking at wikipedia,
but it’s more enjoyable to go on memory.
If I recall correctly, it was due to a faster method in the steel making process. Adding sulfur or something like that to make the steel faster to produce but had the side effect of being comparatively brittle.
because Wikipedia is such a good news source
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
well, it's not technically a source
but i’ve never experienced much wrong with it unless i was looking up information that was somewhat controversial.
fair enough...
and thats not to say that I haven’t done presentations nearly entirely sourced from that website, to be honest I actually read the sources on Wikipedia, I use Wikipedia as the starting point.
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that the same thing that caused the skywalk in KC to collapse?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
AND DING DING DING!!!
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/2008/09/25/the-secret-of-how-the-titanic-sunk.html
phil was correct.
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My Memory For
The trivial got me through HS with a B average, even though I essentially quit going after 9th grade. Bring on the tests!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 24, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I can’t see us getting a top 10 BA ranking with Hos and Moose having such disappointing seasons. Certainly we have a few interesting pitchers – Duffy, Montgomery, Melville – but when your two top five picks have such disappointing seasons, your organization takes a huge hit.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 24, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
BA's Top 10 Royals Prospects 2009
1. Mike Moustakas, ss
2. Eric Hosmer, 1b
3. Daniel Cortes, rhp
4. Mike Montgomery, lhp
5. Tim Melville, rhp
6. Danny Duffy, lhp
7. Danny Gutierrez, rhp
8. Carlos Rosa, rhp
9. Kila Ka’aihue, 1b
10. Blake Wood, rhp
One clear improvement (Montgomery), one modest improvement (Duffy), two about the same (Melville, Kila), four whose stock has slipped due to performance (Moustaskas, Hosmer, Rosa) or other other reasons (Gutierrez), one who is now considered a marginal prospect (Wood), and one who was traded for a player that 29 other teams would not claim on waivers (Cortes).
As if my opinion mattered at all...
… here are my predictions for the above list. The first number will stand for the chance the player will play more than one season in the majors. The second number will stand for the chances the player will prove to be an above average MLB player.
Moustakas – RF (He will be a RF by the time he comes up) – 95% – 30%
Hosmer – 1B (we won’t even be able to guess until 2010)
Cortes – RHP – (Who cares now)
Montgomery – LHP – (we won’t even be able to guess until 2010)
Melville – RHP – (we won’t even be able to guess until 2011)
Duffy – LHP – 80% – 40% (as at least a LHP in the bullpen)
Gutierrez – RHP – 30% – 20%
Rosa – RHP – 75% – 25% (as a RHP in the bullpen)
Ka’aihue – 1B – 90% – 20% (“above average” is a pretty tough critera when it comes to firstbasemen)
Wood – RHP – 50% – 10% (as a back-end starter or middle relief hand)
So, of the six guys in that list that are at all known qualities so far the Royals are likely to get about 1.85 players and 2.45 relief pitchers. If lucky two of them will break average at the major league level. I think there is little chance any of those players will become true impact players at the MLB level (top 10% for thier position.) Duffy probably has the best chance of reaching this level.
Just my opinion.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
will Hosmer's prescription glasses have arrived by 2010?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
I liked his post as well
I am getting closer to feeling this way about the team. It seems to me that the most damning thing about this year’s team is that there are no rookies on the team! None! Nor have any played this year (that I can remember). This speaks to no rebuilding and nothing going on at the AAA level, or else they would have been called up to replace the suckitude on the team now. Can I wait two more years for the AA players to show up? Don’t know, but I’m not getting any younger and may be completely senile by then.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
There is no way we get a top 10 organizational ranking yet
I suppose this would be possible in another year or two – but when AAA and AA are still relatively barren (only Lough & Bianchi could be considered good, young prospects from those two levels – Kila and Rosa are older now), many other orgs are gonna rank ahead of us. I would guess we fall somewhere between 15 and 25, in other words, middle of the pack.
I do think there are plenty of good looking prospects – just that they are all at high A or lower levels at this point.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Even more damning
Bianchi is a Baird draft pick
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 24, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Allard Baird:
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 24, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
which is why he works in Boston now.
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything will be all good on Sep 1.
when Guillen puts himself back in RF and the starting lineup every day.
And by "all good"
you mean our quest to catch the Nationals will be enhanced.
Trust the process. Bryce Harper shall be ours.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
It's " All Good" then
When super delayed gratification meets with underachieving veteran they laugh at the Royals, just a hypothesis though
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 24, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
We were 11th or 12th last year
With all of the $$$ we’ve sunk into it, how could our minor leagues be 15th-25th? If that’s the case, then this is an epic failure and Moore needs to be gone yesterday. I’m going to still wait and see, but I can’t imagine us not being in the top 10.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 24, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Hosmer & Moustakas
Both admittedly having less than hoped for seasons. That alone should be enough to drop us in the rankings.
I hope I’m wrong.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
We've got exactly zero studs coming through our system
I’d say the whole thing regressed this year, even with the new draft talent. Crow will be a nice addition to the system, but he really shouldn’t be there long, and may never be if he wants to be stupid.
The Hos and Mous have both had not so great years. I bet the Royals promote them to AA anyways, and they both breakout as the stadium they are in now saps their offense. Plus, Hos is getting glasses, which is never a good sign. Most great hitters have ridiculous eyesight. At least we know why Hos was taking walks! He couldn’t see the ball!
If this Royals season were a Star Wars movie, it would be The Empire Strikes Back. This season is going about the worst way imaginable. Maybe it will get better if we bring in some Ewoks.
Which is to say
I think it will get better, but looking at where things went this year, our system seems to be crapping out. There are a few bright spots like Lough.
There really is no way to tell how many MLers have contacts though.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I overheard some Royal's scouts in Wilmington last week.
Here is the transcript:
Scout #1 – Shit, Hosmer can’t hit at all.
Scout #2 – Maybe he is blind?!?! He swings like he is blind.
Scout #1 – Let’s look into that possiblity.
Scout #2 – Is Moustaka’s maybe blind as well?
Scout #1 – Nah, watch him field this next line drive. He reacts like a cat when he is fielding the hot corner.
THUNK!
Scount #1 – Let’s order some glasses for the both of them.
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Is it really a GM's fault when a can't miss player misses?
Granted if both Moustakis and Hosmer fail then maybe it is, but isn’t the baseball draft the biggest crap shoot of all the major sports drafts?
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when he was hired for that very reason, and has sucked at the AL level, then yes
was it Allards fault that Griffin and Lubanski failed? just the business
couldn't agree more
if any one player doesn’t pan out, yes you can’t really blame a GM for that. But, if it consistently happens, the GM has to be to blame for that. Sure, if Moose doesn’t pan out, them’s the breaks. But then, Hos needs glasses, Crow doesn’t sign or signs late and never develops, Runion flames out, Gutierrez feuds with the organization, etc. etc.
Tired of talk, I want to see results. My only hope has been that the minors were going to just explode with one player after another. It’s only a couple of years, but it doesn’t appear to be happening. And if that’s the case, that is a really, really bad sign for baseball in KC. Glass will go cheap again and this organization as we know it will die.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 24, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Crow never signs and never pans out?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 24, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe it would be better to forgo Crow
and try again next year with pick 12B. In any case, it will get fucked up somehow. I’m back on the Nicolas Cage Leaving Las Vegas-style downswing I suppose. Now all I need is a sleazy whore to “cheer me up”
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 24, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not when a higher percentage of your picks fail than the other 29 organizations
At some point, it ceases to be a crap shoot/coincidence, and begins to become organizational incompetence.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Yu-Bet!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 24, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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