Milton Bradley to Royals? Musings.

I know this topic has been discussed here before, but the link above presents a potential swap from the Cubs perspective. I'm no Paul Sullivan fan (article's author), but I do see some sense in this. Bradley's a multi-dimensional player who could help KC. I'm sure this will strike some as a Guillen-esque deal. Bradley's way more talented than Guillen. Bradley has a greater career OBP, hits for a higher average, and plays above average defense in right. He might even be less hot-headed than Guillen, believe it or not. ...So long as Bradley avoids our radio and tv announcers, everything could go smoothly. ;) My concern is this: Who do we give up? - TL

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DO NOT WANT.

- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes

by JobDDT on Sep 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease no

very similar to Guillen, a player on the decline in his career, not worth it and our org. has to stop making moves like this unless they are just compliments to other good players, which we really only have one of right now, please no

by I need more Esteban on Sep 26, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

I couldn’t disagree more. The only similarity is their occasional outbursts—-sometime anti-social behavior. Other than that, Bradley and Guillen are in no way similar. Bradley has tools and skills. His OBP alone would be an argument to bring him here. – TL

by timlacy on Sep 26, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depends on how much time Bradley has left on his contract

a Guillen for Bradley swap makes a little sense if the remaining contracts are relatively even. Bradley is a better overall player and who wouldn’t admit to waiting for his first public meltdown if he ended up here. I wouldn’t give up anybody else to get him but those two guys even up might do it.

by stram#1 on Sep 26, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

Bradley has 2 years, $20M left
Guillen 1 year, $12M

give or take

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Sep 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's actually more like $23

typical backloaded stuff

A bit steep for a guy who’s probably about a league average player at this point (once you take into account he probably won’t pay more than 75% of games). It’s too bad his defense has taken a dive. Injuries stuck.

very good hitter, though.

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradley plays above average defense?

I don’t know what the numbers say, and I’m willing to admit I may be wrong, but I thought he had the rep of being one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball – in Guillen territory.

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He was actually a good defensive CF in CLE

and was very good in the corners according to UZR and the Fans in Oakland and San Diego. But I think age and knee injuries have sapped his range. I did some work on it earlie rtoday. He’s probably a bit below average.at this point.

The main reason to DH him is to keep him healthy. He’s always been vastly superior to Guillen.

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

although JoePo didn't like his body language, so that's probably -5 right there

maybe his defense would improve if he started talking about BABIP and Bill James’ baserunning stat

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

/end obligatory D_F shot at JoePo

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by Warden11 on Sep 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JOE POSNANSKI IS HIS FAVORITE SPORTS JOURNALIST, AND, NO, THAT ISN’T INTENDED TO DAMN HIM WITH FAINT PRAISE.

by 2X2L on Sep 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

Joe's one of his favorite people

he really is.

by AxDxMx on Sep 27, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

rec'd all around

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by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Not at all. By “above average” I didn’t mean all-star/gold glove, just above average.

by timlacy on Sep 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't have a problem with this if we trade Guillen in the deal.

I’m not at all familiar with the Cubs or their farm system, but I think I read a post on here from someone suggesting we could trade Guillen, Meche, and Teahen for Bradley and some other player from the Cubs. That trade would free up some salary space, and its not like any of the players involved would really be here when the Royals could be serious contenders. Also, I think Bradley’s attitude problems are probably overblown somewhat because they make good stories for the media.

by KCBear on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure Pinella and Hendry have some other young, potentially decent players they're mad at

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, too bad Pie isn't still with them

by KCBear on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's my current mancrush, sort of

Read this.

I guess they didn’t need him, being set with Soriano and everything.

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pie's problem with the Cubs was...

…the same that other players have had: the spotlight. Pie was given a pretty fair opportunity, but the Cubs were looking for better OBP. And then Pie started striking out a lot. They feared he was becoming a Rich Hill at the plate—-an extreme example, I know, but you get the point. I personally felt they should’ve kept Pie one more season. Just let him sink or swim with 500+ plate appearances. They problem with the Cubs is that they can’t do that with anybody who doesn’t at least obtain to average (e.g. Ryan Theriot, Geovany Soto). – TL

by timlacy on Sep 26, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Less than 300 PAs over three seasons is not a fair opportunity for a young guy like Pie

and they burned his options and thus felt forced to basically give him away.. and whaddya know, he’s turned out to be a decent player so far this season in BAL, where’s he’s had just about as many PA in one season as he did in parts of three with the Cubs.

It’s just a mystery to me what the Cubs don’t win more…

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by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs