Daniel Gutierrez Traded to Texas, Link Roundup

What was it Gutierrez was doing earlier this year? Wasn’t he trying to recruit guys to Boras, and/or speaking VERY negatively about the Organization? – I’m not being snarky, I don’t remember and am too apathetic to this team right now to do any research on it.

I don’t see where the over-reaction is coming from personally. The guy does have upside, but it’s not like he was traded for another organizations versions of Costa/Lubanski/insert AAAA player that has no shot at ever contributing at MLB level here, these guys are still young, and they add sorely needed depth at 2 positions that we sorely need depth in upper MiLB

Posted by Clark @ 7:19 PM Thu, Sep 03, 2009
Plus, Smith is a low strikeout guy, makes contact, and yet has power potential. The Rangers don’t like contact hitters. They only want guys on the roster that strikeout often and don’t play good fundamental baseball. Smith is too smart of a hitter to play for the Rangers.

and they moved him along.

Instead of trying to work a truly smart deal with, say, the Rays, sending them soria for a package including (just picking names ot of had) Desmond Jennings and Reid Brignac, players who could help the Royals for years, he trades a good pitching prospectfor two guys, neither of whom have a shot of ever being a starter, and maybe not even MLBers.

Player A – 2007 First Round Draft Choice (Currently 20 years old)

Player B – 2007 Seventh Round Draft Choice (Currently 23 years old)

Player A – .272/.337/.468/.805 in 549 PAs
Player B – .300/.359/.450/.809 in 538 PAs

Player A is Moustakas and Player B is Timothy Smith. Obviously Moustakas is three years younger and has much higher upside, but Smith performed at a very comparable level to Moustakas last year in the same league.

I don’t like giving up Gutierrez, but it seems that the immediate evaluation that Smith will never have any business playing in the majors seems a bit premature.

This is the only free content from the scouting report you are citing

Tim Smith posted impressive numbers with Single-A Clinton in 2008, as he batted .300 with 13 homers, 70 RBI, and 21 stolen bases.

We have seen almost three years of Chris Lubanski at AAA and he has no value because in three years he has yet to produce. Smith has not had the chance to play in AAA yet. Just because the players were similar at the AA level does not mean that Lubanski’s performance over the next 2+ years of his career dictates the ceiling for Smith’s career. To claim that you can know at this point that Smith is nothing more than “a poor man’s Lubanski” is completely arrogant and ignorant.

Check it.

I can see no other reason to be so absolutely down about this guy right now. Nobody is even arguing it was a good trade. I think the main argument here is that at this point the trade looks pretty bad, but that we don’t really know what we got in return yet.

He is stuck at LF, because is arm is shit and is range is poor. His numbers at Bakersfield were done in the CAL league with a sky high BABIP with a low LD%. He’s a mirage. Lubanski mrk II.

But he is a wholesome guy, unlike that nasty cancer Guttierez. Dayton Moore’s war on sin continues.

have shown other farmhands the way to get to a new team.

http://www.newbergreport.com/article.asp?articleid=1606

by accident in another thread.

In this thread…

He said…

go back to 2006 and look at the top prospect lists, versus what ended up happening… just too much variation, especially with pitchers

The difference between this thread & that thread, is that in that thread, it is talking about how current Royals MiLB’ers should turn out good, and RR is basically arguing that is an assinine position b/c nobody can tell anything about a players future.

In this thread, the argument, and general consensus, is that the current Royals MiLB’ers are destined to suck, and the former Royal MiLB’ers will haunt us for years, and I am apparently one of very few people see the flaw or the hipocracy in that logic.