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Kansas City Royals starting pitcher Gil Meche talks with Royals catcher John Buck, after Meche gave up four runs to the Seattle Mariners, his former team, in the first inning of a MLB baseball game, Saturday, Aug. 29, 2009, at Safeco Field in Seattle. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

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2 months ago: Kansas City Royals starting pitcher Gil Meche talks with Royals catcher John Buck, after Meche gave up four runs to the Seattle Mariners, his former team, in the first inning of a MLB baseball game, Saturday, Aug. 29, 2009, at Safeco Field in Seattle. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

 

  • Yea Dayton, you just had nothing to work with from the previous administration. I think people are starting to realize that if Baird was truly as bad as he was portrayed, this would be a 125 loss team.
  • Mitch Maier for 2010 starting CF now. Now!
  • For a guy who has been relegated to third string afterthought for no apparent reason (other than not being a Dayton Guy) John Buck can do some things. A smart team is going to acquire him and he's going to become part of a strong, probably cheap, catching platoon.
  • I have no desire to see Gil Meche pitch anymore this season. Since we're already committed to a death run for a playoff spot in 2010, the best thing now is to shut down Gil for the meaningless remainder of 2009. There's just no benefit to continually sending him out there. Of course, given that both Hillman and Moore are in, and have been in for months, full cover your ass mode, I fully expect another month of Meche starts. They've gotta save face and lose "only" 92 games if at all possible.

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postgame time

time to hear about how our defense is worse than our offense, why Brayan Pena shouldn’t play for the Royals in 2010 and why Callaspo should be on the bench

Graduate with a B.S. from the Dayton Moore School of Stats Analysis

by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rob is restrained

hasn’t brought up moving Yuni to 2nd base yet. Since you don’t need to move to your left while at 2nd base

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hm

Bryce Harper is represented by Satan?

well, if Moustakas and Hosmer are any guide, HARPER CANNOT FAIL

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and

Rob going on a talk about how DM didn’t pick Wieters due to his price and mentions it’s a preparation for not picking Harper

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he say

In one of his bullshit sessions interviews last week that they kind of had a bit of an inside track on Harper, that they had talked to him and whatever. Next to useless, with him being a Borass guy, but it might mean they are inclined towards trying it.

by kcbottom9th on Aug 30, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harper is a catcher, we don't need any more catchers

why else did we pass on Posey and Wieters?

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore fucked up

thats all. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

I wish we had the Giants two guys Bumgarner and Posey. Wait, maybe we should have drafted LIncecum.

Now that I’m thinking about it why don’t i just root for the Giants intsead? (i do root for them too)

Atleast Sabean is a tofal fucking moron like Moore and knows how to do one thing well (draft). Moore has not done anything right!!! It was a Baird scout that discovered Soria. And Meche/his contract look horrilbe right now

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 30, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said

They have someone (I assume he’s an area scout) who has already gotten to know the family pretty well.

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Aug 30, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget the Bryce Harper talk

You all should know damn well that the Nationals will finish worse than the Royals and get him. As terrible as we are.. the Nationals are worse. I keep hoping the Nationals will pick things up.. a quick look at the standings every other day and I can easily see the Royals have no hope of catching them to claim the title of shittiest team in baseball. Dang it

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by JChief on Aug 30, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding?

I think the Nationals have a winning record since Aug 1.

by AxDxMx on Aug 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Like Mitch

Whatever the reason it hadn’t before, his moderate power in AAA seems to have finally made it to KC. Which is a big deal, in that if it stays (no reason it shouldn’t) you have a guy who plays good defense, gets on base at a vaguely reasonable-ish rate (Bondsian compared to some Royals) and has a respectable amount of power (for a CF).

Not Grady Sizemore or anything, but a problem solved.

by kcbottom9th on Aug 30, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at the very least

a cheap option, decent, option for one year

by royalsreview on Aug 30, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I like Maier a little now

He knows how to walk. And doesn’t look like absolute crap anymore. I’d’ be cool with him starting everyday in CF as long as Jacobs, Olivo, Buck and Crisp never play a game for the Royals again.

I’m all for Gordon starting in AAA and giving Teahen 3B until Gordon proves he’s healthy and can actually hit for power

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fully expect this

It will be a cheaper-base-but-big-incentive contract, but there’s maybe a 4% chance Coco Crisp is not a Royal next year.

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Aug 30, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This does not seem like a problem

As long as they do not take the option on Coco, then it is a good move. If he’s healthy, he playsa good center field and gets on base. Then Mitch would be a really nice addition as the 4th OF.

by bas on Aug 30, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why take a 1 year solution in Crisp?

When Maier would be much cheaper. If you’re going to lose, do it cheap. Besides, does Crisp deserve some kind of incentive laden contract, with a base of even $3-4M?

by AxDxMx on Aug 30, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Seattle newspapers are noting that ...

The Royals are paying Gil Meche more than twice as much as the Mariners are paying for every player who was in the Mariners starting lineup tonight.

by Steve Nelson on Aug 30, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ned Sweeney keeps pounding us. Just wait for him to return in 2010 as a bench bat when we realize that Mike Jacobs needs a platoon partner.

If we can carry 3 catchers, we will carry 2 DHs

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 2:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats why TPJ is being converted

So they can a have a 5 man bench comprising Catchers and DH’ers and TPJ, and still have a bloated 13 man pitching staff.

Roster management at it’s cutting edge best.

by kcbottom9th on Aug 30, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not quite there yet

if DM is forced away from Bryce Harper, then DM is irrelevant. Nothing worse than being irrelevant, because that’s what brought Baird down. Baird didn’t just do a bad job, he was also not respected.

How many GMs end their tenure without getting fired or resigning? How many GMs really just go through an entire year and then leave as their contract expires?

If DM looked stupid this year, imagine how stupid he’d get in 2010 if he was trying to get an extension.

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why the fuck did this site just redirect me to one of those bullshit “malware scan” virus sites?

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by BHWick on Aug 30, 2009 2:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its probably you

but i’ll notify tech support

by royalsreview on Aug 30, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am starting to have strange tingly feelings

about Mitch.

No, not in my nether regions, sheesh.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Aug 30, 2009 4:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mitch-induced paresthesias?

Get quick relief: acquire Willy Tavaras and Felix Pie and call me in the morning.

by 2X2L on Aug 30, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, that’s “Taveras”. Ask for it by name.

by 2X2L on Aug 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mitch is not a bad player

but, where does this team upgrade for 2010?

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 30, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't.

Stand pat, and Trust the Process™ is the best solution. Injuries brought us down this year. Don’t you know that?!?

by AxDxMx on Aug 30, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would love for the Royals to get Pie for cheap

No way do I want Dayton on the phone with MacPhail, though.

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by devil_fingers on Aug 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

just looking at fangraphs

he seems better defensively but a little less patient at the plate. would it be better to just stand pat? would it make sense to have meyyotch and pie both in the OF? not a ton of offense but would be pretty good defensively.

i have to think that any significant improvement in the team is going to have to involve getting guillen out of the outfield and put him at DH. if we don’t at least do that i’ll be extremely disappointed. while I’m not wild about him being a DH-only, I would think that he might improve offensively from less wear and tear on his legs.

i would maybe think that before releasing him, you might go that route-DH him to start the year, and if he isn’t cutting it then you release him and make Kila the full-time DH with other guys rotating through as needed.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 30, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100% agreed.

Of course, I’ve been advocating for Kila all summer. Jacobs shouldn’t be back next year at his salary, so I’ve wondered why Kila wasn’t getting a shot this season.

He can get 4, NOT 5.

by Warden11 on Aug 31, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kila could have reproduced Jacobs line this year

and had an OBP at least 50 points higher.

by AxDxMx on Aug 31, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just looking at fangraphs

he seems better defensively but a little less patient at the plate. would it be better to just stand pat? would it make sense to have meyyotch and pie both in the OF? not a ton of offense but would be pretty good defensively.

i have to think that any significant improvement in the team is going to have to involve getting guillen out of the outfield and put him at DH. if we don’t at least do that i’ll be extremely disappointed. while I’m not wild about him being a DH-only, I would think that he might improve offensively from less wear and tear on his legs.

i would maybe think that before releasing him, you might go that route-DH him to start the year, and if he isn’t cutting it then you release him and make Kila the full-time DH with other guys rotating through as needed.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just looking at fangraphs

he seems better defensively but a little less patient at the plate. would it be better to just stand pat? would it make sense to have meyyotch and pie both in the OF? not a ton of offense but would be pretty good defensively.

i have to think that any significant improvement in the team is going to have to involve getting guillen out of the outfield and put him at DH. if we don’t at least do that i’ll be extremely disappointed. while I’m not wild about him being a DH-only, I would think that he might improve offensively from less wear and tear on his legs.

i would maybe think that before releasing him, you might go that route-DH him to start the year, and if he isn’t cutting it then you release him and make Kila the full-time DH with other guys rotating through as needed.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see your point already

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Aug 30, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the moment, Pie's better both offensively and defensively

he’s also three years younger

unfortunatley, I’m pretty sure MacPhail knows his value much better than the fools running the Cubs who traded Pie for chump change.

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by devil_fingers on Aug 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right

not sure what I was looking at…pie does walk quite a bit less than mitch, however. what would a DDJ-Meyyyyyyyyyotch-Pie outfield be worth? About 5.5 WAR total? What would it take to get pie in your opinion?

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 30, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good News though

It’s college football season!! We made it. Big 12 football is the one thing a Royals fan has to look forward to after the All-Star Game.

Yes, I'm still alive. Sorry to disappoint you.

by royaldaddy on Aug 30, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch bro

The Royals suck. Cassel is out 2-4 weeks now and then you’re telling me the only beacon of hope I may have is futile as well? Damn it all!!!! Really though, KU should be really good which makes me want to projectile vomit like the girl from the Exorcist. I don’t care what they say. Mark it down. You heard it here first. Nebraska doesn’t come out of Columbia victorious. No way no how.

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by royaldaddy on Aug 30, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MU's run the last few years has been exciting, but I'm just not excited this year for rebuilding

Plus, my neighbor (who played at BS South with Dalton), told me last fall that Dalton would do something stupid at MU and get kicked off the team because the kid is a moron. Apparently, he was right.

by AxDxMx on Aug 31, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Big 12 North may be irrelevant

but it should be highly entertaining. Even if the winner is far inferior to the South, they still get a shot at a BCS game if they can get lucky in the Big 12 title game. Sort of like the AL Central, if the Royals could show any sort of competence.

by hunter s. royal on Aug 31, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose

But I expect Nebraska and KU to be better than MU, and I’m not a huge college football fan. But I hate KU, and Nebraska to a lesser extent.

by AxDxMx on Aug 31, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good News! The

Chiefs are also in the midst of a process!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=teamreports-2009-nfl-kan&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report

The word that Haley keeps using in describe the Chiefs’ current situation is "process."


"This whole thing is a process," said Haley. "I don’t know how many days we have left now but we’re going to be able to continue to go out and practice and continue to install and try to find our identity."


The passing game has struggled the most as Cassel tries to get on the same page with is receiving corps that lacks a bona fide No. 1 receiver.


"There are some good days and there are some bad days, but all in all I feel comfortable with where I’m at," Cassel said. "There are a lot of things you learn from the preseason as far as the offense goes, what routes will work against different coverages and stuff like that. It’s a process."


There’s that word again.

That’s a relief.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 30, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh god...

I really am this close to giving up on sports completely.

by AxDxMx on Aug 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i trust the chiefs process

More than the royals process

where's ross gload to explode the process?

by blue bandwagon on Aug 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

So Far It's

Only “a” process; if it becomes “The Process” and we mere benighted mortals could never aspire to comprehend its intricacies, I will start to worry.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 30, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm tired of hearing the process word

Mike Smith coined the term last year to talk about the Falcons reorganization and road to respectability.

Now everyone is using it, even rejects like Moore that can’t even spell the word

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And.....

Chiefs’ Kingdom Collapses with Cassel’s Fall

lmfao

Your killin me smalls....

by royalblue69 on Aug 30, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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