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Do You Have Questions?

UPDATE: It's Friday afternoon, so I'm answering these now.

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Bored, looking for things to wrote (wow I am an idiot) about.

Post a question and I'll probably write a massive post answering them. Not so much because I'm an expert or anything... just so that we can get some discussions going.

Baseball or whatever. Or nothing, if you disagree with the concept.

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Billy Collins...

How was he Poet Laureate? I can’t stand his work.

by billexgordler on Jan 21, 2010 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

honestly, I've only read a few of his poems

I didn’t think they were garbage or anything, but they didn’t make me want to read more. I also spent my 20s in grad school and never heard a good thing about him.

At one point I was talking to an office mate and realized that we were both sorta renegades, in that we both liked some unfashionable white male writers from the 70s and 80s, but even he wasn’t into Collins.

As for recent PLs, I much prefer Ted Kooser.

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you feel about Kooser?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 25, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

enjoy reading him

not an all time fav, but definitely a fan

by Freneau on Jan 26, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How was anyone Poet Laureate?

…it’s such a wierd concept…

Anyway, I kinda like Collins. I’ve got a couple of his collections, and I’m fond of “The Best Cigarette.”

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

bizarre concept, especially in the US

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

what's his stuff like?

is he positive? happy?

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose you could say both "positive" and "happy."

Lots of humor, actually, in a sort of “aww, shucks” way that consciously says “I’m not taking myself too seriously here, folks.” Anyway, I totally get that some might find that annoying, but I like him anyway.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Patrick Fitzgerald And

Gerald Fitzpatrick; discuss.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

An Irish gay couple, right?

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The Perfect One

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hemingway

Fitzgerald just seems less and less interesting to me as the years pass. There was a phase, right after I became an English major (dropping Philo and a backup plan of history) that I was just in love with Great Gatsby. I re-read it like 4 times. Just some amazing paragraphs. I don’t think Hemingway hits you the same way, but I’d much rather read his books again and teach/or take a seminar class about him.

After a certain point, what can you say about Fitzgerald? Daisy absolutely kills that novel for me now. (Unless you buy a counter reading that Fitz is saying that she was never that great and pursuing her in person or symbolically is hollow.)

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This Side of Paradise

and many of Fitz’s short stories are just filled with those same intensely beautiful paragraphs and surprisingly sharp little observations. I read the Basil & Josephine collection of short stories about a year ago and really enjoyed them.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

and I think Fitzgerald is concerned with Beauty with a capital B in a way that a lot of 20th c writers weren’t or couldn’t let themselves be

I think that Hemingway can give you enough of that, while also being a little more interesting… then again, I read Sun Also Rises liike 3 different times before I learned that the guy was supposed to be impotent or whatnot

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

true

and the Sun Also Rises is a magnificent book. Love the fishing outing…irony & pity.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Satch Carlson, A

Humor columnist for the Anchorage Daily News at the time, won the international fake Hemingway prose competition years ago. He flew to Italy to accept the award. He was also an English teacher, and, sadly, was run out of town on a rail after being caught in his hot tub with one of his 17 year old female students.

I don’t think I’ve ever read a Hemingway novel. Writers of the generation before me seemed to worship and mimic his style. My best friend’s father, a tenured English professor at Washburn, wrote a novel set in Africa which was an obvious attempt to emulate Hemingway.

I think this put me off Hemingway. I’ve read much of Steinbeck, and I like him a lot. I don’t think I’ve ever read Fitzgerald, either. I probably won’t. Vonnegut and Irving are two of my favorites; I’ve read most of what they’ve written.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd give a shout out to Ford Maddox Ford
caught in his hot tub with one of his 17 year old female students

where do you go after getting run out of Alaska?

i’d say that that is hemingway esque, but his characters always seem kinda chaste to me… supposedly they could have any woman, but somehow don’t/won’t

I’d give a shout out to Ford Maddox Ford

he seems to basically be expressing the Hemingway worldview, but he’s a different guy

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlson Was An

Editor for The Roundel, a mag for BMW enthusiasts, for a while. I haven’t googled him lately. I really liked his columns.

Interestingly, he had done nothing illegal. The age of consent was 16 in Alaska at the time. As a result, a Byzantine definition of legal age was put into law thereafter. The key provision is that the older party cannot be in a position of authority over the younger party until age 18. Under age 18 the key is age differrential, with certain ages triggering changes in the differential. I was on grand jury in the early ’00s, and they went over this law numerous times in establishing their cases.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

was that change made after Sarah Palin's daughter

became pregnant?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Which One?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

but hey

she and levi were totally gonna get married

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The Ring Tattoo

Pretty much sealed the deal.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a good point

That Hemingway’s style has been oft-imitated and generally a terrible curse on much modern writing. I love the conversation in On the Road about Hemingway and Hemingwayan writers.

Hemingway himself was actually a skilled parodist — technically, his first published novel was Torrents of Spring, which is a great parody of Sherwood Anderson (Winesburg, Ohio) and some other overwrought writers of the era like D.H. Lawrence & Joyce. It’s very short and fairly amusing.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

is not On the Road Hemingway like?

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

certainly not in pure prose style. Typically Hemingwayan prose is simple and direct. Lots of declarative sentences. Kerouac and On the Road in particular uses tons of long, luscious sentences that track & back forth across an idea (parentheticals & appositive clauses abound, etc).

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe A Stream

Of consciousness Travels with Charley or Blue Highways?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, Travels with Charley

that is a fun book. Long time since I thought about it.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I read a great travel book this summer,

Travels with Barley, a book about beer, microbrews, and a road trip down the Mississippi River to visit breweries and bars, searching for the perfect beer/ beer joint

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Have You Read

Blue Highways? I recommend it.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

read it sometime in the early 90s

that genre always ropes me in, but never quite satisfies me

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, I did and really liked it

I generally like that genre of book

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

William Least Heat-Moon,

Nee Trogdon, wrote the book. He’s a professor at Mizzery. I also loved Prairyerth. It’s probably not for everyone.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I read "most" of it - it sort of bogged

down for me at the end, but I do like the Flint Hills.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I defy anyone to read Winesburg Ohio start to finish and enjoy it

Hemingway was necessary and there would have been a version of him to emerge no matter what. I think the problem is that his style got glorified along with his perceived lifestyle and the lifestyle of his characters.

the weird thing is that he really was sorta an outgrowth of realism, without the weird way of writing that so many realists used

I think Dreiser is really good, yet others think he’s a laughably bad writer

Frank Norris is also a forgotten goodie

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I defy you

I actually really, really liked Winesburg, Ohio (but could also appreciate EH’s parody). The KC Rep actually staged a musical version of some of its chapters last spring, and it was excellent too. Made me re-read and enjoy Winesburg in fact.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

A book I actually read!

Now I wish pathetic wana-be cosmopolitians would stop re-writing it.

WE GET IT! SMALL TOWN LIFE IS NOT A PERFECT AS PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS WAY BACK WHEN BEFORE ANY OF US WAS BORN! STOP WHINING ABOUT YOUR CHILDHOOD.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

you pretty much can't write about small towns anymore

they are either secretly filled with weirdos, or secretly filled with awesomes

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't tell that to Miriam Toews

SHe wrote the Mennonite Winesburg Ohio… except I liked it better the first time, when Rudy Wiebe wrote it.. in 1960.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

there's plenty of that coming out of Uiowa to be sure

i’m sorta proud that I spent a lot of my childhood in a small town, but when it comes down to it, the only real point or way of theorizing it I would have is that it was a great place to a 9 year old but seemed very boring for adults/teenagers

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Oooh, new question for RR:

Larry McMurtry?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

by Warden11 on Jan 22, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

solid, enjoyable to a point

every female relative I knew was reading Lonesome Dove when I was a kid, but i know for a fact I never finished it

i don’t hate, but I’m not personally down too much

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I read Lonesome Dove last year for the first time..

…because I’m going through every novel that ever won the Pulitzer.

I liked it.

I also highly recommend “The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay” by Micheal Chabon.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

As per my previously described project...

…I am currently in the middle of Independence Day.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW, I'm about a third of the way into the book right now...

…and I’m not really sure I get him. The hyper-observant, consciously unself-conscious character is interesting, but I’m waiting for actual insights…

I realize it’s a sequel, and I’m starting to wonder if I’m reading the wrong Richard Ford novel.

Over the course of my recent readings, I have learned, BTW, that the Pulitzer committee makes some odd choices now and then, and suspect that they are occassionally rewarding an author for his past work.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The small town comment made me think of him and

Last Picture Show

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

by Warden11 on Jan 22, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhh,

I, too, liked Winesburg, Ohio.

by Old Man Duggan on Jan 26, 2010 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked it, too

There’s a Robert Earl Keen song called “Wild Wind” on more or less the same theme, individual snippets of small-town life. Check it out. Keen, of course, was an English major at A&M.

I liked “The Last Picture Show” as well, both the book and the movie. And, of course, Larry McMurtry’s son, James, is a kick ass Texas country singer-songwriter.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 26, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.
And, of course, Larry McMurtry’s son, James, is a kick ass Texas country singer-songwriter.

Just got to ignore him speaking between songs.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

by Warden11 on Jan 26, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand

I can never understand why William Dean Howells is so buried. I could never stomach Dreiser, but I could see where he mattered in the scheme of things. Mostly this is an opportunity to carp about the stupid American tendency to dismiss any of its artistic products — literary, musical, etc. — created pre-1920.

Murphy was an optimist.

by The Ol' Perfesser on Jan 22, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

my sense is that howells wrote too much

but yea, some of his stuff is way better than it gets credit for

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I really liked "An American Tragedy"

And William Dean Howells bores my ass off.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 26, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Great American Novel"

There was a long period where everyone wanted to be the next Hemingway, so they neglected their personality and copied his style. Now, if they would have done the exact same things Hemingway did, but wrote how they saw it, that would be interesting. Instead, without any basis, many tried to emulate while writing about cultures they have no experience in. Even with great amounts of research, this is a fairly weak premise to begin with.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Phil, I don't want to scare you, but

we have very similar taste in authors. I read a lot of Vonnegut in high school and college and a lot of Irving in college and grad school.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I Am Fearless

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

when you do your helicopter dispatch stuff, do you also

call out medivacs, or just drilling platform stuff?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Being The Only

24 hour a day helicopter service in Cook Inlet, we are the first responders to emergency situations of all kinds. It depends on what other aviation resources are available. Medevac helicopters are stationed at Providence in Anchorage and CPGH in Soldotna. The Coast Guard has to come all the way from Kodiak.

Era Helicopters is the oldest helicopter company in the US. If it’s been done with a helicopter, we’ve done it.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I ask because my brother fell and broke his hip on

Christmas Eve and was flown to Anchorage. He was in Cooper Landing.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably One Of

The hospital ships.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm the only English major I know who chooses Hemingway over Fitzgerald

I’ve hated The Great Gatsby since I first read it in high school. It didn’t get any better when I read it in college.

by NotAHippie on Jan 22, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever read any Spanish poetry?

A lot of it doesn’t make much sense (García Lorca), a lot of it is politically obnoxious (Neruda), and a lot of it is trite (Miguel Hernández), but it’s worth checking out. I particularly like Antonio Machado, by far the most accessible of the big names, rather like Robert Frost is in English.

A good contemporary Barcelona novelist who’s been translated to English is Eduardo Mendoza. My favorite one of his was titled something like “The Truth Concerning the Savolta Case,” set in the anarchist gunslinging days of the early Twenties. I highly recommend him because you can understand what he’s talking about, unlike most contemporary Spanish novelists. And Ezra Pound.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

a little

some neruda, probably some borges (or maybe this is an assumption)

I have tried on multiple occasions to read spanish poetry in spanish… just pulling random books off the shelf at the library (god I miss having a great university library everyday)

my language skills just weren’t quite good enough to ever fully get it

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

is "message to Garcia" poetry?

its almost required that every junior Marine read it just so we can say “shut up and get the job done now!”

Warriors come out and play

by jrcnc on Jan 22, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Puccini unfairly criticized?

I know I am not supposed to like his stuff, but I love it.

"Shot by my own men."

by StonewallPDS on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

I would say yes

I can understand people criticizing certain forms of art for being declasse or whatever, but when it comes to music, if you like it, you like it.

Once on a plane I talked to a guy who was a symphony violinist or something (actually he was talking to someone else and I eventually jumped in). I said something about being ashamed of liking Brahms, and he told me that was silly.

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Puccini is unfairly criticized

There is a certain snobbery that insists that any composer who writes, you know, actual tunes must somehow be pandering to knuckle-dragging lowlifes. Puccini isn’t really my thing, but dang, he could write incredible melodies. Most of his critics couldn’t write one if their lives depended on it.

Murphy was an optimist.

by The Ol' Perfesser on Jan 22, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

boxers or briefs?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Cowboy style

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

tried boxers for about a week in middle school

hate the way they felt: i just felt like i was wearing a pair of shorts under my jeans

it was somehow too much and not enough at the same time

don’t understand the appeal, and sense that no one is wearing them now

i think my generation went to briefs/boxer-briefs pretty hardcore

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

boxer-brief revolution!

UNITE!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

boxer briefs are good

although sometimes i find the parts around the thighs (basically the leg part) to be annoyingly tight and annoying loose

it has to be in the middle of those two outcomes, or else it gets uncomfortable

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Golden Thong, Baby!

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

There's that

and there goes my sight/memory/IQ/reason….motor skills……………….sdfjiopal ……Phil in golden thong surrounded by clubbed baby seals………………….(dead)

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, It's Dead

Beluga whales here in Cook Inlet. No one knows why, but their numbers have diminished to maybe 10% of what they were when I got here. Biologists are puzzling over this as I type.

Amazingly, I could wear a thong in the right circumstances without undue embarrassment. Good genes, I guess. My European wife called them butt floss, and she refused to wear one, but she rocked the stringiest of the string bikinis in her day. Very good genes there.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I blame you

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by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I Accept Full

Blame for my wife’s and my good genes. There were no aquatic mammals involved in any way.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

so you claim...

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by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I'm English,

Scots-Irish, Dutch, French and Indian; who knows where Flipper might have gotten into that action.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you are a mammal

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by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

A-team or Air Wolf?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Teen Wolf

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by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Team Wolf?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of Airwolf,

but it’s definitely the A-Team.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 22, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

On a scale of "A little" to "More than TPJ",

how bad is the new A-Team movie going to suck?

Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Jan 22, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It'll be a TPJ-Yuni hybrid

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Your lateral movement skills are second to none!

Second to NONE!!!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

LOVED A_Team as a 9 year old

I remember one time, must have been around christmas, when i had to chose between watching my A-team and watching what was referred to always in my house as a “special”, which was when one of the networks would show a kids show (like rudolf or charlie brown or garfield in prime time)

I had no idea what to pick and was tormented by this

I didn’t watch Teen Wolf until college, but found it amazing

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Airwolf? Ya hear that black menacing helicoptor out your window now?

NO YOU DON"T ! Because it was stealth/silent mode too! COME ON!

It was like Knight Rider with awesome!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

knioght rider was also awesome

but i could never go all the way with it because I liked the male “i love cars” gene

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, got the cars gene

Rebuilt a couple old muscle cars in my spare time through Middle School-Grad. School.

Though they don’t fly, hence Airwolf was better than Knight Rider

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

lacked

god I’m posting some atrocious errors today

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

obviously I'm rubbing off on people around here

or he said

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

the office crossed a threshold last night

they had a flashbacks/greatest hits epiosde

not bad, but a major bummer nonetheless

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched it for a while

we’ve been watching something else, and I keep getting too lazy to download it

I’m one of the millions of dorks watching late night talk shows for the first time in years this week… I was a big Conan fan back in the day, but once PimpBot stopped visiting, it lost its charm. Surely PimpBot will come back tonight? So much better than the Masturbating Bear.

I still think PimpBot would be a great manager/GM for the Royals.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

late night hasn't been relevant for me since the late 90s

i enjoyed conan then, but never asmuch as everyone around me

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Better Off Ted

Is starting to take front stage with me and Mrs. MVPRoC.

It is like Arrested Development…only in a huge biotech corp. It’s win win for me!

The loss of AD I totally blame on the American people who need a laugh track to tell them when to laugh, and Fox.)

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

insert plug for modern family here

though they need to de-Michael Scott the one character a little bit

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and de-dress the trophy wife a bit, too

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

the other wife...

there’s no way she’s whatever age she’s supposed to be on that show

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, they're both attractive

um, did I miss the one where Julie Bowen is in her underwear?

I mean, just for continuity purposes…

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

time to start downloadin'

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 23, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

And Like Arrested Development

It also has Portia de Rossi in a good role. :)

I really enjoy that show as well. Lem and Phil are probably my favorite characters…especially last week when they came to the realization that they were actually evil scientists.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, their realization was freaken awesome!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially The One About The People-Skinning Laser

I also enjoyed Lem’s frustrations when his co-worker was nailing his mom. :)

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been catching it on Hulu

So I’ll make sure to delete that episode, too many shows on Thursday night as of right now. Chuck’s the only NBC program that gets my actual live viewing and I only started watching it three weeks ago.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

30 Rock

is also definitely worth watching

I like Chuck too, but only because Agent Walker is astoundingly hot.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like 30 Rock, but it gets lost in the cracks sometimes

It’s hard to work and go to school for 15 hours and catch everything. I try to stay focused and watch all of the hour long programs and then fit in thirty minute ones if I have a break.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

roughly the same feeling about Chuck

obviously, it’s lost a bit off of its fastball, and they’re hotshotting the lingerie scenes in a desparate attempt not to get canceled, but decent show

especially for NBC

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the whole Late Night Debacle helps the shows avoid cancellation

NBC is picking up tons of extra episodes to fill their slots, and Chuck has been pulling decent ratings for NBC. The whole network TV concept is slipping with the advance of cable, premium, and internet content. Unfortunately, that means as many Jersey Shores get picked up as Mad Men’s, but I’ll take Mad Men as a consolation prize for knowing MTV still is on the air.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

BOTH!

I liked the A-Team better, but remember watching both with my dad.

by AxDxMx on Jan 22, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

choose any Russian novel I had to read.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

"Crime and Punishment"

kicks ass.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never finished a D novel

came close with either Brothers K or C&P, but definitely never finished

which one is the one where they’re talking to the devil/jesus all the time?

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I Read C&P

Of my own accord after I got out of school. The same with Les Miserables. I enjoyed them both. I read almost all of Rand around that time, too. Her style made my eyes bleed, but the ideas expressed interested me in the mid ’70s. Then I realized they sucked, too.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Rand is definitely a writer people get WAY into

I probably had 4 or 5 different people recommend her between HS and early college, which, if you think about it, is astounding, since all the other writers who ever lived are all tied at 1 recommendation

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's because of political leanings more than the writing

That’s just how I see Rand fans, I just think it inspires extreme reactions.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Libertarian, I Believe,

Is the name for the philosophy. It is big in Alaska. My hard core Republican friend, Jim Davis (President of Accuracy in Academia), always brings up NAMBLA when I mention the Libertarian party. It’s his wooden stake to their Dracula.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Libertarian

She’s the one who pushed me in that direction when I read “The Fountainhead”, but I didn’t agree at all with her rather cultish leanings on how she treated her Objectivist followers. She just had this creepy idea that if you agreed with her political choices you must obviously agree with her asthetic ones as well and if you didn’t you were the worst kind of intellectual hypocrite.

Basically, she’s a good starting point if you want to learn about free will and individual choice, but you have to quit reading her if you want to progress as a person.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i know we ended up talking about her stuff once in a grad class on modernism

and it was jarring, because i’d never seen her work in an academic setting

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

She Was A Brilliant Person

No doubt about that. And she was right about a lot of things and I still agree with her about many of her positions. But that god complex of hers undermines it.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

it would have been great if she had read any of the philosophers she liked to disparage

I can only assume she didn’t read them

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I drug my way through Anthem...

…wasn’t impressed.

Also, I’m not a fan of libertarianism. That may not be a coincidence.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I Give Anthem A "Meh"

“We The Living” was more interesting. “The Fountainhead” was her best work, IMO. I read “Atlas Shrugged” and it had some interesting ideas, but I quit with about 100 pages left because it got so repetitive and I wasn’t interested any more in how the story turned out.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

She Did...She Just Liked To Sharpshoot

Just a bitter, angry person on so many levels. She eventually destroyed her own Objectivist movement because of her inability to find joy in life.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that, and Nathaniel Branden wouldn't, um... well...

gotta give her props for inspiring lots of Rush lyrics, though

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

True

If you haven’t read “Radicals For Capitalism” it goes into detail about the Rand-Branden split. Utterly childish on her part.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you've read

Murray Rothbard’s short one-act play about his interactions with the early Rand circle,

Mozart was a Red

The Rothbardians are curious, too, of course, but the play is pretty funny.

Not a Rand expert, natch.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Rothbard Had Some Good Ideas As Well

But he also reportedly was the one who wrote the more racist passages in that newsletter that got Ron Paul in so much trouble (deservedly so).

That’s not to say that Rothbard or Paul didn’t also have ideas that deserve serious consideration, but that you have to be careful not to see them as infallible as so many of their followers do.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so she did read them, and didn't understand them?

hard to believe from the greatest mind since Aristotle

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 22, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

She Just Sought Perfection

I believe that’s why she dismissed them so easily…if they didn’t tie in completely to her own philosophy she would often use it as a reason to discard theirs in its entirety. Which is a very limiting way to look at the world…although I suppose a person with a god complex wouldn’t see it that way.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Even If Someone's Not Right About Everything

It doesn’t mean they aren’t right about some things.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Notes from Underground

is actually quite good, and very manageable. Of course, not sure it’s properly classed as a “novel,” but it’s still good.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

…this whole conversation, when people talked about C&P, I was actually thinking of Notes from Underground. And I didn’t realize it until this moment. I read both, but Notes was lots more memorable, I guess. And, yeah, it is good.

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

someone help me out here...

which one is the one where you have to decide between killing one innocent to save the group/humanity? and was also quoted in the weird debate/pro-life movie Listen to Me

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I've only read

Notes From Underground. It was a very long 180 pages or so.

by Old Man Duggan on Jan 26, 2010 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

"The Cherry Orchard"

kicks ass, too.

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by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the least likely post

to a sports website ever.

Hey, can I change my screen name to "CentralChamps20??"?

by CentralChamps2009 on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd try to get away with

“‘The Master and Margarita’ kicks ass,” but I only got about halfway through it and it didn’t make much sense to me.

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by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

have to go with shakespeare

i understand the desire to keep teaching it, but at this point it’s actually more useful to just read a detailed summary of the plots of the big plays one afternoon and move on

the whole experience just creates the worst kind of disingenuous learning experience ever, at the HS level you don’t have the time to dig too much into the background that you need, and most kids don’t have the reading skills to get anything out of reading it… so its all just Cliff Notes based

I like old stuff, but at some point, the language gets too obsolete. All those hours would be better spent on eighteenth or nineteenth century texts, where the language is still reachable

I read MacBeth (at my fashionable public elementary in a nice part of town) in 5th grade, which is just insanity

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I Read Shakespeare

On my own while attending Topeka West. It fascinated me. If you ever want to tell someone to blow you in a civilized, socially acceptable way, Willie is the man to consult.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also useful for making everything a double entendre.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Life In A

Small town has made me realize that everything said is at least a double entendre. It depends on how many people hear what is said.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That's ridiculous

I would say high school isn’t the place for Shakespeare either. I have a class on it currently, and reading it again, I realize how much I missed that first time through. It doesn’t do it service. Then again, are plays meant to be read anyways?

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

another great point

if you’re gonna read 12th Night or whatever, spend a month on it and have the class act it out

we also read like a Book or Two of Paradise Lost in HS, which was equally insane and really hard for people to handle b/c of the religious aspect

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yea

between the people who have to aggressively be atheist to the hardcores who see small differences between milton & scripture and are angry about it= just a terrible situation

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by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

My Senior English Teacher

made us memorize 25 lines from Paradise Lost. I never understood what the point of that exercise was.

by Old Man Duggan on Jan 26, 2010 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually feel kind of bad for Salinger

because of how trite that novel has become. I’m fairly certain that if Holden was an actual person, he would now hate the book. I’ve read all of his other published work, and Catcher in the Rye is probably average at best compared to his other stuff. (In my opinion anyway.)

by KCBear on Jan 22, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

I definitely was not at all impressed by Catcher. But may have to check out other works if they are actually better.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Salinger isn't for everyone

but I really like him. He only has a handful of published stories, but I like Franny and Zooey as well as Seymour an Introduction a lot.

by KCBear on Jan 23, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I wrote a limerick about that book

back when we had to read it in tenth grade.

There once were two boys, Gene and Finny
One was buff but the other was skinny
Then Gene, from on high
Pushed Finny, who died
And as for our story, c’est fini.

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by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i listened to that book on tape when i was 11 I think

and it was incredibly moving… of course, i was pre-pubescent, so the all-male boarding school aspect (or whatever they are at) seemed like paradise

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

All of it?

but seriously, why not make bigger vacuums than these. Perhaps for ferrel cats, or dogs, or children.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

US 89 In

Montana was paved with the remains of those critters when I drove it in the ’80s.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

montana or alaska?

whats better

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by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Alaska

In Montana there are more vacationers from California that die/get lost, and the media makes a big deal outta it.

In Alaska less people travel there and when they get lost…….nothing gets out. Nothing. Therefore thus, living in Alaska is better. It is like what Montana used to be about 80 years ago.

Though I’ve only lived in one of those states for a handful of years and visited the other a handful of times.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Alaska Is Still

A singular experience. Every few years or so I start to think we’ve fucked this place up to the point where it’s just like the Lower 48 (HI doesn’t count, apparently). Then I fly to CA or AZ or NC or KS and I realize why I wouldn’t want to live there any more. We’ve only had a few decades to fuck this place up. We’re working on it, though.

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by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

At least it isn't the Rodinator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeywW7r4LA4

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jan 22, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's good for the environment

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

England, of course

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Scotland Forever

“Death to the British,” – Any former British colony, ever.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Jan 22, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

WALES!!!!!!!!!!!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Isle of Man!

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by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They have beer there right?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I've spent some time in the UK

Rule: The farther north you get beyond about Oxford, the crappier it gets. Exceptions: The Lake District, the nice part of Edinburgh, and the Scottish highlands, where nobody lives. If you thought Detroit sucked, you’ve never seen Leeds.

“God, I wish we’d been a British colony” —Any former French, Belgian, etc. colony.

Three of my four grandparents were probably mostly Scottish, or Scotch-Irish; one of our family surnames is Stuart, another is Shannon, and a third is Colley. We don’t know for sure where they came from because we have no records of them back beyond their all living in central Tennessee according to the 1800 census. So I don’t think there’s any ethnic prejudice in my preference for Southeast England.

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by Juancho on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Same

I studied in Exeter for a semester and while I didn’t do an extensive amount of traveling I can definitely back up what you’re saying. Everything I saw in southern England was pretty cool, even Bristol was fairly charming. Except for Southampton, that kinda seemed like a dump although I only passed through. Brighton is neat.

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by awolfson on Jan 22, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there is definitely a run down quality to the UK that I think most americans aren't expecting

I have never been to scotland, and haven’t travelled much in England: London, Oxford, and… the bus route in between

honeymooned in ireland and loved it, figure scotland would be similar, plus I can annoyingly treat it as my homeland

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

small world

I studied in Exeter for a year. When were you there? I was in 00-01. A great time to be away America during the dark, dark moment of that presidential election.

Where did you live? I lived in Llewellyn Mews, a Uni-maintained building of flats nearish the train station.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I can imagine

back then they just laughed at our hanging chads and felt vaguely sorry for us for winding up with a colossal doofus as our leader.

it ceased to be such a laughing matter by 2003.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

my wife began her obligatory "i'm studying abroad so I am going to EuroRail it around Europe for a month" trip...

… literally the night the war started

of course, groups of 21 year old girls have a way of surviving ok, but not the time you want to end up in the turkish quarter of hamburg looking for a hostel either

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah about that.

WHY?

(kidding I’ve been over to the signing thread, or what I like to call it; Cluster F*** in the Outfield Thread.)

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The Royals Are Almost Never Interesting To Me Anymore

Someone posted an article on Arrowhead Pride about the Ankiel signing and I had nothing to do so I popped over to see how fans in KC still viewed the team. Personally, I quit on them once they acquired Mike Jacobs and the article I saw in your archives about how Dayton Moore thinks of the fans tells me it was the right choice. Figure that until the Glass family no longer owns the team, I’m just going to treat them like old-time fans treat the Athletics…like they moved away or disbanded.

(No disrespect intended towards anyone here…I stuck around through the Robinson and Baird years but three crappy GMs in a row is all anyone should be required to take).

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You Guys Run A Good Site, Though

Whenever we have Royals fans who show up on AP and post stuff about the Royals there, I always give you guys a shout-out.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a post on Chiefs/Royals scheduled for Sunday night… seems like they’re doing similar things, only the Chiefs are doing better

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

About Right

Can’t say as Pioli’s impressed me much since he got here. All I see is a guy who acts like he’s got all the answers but basically just goes digging through Belichick’s and Parcells’ scrap heaps because he hasn’t got an original thought of his own.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I Like This Friday Post You Do, By The Way

Where you do a free association thing and people talk about whatever. Might be something worth bringing up on AP for the offseason when news gets slow.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Those posts would turn into mock drafts

just guessing though!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Possibly So :)

It does seem to rotate that way for football. The NFL draft is probably the most compelling of all the major sports because they’ve marketed it so well.

But a b.s. session thread every once in awhile might go over well. We did something like that awhile ago, but I think the format we used was a problem.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, the NFL draft matters.

…and not in a “we’ll see how that worked out in four years” kind of way…

by kcemigre on Jan 22, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It Helps That The Bust Rate Is So Much Lower

And that people actually watch college football on TV and know who the players are and often have an emotional investment in them. Most of the players in the MLB draft you’ve never heard of until their name is called.

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

it's changing though with the times...

We’ll know about all the first round guys this coming year because of the MLB network I’m sure…

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by 306008 on Jan 26, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

never could happen on AP

237,980 different mocks would ensue, then several fanshots about the Marty and the Raiders. I love AP but the mocks have kinda drove me off lately.

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by jrcnc on Jan 22, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

tough tough call

I really disliked Elarton: hated what he was supposed to represent (team veteran/leader), hated that he called out the team for not caring, hated his windup immensely, hated how slowly he pitched, etc

but during the baird era, I wasn’t as emotionally invested in the team being smart or dumb the way I have been with dayton, where the bad moves just really really annoy me

I hate Bloomquist in the way I hate Favre: its really less about him than about how he’s talked about that is annoying

but the royals never let you rest: i hated gathright, and eventually came to think he wasn’t all that terrible because i kept being handed worse

also: ken harvey

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

buck

he stole bako’s place

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by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Freel

who the Fu$% gets their first hit on a new team courtesy of a catchers interferance???

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by jrcnc on Jan 22, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Guillén

because he sucks, he’s way overpaid, he’s an asshole, and he doesn’t give a shit. At least Podsednik tries to play well, though he finds it difficult. Number two would be Farnsy, because he’s nasty, brutish, and a lousy pitcher.

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by Juancho on Jan 28, 2010 3:54 AM EST up reply actions  

no

and I don’t know what you are talking about

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Greened for the unknown overflow thread girl; name her contest !!

May all women with weird sox that don’t cover their feet be named as such from this point forward!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Gatti Folgers

great name, and I am sure several wives/SOs are unaware of varying degress of mates’ interest in Ms Folgers.

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

True so true

Of course sometimes she wouldn’t let people go to the overflow thread, but instead stay on the initial thread…..for a time….she can be mean like that.

I think we need an official screening process for some of them, they can be a bit sketchy.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If only we could get Dayton Moore to do this

…he’s probably already moved on to signing Jonny Gomes to a three-year deal with a mutual option, while taking frequent breaks to shop Alex Gordon to the Braves and Mariners

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Jan 22, 2010 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

in other words, he doesn't ask questions after making deals

it’s all about the deals, baby! straight ballionaire style

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Jan 22, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the problem

a pretty open ended chat with about 90% of the front office people in baseball would be fascinating, only, they’d never say anything

i know that the seattle bloggers actually came to like bavasi personally after some of their events, and i can see that happening between moore and myself in some hypotetical situation in which i was relevant to get to know him

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure that LL put together a meet and great + questions with the Ms

Though I think you already knew that.

/hangs head

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I came close to trying to organize one last year

and then sorta backed away when rany started planning the BP event, which would have been basically the same thing

the west coast teams definitely have more of a web-friendly dynamic

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That is sweet!

but you wouldn’t want to get banned from the team, stadium, interwebs if you asked a tough baseball question to the panel that would represent the Royals FO.

I read a bit from the LL event, and they did ask some pretty tough questions but all were screened before hand, so the snark level was at a minimum. Still though some questions were really good.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well and it's tough because you can't answer specific questions

about specific moves/players, and you can’t ask hypotheticals

i’m not sure how interesting it would be to have piccolo or arbuckle say, “we trust our scouting people” 500 different ways

i had a vision of some kind of weird fan fest type meet and greet with rany, mellinger, a FO representative, and some bloggers… probably not really a great idea in retrospect

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

underrated: the weather and the location. it gets pretty hot and muggy during the summer, but no more so than most of the midwest and all of the south & compared to when I lived in iowa, indiana or ohio, the winters are very mild. it pretty much doesn’t get colder than 20 degrees for a daytime temp, and you never get that december-february slog where it’s always absolutely freezing and snow is regularly disrupting your life and you feel absolutely godawful for weeks at a time

and, everything on the east coast is just smaller (although the traffic kills 50% of the benefit) so you’re really close to lots of cool stuff

overrated: this may just be me, but if you don’t work in politics/govt/defense you can feel like you’re a bit left out. i’m surrounded by people with amazingly cool jobs, and I don’t have one

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree w/r/t the weather

DC weather is quite mild. Compared to the rest of the Eastern seaboard, you don’t get all the foggy dismal rain. The heat in the summers are wildly exaggerated. And the spring and fall are very pretty.

I think the most overrated part of living in DC is believing in a theoretical advantage many people have upon moving here. Basically, I thought things would be more efficiently run in DC simply based upon its close proximity to the bastions of government decision making. At the very least, you would think that the District would be well-funded. Instead, DC has no federal representation, high taxes, no public finances, terrible public schools, one of the most corrupt local political machines in the nation (seriously, we make 19th C. Tammany Hall look mild), and widespread apathy with the exception of protests on a license plate.

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Jan 22, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

dupont

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Jan 22, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

we lived there last year

not to get political, but my wife and I are liberals who do not allow ourselves to bitch about taxes… but the taxes in DC are pretty appealing and, two months after we filed we got a notice saying we hadn’t paid (which was 100% not true)

it created a gigantic nightmare that last months… just a completely awful experience

and the way they handle cars is a complete scam, but that’s another thing all together

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

appealing=appalling

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering...

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

who doesn’t love an “appealing scam”

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 22, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I always laughed at the ‘taxation without representation’ license plates. Then I remembered that it wasn’t funny because whoever titled their car in DC just paid the absurdly high 12% sales tax on their vehicle, instead of paying the absurdly low 4% in VA.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

we are enjoying it

but you do always have that guilt about it, and at times it seems a little too fratty

all of our friends seem to be migrating to Capital Hill/Eastern Market, which is somehow at once too expensive and a little too real for my wife and I to do

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a lot of Gov't workers are moving to the Eastern Market area

A lot of people i know in the private sector are migrating to the U St corridor, which is basically like Arlington but with a more history

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Jan 22, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved Arlington and Alexandria

Lived there from 1999-2002. To me it was the perfect compromise between the expense of actually living in the District, and not being too far out in the burbs. Of course, I would imagine by now the rental/housing market has compensated to the point where most of Arlington is just as expensive as DC.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 22, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

people bag on arlington for being too suburban

yet it feels more urban to me than most of the cities i’ve seen, same with say, alexandria or silver spring

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to hear what those same people would think of

Kansas City. Even downtown.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

once a city goes donut

it just isn’t going to comeback

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by LeoBloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

For those away from KC

What are outside people’s opinions of Kansas City?

In St. Louis, I would say the views are more polarized, despite the similarities. I just remember people typically calling it uncultured and wondered if anyone else found themselves defending KC often.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I think here it has a pretty generic rep

it’s just an average american city: it’s not seen as horribly run down or impoverished (like detroit or cleveland) but also not interesting and hip (Seattle) or uncultured either

i’d say it has no reputation good or bad

for me, i put in a category of cities with Cincy & Indy, which aren’t geographically southern, but have a little bit of that vibe mixing with the general midwestern city vibe

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was just related to World Cup backlash

KC, Indy, and Nashville were selected as potential sites for the World Cup, and Chicago and SF people were outraged as if it were an indictment of their cities and not a lack of quality stadiums. They said these three cities were uncultured, which is both untrue and slightly idiotic.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by Joseph Landis on Jan 22, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I really miss KC

Seattle may be hip, but only if you have an opinion on EVERYTHING and have a disparagingly low knowledge of said topic. In continuation you may only hang out with a small group of friends, this is so people don’t have to meet new people and open themselves up to ….other ideas.

My wife and I are fairly outgoing people, and have been actually shocked at how we were treated at various get togethers. Needless to say we’ve been here a year, and the only people we hung out with just moved to Minneapolis. (they weren’t originally from Seattle) I have yet to meet a genuinely nice person from Seattle that was born and raised here.

Basically people in Seattle are too self centered to give a damn. If you aren’t for their ‘CAUSE OF THE MOMENT!’ Then you must be against them.

GOD DAMN I MISS THE MIDWEST!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh and I would like to further explain...

my jokes about cars running purely on baby dolphin tears, or baby fur seal tears, don’t go over very well here.

That is strike two Seattle!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 22, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You Should Move To Arizona, Like I Did This Past Summer

Here the humor’s all politically incorrect. As long as you don’t espouse a political opinion that says anything nice about Mexican immigrants (which puts me on the outs here every once in awhile as I’m pro-immigration).

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by UCrawford on Jan 22, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I read that

strange, well atleast I’m not the only one with wierd interactions

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 23, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I dated a girl in law school

who grew up in Albany (NY) and went to college at Villanova. She knew I was from Kansas City, and I just assumed she understood at least where it was. We were getting some groceries or booze or something at a store one night, and while we were waiting to check out, I picked up an atlas and started flipping through it (I’ve got a weird thing about looking at maps). Anyway, she was looking at it as I was on a continental US page. She says “oh” and I say “what?” “I thought Kansas City was more like over here.” She was pointing at Idaho.

They don’t focus too much on geography in East Coast educations. It’s all flyover country to them.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 22, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

east coast bias!!!! argh!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 23, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to constantly tell people that I didn’t live in Kansas….

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I never lived in KC

but my dad was from there (hence the fandom). As someone who chose to move to Minneapolis and then Austin, TX, when electing to move to a new place as an adult, my priorities might be out of whack, but I don’t think I could ever live in Kansas City. It doesn’t seem to me that there is enough to do from the standpoint of someone who wants every touring band to roll through town or see every Almodovar film in the theater. KC also strikes me as a more religious town than I would like. Austin? Minneapolis? Populated with heathens. That’s the way I like it.

by Old Man Duggan on Jan 26, 2010 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

You need to try Nikiski

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 26, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

which one is you?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 27, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Both, Of Course.

I couldn’t choose between the badass camo hat and the classic tri-corner.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 27, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if I told you or not

but there was an article in the Omaha World-Herald about these guys and they mentioned your wonderful town.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 28, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Go To Google

And type in Ignatius Piazza; enjoy. He’s another neighbor of mine (sometimes).

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 29, 2010 4:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn!

Those Russkis will never eff with Alaska!

by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Best part of Alexandria was the restaurant Thai Old Town – outstanding panang curry.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You really thought this? Not to be an ass, but I always figured it would be a mess because it's so close to the government.
I think the most overrated part of living in DC is believing in a theoretical advantage many people have upon moving here. Basically, I thought things would be more efficiently run in DC simply based upon its close proximity to the bastions of government decision making

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

by Warden11 on Jan 22, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

there are just so many things that get weird because you have so few layers of govt

county, city, and state are all collapsed into one entity and it just creates weirdness

in some ways, there isn’t enough pure govt in dc

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hence the 12% or whatever it is sales tax – no state thus no state income tax thus the success of the pentagon city shopping center.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I lived in Fairfax, VA and Springfield, VA when I went to GMU – prior to my realization that it was out of state, thus expensive.

I used to date a girl that went to GW, so I spent a lot of time in the foggy bottom area, but I only ever lived in the burbs.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i fear the day that my wife and i will between the three of us

live in one of dc/va/md, and each work in one of the remaining three

fun to get to file multiple state income taxes

by Freneau on Jan 24, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The cherry blossoms are overrated and underrated. I rented a paddle boat for an hour with some friends and paddling down the potomac, during the cherry blossom festival, was pretty cool.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Jan 23, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

it seems to me that crab cakes are a highly divergent item: the ratio between crab meat to bready filling seems all over the place, so it really depends on if you like a lump of crab meat or if you like a hush puppie with crab meat in it

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Very astute analysis

The lumpier the better to me. I got my fill of hush puppies when I was a kid and my parents would take my sister and I to Red Lobster. If you like lumpy, and you’re in the DC area, Phillips is probably your best bet (as far as the non-high-end seafood places).

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 22, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Drive to Baltimore and go to Al's Seafood in Essex

A real old school place but excellent crabs and crabcakes

by Olentangy on Jan 22, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

remember when we all loved Marvin Harrison b/c he wasn't a bad guy like TO

and then it turned out that Marvin probably killed a guy

fun times

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

that’s pretty crazy.

meanwhile, TO got to hang out with Joanna Krupa….

by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What will be more?

Degrees F in DC on the hottest day this summer

or

Number of Royal losses

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jan 22, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

DC temp

royals have too much decent pitching to lose 95+ guys

we do forget how awful they were a few years back: comparable lineup with maybe Tejeda as the best pitcher on the staff

by Freneau on Jan 22, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

not to mention their division

Conversation b/t Special baseball operations consultant Zapp Brannigan and GM Dayton Moore: "...but paper covers rock and rock crushes scissors...we have a conundrum. Get me some paper, a rock, and some scissors."

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 23, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

except they are the worst team in the division

and the second worst team in the AL

100 losses is extremely unlikelly, but definitely in play

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 23, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I am just seeing a huge melt down year coming up

There are just so many ways for this team to head south and only a couple possibilities of the team improving.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jan 23, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

if we trade DDJ and Meche is injured

we’re halfway there

it could get ugly, especially because I think the general public is now skeptical of the regime

by Freneau on Jan 23, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Trading Callaspo also

Starters aren’t deep and we should expect to lose 1 to 2 full season from them.

Davies, Hoch and Tejeda will be see significant time as starters (if they aren’t the ones hurt). No one really ready to step up and start.

The only upside is that it starts click for Luke and Alex.

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman on Jan 23, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Luke, Alex, and BIlly could all have 5 WAR seasons

and Greinke a 7, and this team could still miss .500 by a lot

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 23, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

my question

does it seems like maybe all the outfielder signings are really Frank Caliendo doing a characature(sp?) of GMDM?

My stories a lot like yours only more interesting because it involves robots!

by AvilesRotY on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

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