Game 147 Open Thread - Royals (59-87) at White Sox (72-75)
by Freneau on Sep 18, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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Luke Hochevar squares off against the unspellable one at the Cell.
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Buerhle will bring that guy to his HOF induction speech
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Dayton’s Dervishes
LF DeJesus, David
RF Bloomquist, Willie
1B Butler, Billy
DH Olivo, Miguel
2B Callaspo, Alberto
CF Maier, Mitch
C Buck, John
3B Gordon, Alex
SS Betancourt, Yuniesky
Kenny’s Capitulators
LF Podsednik, Scott
3B Beckham, Gordon
DH Pierzynski, A.J.
1B Konerko, Paul
RF Kotsay, Mark
SS Ramirez, Alexei
2B Getz, Chris
CF Wise, Dewayne
C Castro, Ramon
Happy Rosh Hashonah to all of the Jewish persuasion
I assume I can have an excused absence from this big one; this is another pretender team we must beat into submission
No one gets out alive!!!!
Sponor of the Will Ebner Physical Therapy Center for Players Who've Been Hit By Will Ebner and Want to Try to Stop the Ringing. Or WEPTCPWBHBWEWTSR for short.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Sep 18, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
If the Royals are ever, you know, in contention in September
they’re not going to let Steve Stewart do radio play-by-play solo for entire games, are they?
they might want to poke Denny or Fred to do road trips to states that border Missouri
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That seems a completely theoretical question. :)
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Buddy's return is not much more farfetched
than Royals near term contention. We are in a sorry division, but Dayton’s scorning of OBP and defense seems a rather fatal flaw in the makeup of a MLB team. Greinke has had a brilliant season, and we’re still not competitive. :(
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
In that case
perhaps the other reasons not to let Steve Stewart do 9 innings of play-by-play will suffice.
I should apologize for the snark.
I rarely listen to the radio broadcasts. Is Stewart that bumbling? I hear a lot of criticism of Bob Davis, but I’m not sure if that is valid, or simply MU fans that despise anything Kansas. (Not surprising, if Chris Gervino of MU did the games, I’m sure plenty of Kansas fans would complain.)
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No apology necessary. I like listening to the radio while I’m working or walking, which is why I hear these guys a lot. I have no connections to any institutions that are likely to be pro-Davis or anti-Davis.
I think Davis is boring, at least when broadcasting baseball. I’ve only ever heard him do one basketball game, and that was a blowout so it isn’t fair to judge him on that basis. For baseball, he fills the time enumerating the obvious potential outcomes of the situation. Canonical example: “Another bad one here will load the bases!” Try this: whenever he says something like that, say, “I did not know that, Bob!” and drink. Guaranteed you won’t remember anything after the 4th inning.
Stewart is even worse at holding my attention. No gravity, no drama, no rhythm, no insight. Honestly the only time he said anything interesting to me — not worthwhile, but interesting — was when he made uninformed comments about salary caps and other issues during spring training. He sounded like an ownership lobbyist. I’m quite sure that after he washes out of big time broadcasting his next job isn’t going to be in labor relations. Maybe he’s hoping to earn himself a minor function in the commissioner’s office.
The Royals seem to be accumulating those types.(Ryan)
Luckily the former Royals on the broadcasts are not usually so company line.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not surprising
when you consider that the reason Glass got the ownership nod in the first place was his vehement anti-labor stance during the 1994 work stoppage.
Anyway, I’ll just have to remind myself to outlive the Glass’ ownership of the Royals. Of course I’m hoping to outlive the co-opting of the commissioner’s office as well (big fan of Giamatti here), and I think that will pretty much take care of it. If it ever happens. Probably requires Congressional intervention or something.
ha
turns out my fantasy team was doing pretty well… here is the lineup for the last 5 months without me checking on it
Mauer, Pujols, Kinsler, Longoria, Alexei Ramirez, Ichiro, Bay, Dunn, Ryan Howard
Liriano, Beckett, Soria, Jenks
If the P count with SP and RP, then I’m getting more points out of King Felix, Shields, and Ziegler
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update on my poorly managed fantasy team
we’re down 8-5 in the championship series, which ends on Sunday. I just picked up Pedro and Jon Lester for tomorrow (dumping Ziegler and Lirano)
I’m down 27-11 2/3 in IP, 32-14 in Ks, tied in saves and home runs, up 974-758 in OPS, and down 3.86-1.33 in ERA
His pitchers are Greinke, Lincecum, Sabathia, Lee, Harden, Pabelbon, Mariano
It’s a small league
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I would worship Dayton
if he could get a pitching staff like that on the Royals. Wow.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Gordo strikes!
Thank goodness no one was on, or he would have been bunting.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Yuni with the Yuseful out.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
holy crap
bases loaded walk for Olivo
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OMG
That just happened! Miggy takes the RBI walk!
Shake n’ bake.
Universe ending.
Miggy with a walk with the bases loaded.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
are you fucking kidding
swinging at the 1st pitch when the guy has walked 3 in a row?
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But then callaspo
hits the predictable 2 out, first pitch, RISP ground out. I wish they kept a statistic on that, because it seems to happen like every game.
i'd bench callaspo for that
logged on just to comment on it, so fucking STUPID i can’t even fathom it. horrible, horrible baseball play and i’d move his ass to the pine for the rest of the game just to make a point… idiotic play like that is what makes this a godawful team
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And he is one of the best hitters on the team.
I don't understand why we're not a better team.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
hanging a curveball to dewayne wise
luke hochevar, this is why you suck
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Hey
How about that Hochevar? Not an efficient or dominating performance, but he’s getting the job done so far.
Not bad.
Perhaps the hideous uni’s of the Sox are sapping their strength.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea.
Ryan & Frank have not mentioned it. At least the Royals don’t have on the red Monarch hats with their blue uniforms.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
“Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day”
They’ve done this before, for home games that fall closest to St. Patrick’s Day +/- 6 months.
If they are encouraging me to drink;
they have succeeded.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Just tuned in and saw the hideous Sox hats
Thank you for this explanation.
by swing and a miss on Sep 18, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Luke is unpredictable, to say the least.
He used 10 pitches on 1 batter the inning before, now 5 suffices for the inning.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
followed by an 8 pitch inning.
He might be able to go for a long time tonight.
i wish we could be done with those stupid ass ask the fan questions...
they just make our fanbase look retarded
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
what just happened ?..flashing the camera?
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Olivo
Un-damn-believable! That’s like 3 or 4 this week!
My favorite post of the entire season is
“Miguel Olivo’s Fascinating, Remarkably Dumb, Almost Useful, 2009 Season”
props to RR, I still laugh about that title from time to time
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
You don't want to get lost
in a bad neighborhood.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If Miggy gets to 25 homers- what are the odds Dayton thinks that's a good deal
Hell, I guess the question is: “Is it a good deal”?
(Probably not, considering you have a 400K guy on the bench who could start and give good production)
http://www.royalsreview.com/2009/6/16/911410/miguel-olivos-fascinating
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, and 51 comments in the 6th inning?
I know it’s a meaningless friday night game, but still
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, that was quite the night
Since school started I’ve been all over the place, and rarely log on nowadays
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anybody read the comments on Poz' blog about the 200-200-200 club?
Was that guy who was suggesting Zack shouldn’t be the Cy Young because he’s on PEDs (his antidepressants) for real?
holy crap
I didn’t see that but I want to fight whoever that was
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
he’s trying to reduce to absurdity the arguments in favor disregarding other player’s performances. So I’d guess he’s a snarky antidisawardiantarianist.
And a poor one, at that.
No, I think it's valid
Why do we draw the line at physical performance enhancers, but not mental ones? The whole thing is silly.
JoPo has had some cranky commentors lately.
Success breeds contempt I guess? Not like Joe does anything to really tick people off, but the people bitching about something they get for free is rather amusing, in a disturbed way.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I still love the argument on his Facebook status
about whether Greinke would be a no. 3 starter on the Cardinals.
he annoys me alot of the time...
so, i just dont waste my time commenting…and if i think the topic sucks, i just dont read it…its pretty simple
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice quality start for Hochevar
2 hits, 0 runs, the only bad stats are the 1 BB and 1 K.
I surmise that this has already come up on here
but if so I am unaware
We as the fanbase should really pitch in and get Zack a cool trophy for when he is inevitably robbed of the Cy Young. It’d be a cool throwback Frank White gold glove style thing
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Perhaps we can organize a commando raid
and steal back Frank White’s 9th gold glove, which was somehow given to Harold Reynolds, and fashion an appropriate award.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A starkly different, yet still somewhat related topic
who is the worse analyst, Frank or Harold Reynolds?
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Harold in a landslide.
Frank yaks about small ball too much, but he does give some good insight on occasion.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Franks incessant giggling is kind of endearing too....
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the name of the award
For the player who has overcome the greatest personal obstacle? He has to be a lock for that thing.
did ryan just say 'great baserunning by betancourt'
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
off of the 2nd best releiver named Tony Pena
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ink Pens?
several hundred thousand
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bert with the triple!
How can one of the worst offensive teams in baseball lead the majors in triples?
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
because triples are stupid
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals have determined that "hitting triples" is a market-undervalued skill.
by andrewmiller on Sep 18, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
while "scoring runs" is overrated
by the liberal media
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by McClure 'stache on Sep 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate everything about this team
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Play like this in July, July and at least August
these hot streaks when the season is shot does nothing but piss people off.
Maybe I'm just gullible/unrealistically (for the Royals) optimistic
But I’m genuinely encouraged to see Tejeda, Maier, Gordon, Butler and Hochevar ending the year well, and I hope it will carry over to 2010.
Its easy to play when there is no pressure
This is the same September they had last year. That transferred beautifully to this season.
They made it interesting for a month!
Before injuries destroyed the season.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"This is the same September they had last year"
1) Tejeda wasn’t starting this year, so I think this is a legitimate new development.
2) Gordon did have a quality September last year (.923 OPS), but it’s not his fault that didn’t transfer. And I’m looking for any encouraging signs of his recover going forward for 2010.
3) Mitch Maier had a terrible September last year (.508), the 2nd half 2010 is the only time he’s shown real promise.
4) Luke Hochevar didn’t pitch last year in September, and was 0-4, 6.08 in August. This year is the first time he’s shown flashes of his actual potential, tonight included.
5) Butler is pretty well established at this point, but last September he hit a meh .274.
by andrewmiller on Sep 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
For those wondering about Olivo and WAR
He is up to about 2.0 WAR now, or worth about 9 Million a year, so 3.3 seems to be a good deal. He is basically above leauge average with the split playing time so far, or in other words, our second best position player so far this year behind DDJ, if you extend out Olivo’s playing time. This does not include his defense yet however.
Go Royals!
In my stored forms for this site...
the only thing listed is “fucking pathetic.” Which game would that have been?
He had 5 one inning
and then 8 the next, so possibly.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
only in an intrasquad game
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Fortunately, Trey replaced him
with TPJJ on the bases, so his smirk shall be hidden in the dugout.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
wise looks like dejesus out there
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
this is fucking retarded...
im legitimately upset by our teams performance in september
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
True ability of the team DMGM assembled is showing itself.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The composite player "Royals Catchers" has hit 29 HR this year
An outside shot at the Royals season record! (If they would allow numbers-by-position in the record book.)
- Olivo’s 2 HR tonight, and 3 others, not included because they came from the DH slot.
In case you're wondering
no, it’s not a hoax. 10 runs for KCR, two bombs for Olivo, and Hoch is pitching a 2-hitter through 7.
That Grovers Mill, New Jersey thing? That was a hoax.
So when does Butler steal a base
and cause the universe to collapse upon itself?
he already did that a few games ago.
Go Royals!
Orson Welles was an excellent
documentary maker.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
just crushing
the sox look completely finished
and the parade of AAA pitchers continues, and you guys wonder why we’re winning in september. whole team is hitting better than they should be all at the same time
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If Hochevar throws a CG
the Royals will tie San Francisco for most complete games in the majors at 10. This is almost as statistically significant as leading the majors in triples.
by swing and a miss on Sep 18, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Never leads to injuries, of course.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd say that CG is much more important...
and likely correlates much more highly with winning…just a guess though…simply based on the fact that good pitchers generally lead the league in CGs whereas shitty fast guys usually lead in 3bs
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Just passed...
Bale, Cruz and HoRam
Go Royals!
Vince Vaughn is fleeing the game
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we dont even give up fucking runs when we score double digits now....
incredible….now, someone is going to explain pythag to dayton and he’s going to tell everyone that we were just unlucky this year
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
good thing we don't have any relievers that we could use now
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It's just the thing DM needs to stand pat in FA
and re-sign our shitty players.
Great.
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
im completely cool with that...most of our guys will only cost 400k to suck...
while the ones he’ll bring in will cost multi millions to suck
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not good with this bullpen
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
you want dayton to try to assemble a bp in FA?
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with this
The bullpen can be improved from within with Rosa, Hughes, and whoever gets the boot from the rotation to make room for Tejeda.
by andrewmiller on Sep 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't the 80 pitch CG
a shutout?
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
there ya go...solo HR to gomes
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan says he gave up 1 homer in that game.
I thought his 13 K game was a shutout though. Could be wrong.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No surprise. I'm wrong.
Helluva game by Luke.
by hunter s. royal on Sep 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah.
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
CG 3 hit shoutout
GO ROYALS!
This division is terrible. Maybe we do have a chance in 2010???
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
we're just a CF and starter away
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I dunno. and some more bullpen guys??
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
and a SS and a DH and a RF..
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah...
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Yay LuKKKKKe!
Shutout on only 105 pitches.
by swing and a miss on Sep 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Luke seemed to work much faster than usual.
Guess it helped. + the CWS suck.
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
c'mon frank..english please
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by billybeingbilly on Sep 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO
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by Trey_has_no_pulse on Sep 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously
WTF? why couldn’t we have played 1/2 this well earlier? I realize the Tigers, Twins, and Sox suck but they are all notionally competing for a playoff spot. From 18-11 to the end of August we went 33-70. Just make that 43-60 which is about what our winning % for that period would be based on pythag and we’re 69-77, 3 games out of 3rd place which is about what we all thought we’d be, maybe a little worse. Even then, I realize that 69-77 isn’t great but consider where we all thought we would be it would make a big difference in perception. Not really justifying anything it’s just goddamn frustrating that they couldn’t have played a little bit better throughout the year.
Kansas City Royals - rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic since 1994.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 18, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe all that notional competing
is exhausting, while we show up after months of playing out the string fresh and ready to dominate?
No? I didn’t really think so, either.
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