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Yet another post on the AL Cy Young Race


Let's look at this again. In my mind, there are 3 primary competitors (not counting Rivera):

Sabathia, Verlander, Hernandez.

Assuming Greinke keeps his ERA around 2.25, and gets his win total to, say 16-8 or even 16-9, here's what we need to root for:

 

Sabathia currently has 17 wins, but, AND THIS IS CRUCIAL, most likely has only 3 starts left. (19th, 24th, 29th, then they would likely skip him the last weekend so he could start the playoff opener). If he falls short of the magical 20 win figure, then Greinke could beat him out.

 

Verlander currently has 16 wins, but like Sabathia, most likely has only 3 starts left, IF, AND THIS IS A BIG IF, Detroit can clinch it before the last weekend. (Verlander pitches on the 19th, 24th, 29th, then skipped on the weekend so he could open the playoffs). Bottom line - no way Verlander gets to 20 wins.

 

King Felix - currently has 15 wins, and like Greinke will only get 4 more starts. (18th, 23rd, 28th, Oct 3rd). Can't get to 20 wins either, but we really need him to stay only 1 or 2 wins ahead of Greinke, and for Zack to maintain his current ERA gap over Hernandez of about a third of a run or so.

 

Looking at the schedule, it may come down to THE ROYALS HITTERS, who may need to get Sabathia a ND or a loss in his last start, which looks like it will be against KC.

 

You will note I'm discounting the voters doing something idiotic like give it to Rivera as some sort of career achievement award. I may be making a big mistake discounting this - but I'm hopeful the voters are sufficiently more informed now than they have been in the past.

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Even if Sabathia doesn’t get to 20, there could be a lot of East Coast groundswell to give him the award, particularly since some of the same arguments that were bandied about concerning Halladay (better division, tougher competition) will be bandied about with CC.

I don’t know if Greinke has a magic number for wins, but it could be as low as 15 depending on how everything else shakes out.

The last time an A.L. pitcher with an ERA as low as or lower than Greinke’s didn’t win the Cy with at least 200 IP was Roger Clemens in 1990, but Bob Welch had 27 wins to Clemens’ 21.,,,and Clemens deserved the award that year IMHO.

by MikeGianella on Sep 17, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, looking at the stats Clemens definitely deserved it

27 wins is pretty lucky, especially when you pitched like Welch. His K/9 was under 5!

by AxDxMx on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That argument is so erroneous!

Using BPs “Pitchers – Quality of Opponents Faced”, prior to today’s game:

Sabathia average of 751 OPS against
Greinke average of 754 OPS against
Verlander average of 762 OPS against
Hernandez average of 758 OPS against

Not too hard to argue that these are essentially a wash, and hence arguing about pitching in the AL East is moot.

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agtee

…just playing devil’s advocate.

Thanks for the QOF metric…that is a strong counter argument to Sabathia.

by MikeGianella on Sep 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Clemens won the Cy in some years when he didn't necessarily deserve it

and got gypped in other years when he did deserve it, and I think the combination of the two comes out even for him.

by swing and a miss on Sep 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agteed

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

daunting to consider

that the entire outcome might ride on the Royals’ batting lineup.

Looks like the “University of Illinois” this year for Zack…

StonewallPDS

by StonewallPDS on Sep 18, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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