Game 106 Overflow Thread
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our bullpen rocks
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
JOHN BALE
Blows Always / Lead Evaporater
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John Bale/ Jamey Wright/ Juan Cruz/ ect. ect.
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess Trey texted gibby and told him to bring Bale in?
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Horri-Bale
Terri-Bale
Predicta-Bale
Flamma-Bale
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Push these bastards to the 8.1 mark or 9 to get to Soria
8.2?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Soria For 4
Innings is the only good option.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Or scoring 30 runs next half inning
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Than Do it !!!! Trey come on put Soria in for 4!!!!!!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing would surprise me
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
30 Runs Would
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Royals
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
yay bullpen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i thought we were going to make some moves once we got back to KC…………..
:(
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
dumping the bullpen
Is there any historical precedent for dumping all five of these 5+ ERA bullpen guys in the offseason?
You could tell
Ryan let down his guard a little in describing that throw to 1st.
I love how "Friends in Low Places"
coincides with the BP blowing the lead
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
It finally has been mathematically proven....I read this in Mathematics Proofs Quarterly
Royals Starter = Royals Starter * .85 (defense coefficient)
Royals Starter * .85 = Normal pitch count * 1.30
Normal pitch count * 1.30 = Royal Bullpen Appearance
Royal Bullpen Appearance + 10 minutes = Blown Save
Blown Save = Loss
Therefore….Royals Starter = Loss
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wait
we followed Bale with Jamey?
WTF?
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gotta get those ground ball dpzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
With Runners At
2B and 3B.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
aren't they loaded?
i don’t have my contacts in…..hard to see
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They IBB'd Griffey
After Jamey got his grounder to the mound.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok....thanks
i tend to not pay attention quite a bit…..helps me stay sane watching this team
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He's On A
Roll.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Here comes the Grand Slambamo
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
could gordon play a corner OF position?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
probably
you thinkin’ Beltre?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I say sign him and put him at SS!
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm Sure He'd
Be good at it.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't quite get your logic....
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he gets one from time to time
but I was a bit surprised there
Wow, 95 MPH
2-seamer. Wish he could do that consistently.
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Nationals win!
Royals could be only 6.5 games back with the normal bullpen performance here.
by swing and a miss on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
well, what do you mean by "sick"
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i was just jokin' around
Jamey wright is terrible
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
I really don’t have the energy to pity Mariners fans who have (seemingly) one of the brightest F.O.’s in the majors, Adrian Beltre, F-Gut, Tango, and, of course, the Two Greatest Players in History: Russell the Muscle and Ryan Langerhans.
“ooooo are RHH are so sucky” blah blah blah
YOU TRADED US YUNIESKY BETANCOURT, YOU BASTARDS, DON’T COME HERE FOR SYMPATHY
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
dont forget felix...he's fucking awesome to watch
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
are you TRYING to get me to kill myself?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i just need a partner in crime when i jump ship to the mariners....
they have some really good writers at both of their major websites too…and the fans are pretty smart
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going on a rampage
I already told Dave Cameron that he and Jack Z. better watch their backs
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I was genuinely impressed with Wright.
I now realize that’s probably the most offensive thing I could say.
Next you're going to expect us to thank you for Yuneifi
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You're killing me
you guys get Langerhans… and now he’s sitting. i think hejust needs to be donated to the Royals as a peace offering after the YBJ Trojan horse trade
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No no no no
Wright is awful. If he manages to get out of this he’ll be back to fail epically
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I Think The
Location was a blind pig thing, but that was unhittable.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ok now I don't want Beltre
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Why not?
You guys took Gutierrez, Branyan, Langerhans, and Tango
we can at least get a guy who can’t get around on Jamey’s “fast”-ball
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, Beltre probably wouldn't be a great investment as a FA unless he takes a substantial paycut from 15 million a year.
He’s awesome and underrated right now (he’s a consistent 3.5-4 WAR player, and a legitimate 10-20 glove right now), but if his range goes south in his early thirties he’s alot less valuable. He would be a good pickup for 2 years, but anything more is awfully risky.
I agree
there are a lot of good players out there, but I don’t think the Royals should make a serious investment in anyone over 30 since they won’t be contending until 2012 (at the earliest)
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and "2012" assumes Dayton becomes smart about right now
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta figure he's going to take a pretty hefty paycut dontcha?
with his downish year, age and the economy
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why I think he might just sign for 1 year
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
are you making up names for joakim too?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Call Him Joe
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He And TPJ
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
flamma-bullpen
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
bullshitpen
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Until he proves otherwise
John Bale must walk from the Bullpen to the Mound as “Firestarter” by Prodigy plays
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Ring of fire
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you always get me with these references!
(searching to find out who don draper is)….
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
walk, hbp,
granny-what say you?
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
bloop single that Blomquist turns into an inside=the-parker
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dive, Baby, Dive!
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
x

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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddd
now the wheels fall off……………………
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Jamey gets the groundball!
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Plop, Plop, Plop................
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And Rightly So
I don’t think you could say a good throw would have gotten him.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
mitch maier and bruce chen
tied in batting/fielding WAR, lol/lmao
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
by the way
why don’t they have fielding WAR for catchers? isn’t there a way to measure runs saved/given away with all the f-ing passed balls/wild pitches?
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
there is
but it’s different… I hve a peice in the pipeline on a crude (but effective) way to measure catcher defense, including Wp/PB
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
also, google "WOWY"
Tango’s good way of calculating catcher (and other) D, but it’s complicated. If you do WOWY + Brian Cartwright, you’ll get a link to his fangraphs peices on catcher d
spoiler alert:
Miguel Olivo is one of the 3 worst pitch blockers of the last 50 years. No kidding.
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
These 5+ ERA's for relievers
Statistically, how much worse for the team is a reliever with a 5 ERA than a starter, since the reliever also allows inherited runners to score?
yay!
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
pablo sandoval is really good
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
yup
I can’t wait for Sabean to trade him for Brandon Inge
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
haha frank comparing yuni to angel berroa now
by swing and a miss on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Yuniesky has a way of causing the Mariners to lose
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by BHWick on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm gonna rec this
because it’s so true
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
tee hee
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
"Pitching Coaches Always
Know what to say". The Sailors booth knows he just said “Walk this guy, Bloomers in next”.
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Now They're Showing
A beauty shot of our former Sailors.
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wait
wasn’t Miguel Batista part of the shitty 2000 pen?
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whose?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The M's Had
A huge conflagration of a pen sometime around then. I remember Timlin even sucked that year, and he’s been pretty good otherwise.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Our bullpen was absolutely horrendous 1996-1999.
It traumatized an entire generation of Mariner fans. My most vivid early memories of being a baseball fan are the feeling of dread I’d have whenever the bullpen was brought in. It got pretty good in 2000-2002 with Sasaki, Rhodes, and Nelson. And Putz was amazing with us in 2006 and 2007, but he’s broked now. Our bullpen this year beyond Aardsma sucks, although Lowe has been good of late, and Shawn Kelley was awesome (see USSMariner for this) until this happened may 3rd (oblique spontaneously combusts)

he is a former Royal
and a poet
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't he write a book about a serial killer?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What kind of poet?
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by ratherfantastic on Aug 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
one who writes poems?
are there different kinds?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Slam Poets
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
love kelly pitching around Blomquist with 2 outs
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i wish we'd bring hullett up
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
That Was His
HR swing.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
With YPJ's game tonight,
maybe we could get backsies on the trade ;)
what a horrible fucking play
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
why the fuck did Jamey start off the inning anyways?
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Because Maday Has
Been throwing batting practice this year.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice play Gordo
Atleast he has good plate discipline.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Mahay
didn’t feel a since of urgency on that play. Gordon tries to do too much…Mahay doesn’t try hard enough. Funny.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
What?
Bunting isn’t a good idea! They should have just let him swing away. No way that guy from second is scoring on a bunt! Trey never would have made such a stupid call.
this is a situation where i dont think even most stats guys would be blatantly against it....lateish...tie game...
although ,with the way these bullpens have looked….maybe shouldnt be playing for 1 run
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god....i hate you ryan....
again
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, K'd Ichiro!
I did not see that coming.
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I'm really glad that we didn't trade Mahay at the trade deadline last year. Thanks Dayton.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Or this year
Even if we could only get a coupon for free onion rings at Sonic :(
by kansasjhawk044 on Aug 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He's No LOOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he was nails up until the deadline
and/or when he got hurt (which was pretty much the same time)
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
True Dat
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...pitching out of his mind, old and expensive....
perfect sell high canidate
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Was SCREAMING for it last year. Was so mad. Glad Dayton has made up for it with great moves since then.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i think most were pretty much in agreement on that one last summer....
and then like a week later we were proven right
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
these idiotic shifts on LHB really kill us
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especially if you aren't pitching them in.... and no offspeed stuff....
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by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Bert Fell Down
Trying to get to where he normally would be.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess Trey was right...
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"Mahay isn't a lefty specialist"
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't been paying attention lately. Is our bullpen pretty good this year??
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Da Bomb
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, come on.
In high school, we adjusted our defense pitch by pitch. If we were throwing hard away, we didn’t play pull as hard from the swing side defense, if we were throwing offspeed, we adjusted a little more pull to the swing side… pitch by pitch, we looked in as a defense to see what pitch was being called.
I don’t know how MLBers can’t seem to do that type of stuff…
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thats a risky proposition....
you adjust a couple steps too early….i know an offspeed pitch is coming….
that’s actually what Arod was accused of doing
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
My Thoughts Exactly
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't adjust early...
You adjust as the pitcher gets ready… and you don’t just run, you take side steps and work stealthily…
Arod was accused of using his glove. Depending on how he held it, that was the type of pitch that was coming. Not so much the positioning. And if they see you adjust, then they still have to beat you hitting the ball…
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they do still have to beat you....
but these are major league hitters….if they know what is coming…they’re at a huge advantage
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
true... you have to be smart about it.
Sometimes you shift while the pitcher is starting his motion. It was high school when we did it… my college team did it too…. so did some minor league teams…. but I’ve never seen the Royals do it anywhere….
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there was actually a good recent piece about Jack Wilson helping position his teammates
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know if this is the kind of thing you're talking about
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll check it out....
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you'd have thought that banny was the only baseball player that wasnt half retarded....
judging by how he’s been received on the net
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
good quote
"I have to adjust not only to hitters and pitchers but to teammates, especially Jose Lopez, my double-play partner," Wilson said. "And I’ll have to work with a new third baseman, because there’s no sense me shading up the middle if he’s playing the line. You can’t do both successfully.
Here’s a hint: Jose’s not quite Freddy Sanchez out there
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I was talking about....
"I started to watch a batter’s hands and feet, his elbow and shoulders, his swing pass. Then, depending on your pitcher and what pitch he’s about to throw, you know what the hitter is most likely to do," he said.
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sorry, should of bq'd that...
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and this
"If your pitcher has a good change-up, 90 percent of them are going to be pulled, because guys are going to be out in front of them," Wilson said. "So you watch each pitch call and adjust, you let your third baseman know what’s coming."
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i cant believe you just linked me an article that features 'defensive RBI'
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that was pretty funny
I figure there are a lot of smart players over the years who have done what Wilson does
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhh...griffey...please retire
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
keep him around until he's not making the minimum
if his control still sucks then, part ways
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
5 Hour Energy has no sugar?
what does it have, Meth?
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Nah, Crack
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and rec'd
for accuracy
soon to change name to, "The Not So Curious Case of Benjamin Bratt"
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
its pretty awesome stuff really....
my mom of all people convinced me to stop living off of red bull, beer and cigs….so i cut out the red bull and switched to 5 hour…same effect for the same price
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I miss the chapter in "The Book" where they said it's a good idea to have your oldest, most washed-up player hit 4th?
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you cant bat griffey 8th in seattle....
one reason why that was a bad signing…b/c you’re forced to play him…and hit him in a spot like that
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone knows you should have your light hitting, strike out everytime a runner on third with less than two outs, super utility hitter bat third.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean bat "4th". I love Mark Teahen as more than just a friend.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Griffey actually has had a handful of game winning clutch RBI
despite the horrible BA. I am having trouble thinking of any instances in which Teahen has done so.
by swing and a miss on Aug 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
didnt he have a walkoff inside the park homer?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I need to dig into some stats. Or...does anyone know what Teahen's production numbers are with
a runner on third with less than 2 outs? Without knowing the answer, I would bet they are putrid. (Not that many Royals on this team are going to have good numbers).
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
740 OPS career 3rd less than 2
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you happen to have the stats for this year?
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
someone else posted them at the bottom
baseball-reference.com is an easy place to find them…just click on splits right above the place where the stats first start
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, Griffey has been our third or fourth best hitter most of the year going by wOBA.
Lopez just overtook him after hitting .500 last week.
DF
That article was absolutely amazing. Do you have any others where guys talk about this type of stuff or how they use it?
It was so good, I emailed the writer to ask him for more quotes or information! :)
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This one for those of you who didn’t read it
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did you read about the Hit f/x stuff.....
and how it will revolutionize the way defense is quantified?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that was pretty awesome stuff as well.
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no, but I'm sure you could find stuff like it
glad you enjoyed it
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I will search for it in the morning...
I have a computer training seminar I have to go to for new teachers so I’ll have some free time… lol
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Is he capable of filling Yuni's shoes in Seattle?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the type Trey teaches?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Teahen with a runner on third
with less than 2 outs, 2009: .235/.300/.235, 4 for 17, 8 RBI
with 2 outs, 2009: .227/.320/.227, 5 for 22, 6 RBI
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
BPJ Rakes, Frisbee
Runs. There will be Buck.
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gibbons going all hillman on this game
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
I can't wait until Dayton deems BPJ ready to start in 2-3 seasons
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Olivoyl Swinging Sac
Bunt, Frisbee had 2B stolen.
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Gordon will:
a: K
b: Pop out
c: Ground out to 3rd weakly
d. get a hit
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A.
looking…then glaring at the umpire
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost b
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
YAY I LOVE PINCH RUNNERS
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Hey devil, if you're still curious about Saunders, he's #4 on Jason Churchill's list of the M's mid-season top-30 on prospect insider.
http://prospectinsider.com/Mid2009.pdf
There’s some concern over contact rates (though much improved this year) and long-term health of his surgically repaired throwing arm (but it seems fine right now). Churchill writes:
Without any further issues with the shoulder, Saunders is big-league ready right now with an
offensive ceiling in the .280/.350/.450 range…
At 6-foot-4 and 210 pounds, Saunders is a very good athlete with above-average speed,
suggesting more power is in the offing with more refinement. …
Defensively, Saunders is an ideal candidate to man left field for Seattle, covering almost enough
ground to play center field regularly, with the arm to play right.
thanks
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
time for Dat Mariner Killah to strike again
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Lowe throwing 98-99 according to Gameday
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I Might Even
Have trouble with that.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be drunk, but the Royals play ugly.
At least in the morning, I’ll be sober.
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No, it's probably best to jump ship now
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you would have to think that this injury will hold him back a little longer....
But yeah, I see improvement even from last year.
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I understand why people are frustrated… but Gordon hasn’t eevn had 80 PA this season
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not piling on the kid. However, it just seems like he doesn't get it. As I mention below, there just seems to be a lack of effort (or appearance of effort)
Maybe I’m judging by the eye, like Dayton does. and…if I’m copying Dayton in any way, please tell me and i will kill myself immediately.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
No one on this team gives any more effort than Gordon. The guy is always diving on the ground…falling over the dugout railing to catch a ball…sliding head first into home or 1B…trying to take/steal an extra base. You can fault the production, but don’t fault the effort.
things like dropping popups b/c you refuse to use two hands fall into the effort category as well
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. And..that is really what I was getting at. It takes EFFORT to try and do things differently.
Not saying he doesn’t hustle. He just doesn’t seem to think he needs to change minor things in his approach offensively and defensively. That is effort I just don’t see.
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he's just about at the point where we can write off future stardom
though he could still be an above average player
this space reserved for something embarrassing nyroyal will have me say
like he was last season?
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused.
A guy who’s an average 3B as a rookie and an above average 3B at age 24 has all-star written all over him, right?
I'm confused, too
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
what I don't get...
is how he could go back, spend more times in the minors.. Come back up and continue to make the SAME mistakes at this level. He has the talent (doesn’t he??). Is he just hard headed. E.g. – continuing to catch pop ups off to the side. Not being disciplined at the plate consistently….
by Quagmire Giggity on Aug 4, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuni... clap clap.... Yuni... clap clap
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He Did His
Part; he’s coasting now.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we still have options on Alex Gordon?
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we should have 3....
but that option shit is confusing
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
WILMINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
all they had to do
as keep him at Omaha until, what, late may 2007?
Too late now
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yep....
or sound him down when he was sucking ass in 2007
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We Coulda Been
Contendas!
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
More like Omaha
Alex needs a good wakeup call to tell him that he needs to shift into another gear
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Yes, that's the problem
gear shifting
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 4, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
just saying
He has never experienced failure. If cockyness correlated to ability, he’d be an all-star. He’s not even getting it done after his injury and he needs to get back to what he did to become successful
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Ugh... I'm going to watch the rest of this from the comfort of my bed.
Hope we come back. Thanks for the article DF. Good bloggin with ya’ll….
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Good lineup
Plenty to b()()ch about, but this lineup seems to be working – when was the last time we scored more than 4 runs? Seri-f()()king-ously – let’s see if Trey can stick with it. Although Olivo at DH seems ri-go()()amn-diculous, let’s see if Trey can keep a freaking lineup. Doesn’t anybody think that it would make sense to put the best hitters out there for a few nights in a row? This is clearly to most frustrating thing about this season – even if there are injuries and people playing like idiots, consistency is the foundation of a decent month of baseball.
sac bunting to help you batting average....
interesting
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
why does tejeda continue to do this to us?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
he's just so tantalizing sometimes
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he goes from me beign pissed that we wont give him a shot to start....
to me being pissed that he’s on our team
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Does Anyone
Do anything? Because he can.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ichiro....KC....August
“Like 2 rats fucking in a wool sock”. Don’t mess with the classics.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
not happening, Willie Bloomgame is going nowhere
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Here He Comes
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He Swung At
Ball 4 3 or 4 times, maybe?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Willie Bloomquist has helped the Royals more than Gil Meche?
Retards
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Trey's gonna chew Gibby out for not showing enough confidence in Willie
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Mike Jacobs takes a page out of Willie Bloomquist's book
Voodoo Mike strikes again
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is it just me
or does Butler’s stance look like Sweeney’s?
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Aardsma's Breakers Are
Spinning out of control.
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seeeee
that’s why we didn’t get Branyan… can’t run down foul popups. Fundamentals. TTP
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MARK TEAHEN WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE AND A RUNNER ON BASE?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
Billy Is Hammering
The ball, but BABIP hates him right now.
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Teahen up, 2 outs, tying run on 1st
OH SHIT
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another loss for the bullpen
i’m pretty happy about this game, luke is still striking guys out and bale / wright continue to blow games, hopefully leading to the banishment of at least one of them
-
I was hoping for it
But not quite
Still, he extends the game
that weak ass grounder found a way through!!
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IT WAS A
ROPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
!!!!!!!
That wasn’t an RBI, so it makes sense!
LETS GO Collapse-So!
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
if a run doesnt score, then
callers will suggest that we trade Bert for a no-hit second baseman
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bases loaded for John Buck
Maybe Want
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Here It Is

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Oh Crap, I
Posted porn. I didn’t look too close. Please delete.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
phil you dirty northerner.
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cant blame him when he's in texas
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol 5 fuckin pitch watch and he hacks at the firsst one
GOOD AT BAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT
-
first pitch swinging
pisses me off
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the fuck do we EVER swing at the first pitch after a walk?
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WTF....?!?!
DID MIKE SWEENEY JUST DO A CROTCH CHOP?
REQUESTING .GIF NOW.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
he did... had to go back and rewatch the DVR on that one.
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If Trey were here....
“When things are going like they are for us, guys make those catches. The ball just isn’t bouncing our way right now”.
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Camera Angel Does
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by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously...
anyone who can make animated GIFs, I will owe my life for to you if you get that Sweeney crotch chop at the end of the game.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
I can make gifs, but I have no way to rip video off a tv...
and I would imagine anyone who can, can also make an animated gif
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 4, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe anyone who has access to the Gameday archive of the game?
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
if someone has archive
they could at least get a screenshot
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by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Aug 4, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA
joe pos left the star
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
http://thebiglead.com/?p=16920
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 4, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Man.
That is devastating for them. I just spoke to someone at the Star sports desk earlier (a friend of mine) and they sounded a little down, I didn’t expect that though.
I guess that is Joe’s “big announcement”… What a shame.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
Wow... Sports Illustrated
They must have offered him a ton of cash to get in the time machine to 20 years ago when that publication was still relevant
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 5, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
he just said on Facebook that he will still be writing for the Star
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by averagegatsby on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
gibbons presser is so much better than treys
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 5, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
imagine that
a veteran manager on a veteran team is better than a rookie manager on a veteran team…
STUNNING
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what did he say?
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by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Aug 5, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
he was able to complete sentences without saying "Um"
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Postgame Radio Show
So much idiocy, so little time.
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can we get the Kila cult to turn off their radios
when they’re on the air?
But Robert probably doesn’t realize that the top 5 offensive teams align with the top 5 teams in baseball pretty well
It’s not 1979
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