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Already Down Meche, Royals Await News on Brian Bannister

Brian Bannister may be the latest Royal to have his season end prematurely due to injury. Yes, those terribly unlucky Royals just can't catch a break! I'm stunned that one of the most retrograde teams in the game would have a worn down pitching staff by September.

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Per the Associated Press:

 

Royals starter Gil Meche is probably done for the year with a shoulder problem, and fellow right-hander Brian Bannister is flying to New York for a second opinion on his shoulder.

Royals manager Trey Hillman said on Thursday that Meche would most likely be shut down for the final weeks of the season. He declined to speculate on whether Bannister would need surgery.

The Royals did not disclose the exact nature of the problems.

 

(Mellinger's report in the Star can be read here.)

Frankly, no matter what the second opinion turns out to be, there's little reason to pitch Bannister anymore this season. Given how much the Royals believe (somewhat unjustifiably) that they've been truly bedeviled by injuries this season, you'd think that now that there's little left to play for, they'd be aggressively proactive about shutting people down. It's taken awhile, but that's (sorta apparently) happened with Gil Meche, which is a good thing.

Yes, I said it, the Royals are doing a good and smart thing here. Two weeks too late, but I'll take it.

Bannister's a slightly different case, in that his injury/fatigue/soreness/whatever has come on much more recently. Still, with endless auditions still available from Kyle Davies, as well as reliable appearances from Greinke and Hochevar, the Royals aren't terribly short-handed when it comes to throwing out intriguing yet mostly sub-optimal guys.

I don't think there's a huge difference between Bannister and Bruce Chen or Lenny DiNardo at this point, and certainly not a large difference over the course of two or three starts. We're talking about a pitcher in Bannister who always operates on the fringes of uselessness who also happens to have posted a 9.29 ERA in his last six starts. With Bannister, there's simply always going to be the BABIP issue: does he break the mold or does the mold break him. In his 9.29 ERA stretch, he's allowed an aggregate line of .326/.372/.486, thus answering almost perfectly a hypothetical question about how many runs per game a team of all 2009 Derek Jeters would score.

Hmm... maybe these problems aren't necessarily so new. In any event, we should all feel totally comfortable that the Royals will handle these injuries well.

This is how it goes with these guys, that great chattering mass of bodies named Davies, Hochevar, and Bannister. They'll look good, they'll look bad. They're all around. You can make cases for all of them, or against all of them. Davies was considered the best option heading into 2009, and he fell on his face. Then, we all lustily awaited Hochevar, who struggled, then turned into late 1990s Pedro for three starts, then fell apart. Nobody expected anything of Banny for 2009, and he, ever briefly, emerged as the best of the bunch. All the old Banny-Stats type of articles returned. Then he started sucking again.

In a way, it all makes Sidney Ponson look attractive in an Odalis Perez sort of way. Really and truly, you knew what you were getting with those guys.

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I think Banny is a solid #3 when healthy

His dip in performance coincides to when he said he started having shoulder issues. For the rest of the season prior, he has posted fairly consistent, solid numbers.

Injury aside, he is a better pitcher than the rest of the bunch at this point in time. Even with his recent slide he’s got a FIP of 4.12 with a BABIP of .303. In other words, his FIP should be an accurate assessment of his luck adjusted ability as a pitcher.

by jsolo on Sep 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Banny was quoted in the Star during the Oakland series

as saying the pain started in one of his early August starts and that it has definitely affected his performance. I can’t find the direct quote right now, but I remember he said it wasn’t a sharp pain which is why he was trying to work through it.

by jsolo on Sep 10, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta give it to Banny this season

2.8 WAR at FanGraphs, 3.1 at Stat Corner. That’s getting into #2 pitchter territory. He’s probably not quite this good, but it’s hard to say he’s been anything less than good in 2009, taking the whole season into consideration

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by devil_fingers on Sep 10, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Losing two of our starters

late in the season will be the final excuse DMGM needs to convince himself that injuries were the only problem this season. Ugh.

by Black and Gold on Sep 10, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man there are so many things I want to happen before the next season starts...

but I know none of them will happen

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 11, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should have sold high on Banni?

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Sep 11, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm afraid that for Bannister

“selling high” would have just meant getting Ambiorix Burgos back.

by Black and Gold on Sep 11, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where will we go from here?

We basically have one starter for 2010 that we can count on and then a bunch of question marks. I would strongly consider moving Davies to the bullpen. Who knows if Hooch can figure out his issues.

I wonder if this increases the urgency to get Aaron Crow signed, although I can’t imagine him being anything other than a bullpen arm at best for 2010.

This is not what we needed on top of all of our other problems, to have to look for starting pitching.

Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 11, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, GMDM said we needed at least one more solid starting pitcher before the year

He was right.

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Sep 11, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Silva will be availiable for trade

I’m sure if Dayton plays it cool and only offers Dan Duffy and Greg Billo he can get him.

by kcbottom9th on Sep 11, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The elephant in the room

Moore is on record as saying he instructed Hillman to “stretch out” the starters this season.

It took a while, but perhaps now the Royals are reaping the results of said instruction.

Heh, it could work – this will weed out the pussies on the team who can’t handle 125+ pitches in a game. That will work real good, assuming you always have 10 or 15 viable candidates for the rotation every year.

(Last paragraph was sarcasm)

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Sep 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?
(Last paragraph was sarcasm)

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Sep 11, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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