Maybe Dayton is a sly, cunning genius
by Juancho on Jan 27, 2010 7:09 AM EST
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Let's pretend.
Let's imagine that Dayton Moore understands that 2010 and probably 2011 are rebuilding years, in which the Royals have no chance to compete. He has also known all along that the minor league system he inherited is very weak, and that he needs some young players ready for the major leagues in 2012.
So he decides to buy a lot of cheap crap and throw it at the wall, assuming some of it is going to stick. Then he'll be able to trade it away at the deadline and pick up some prospects to shore up the minors.
Best-case scenario, at the deadline:
Ankiel hits 15 HRs and drives in 40 runs. Somebody's right fielder gets injured. Dayton trades Ankiel for a couple of prospects.
Podsednik is hitting .300 and steals 20 bases. Somebody's left fielder gets injured. Dayton trades Pods for a prospect.
Yuni is hitting .260 and has not made any disastrous defensive plays. Somebody's shortstop gets injured. Dayton trades Yuni for a couple of semi-prospects.
Anderson is hitting .275 and has not gotten hit on the head with the ball. Somebody's backup outfielder gets injured. Dayton trades Anderson for half a prospect.
And, in the wildest of dreams, Guillén realizes this is a contract year, shows up at training camp in shape, and hits a lucky streak, with 12 HR and 35 RBI. Somebody's DH gets hurt. Dayton convinces Omar Minaya to take Guillén and the $6 million still owed him in exchange for some Triple-A filler.
Not even the best-case scenario can comprehend signing Kendall, though.
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That might
just work. But I still don’t think any genius goes anywhere near Yuni.
that would be awesome
but, even though i’ve defended DM, I don’t know what the fark he is thinking with these roster moves. my worry is that he trades DDJ and our resulting OF is terrible, or he trades callaspo for less than value, or he DFA’s Maier, or Kila doesn’t at least get a shot (not sure if he has options or what). i’m on board with the need for more depth, but this is a little overboard.
i suppose it is very easy to see a scenario where we send Brian Anderson, Getz, and Fields down to AAA, and then as soon as people get hurt they’re going to be up. If that’s what DM ended up doing, then we’ve got all those pieces and nothing lost. I’m just not totally confident that DM will make the correct moves with respect to this roster.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jan 27, 2010 8:07 AM EST reply actions
Round is a shape
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I don't think any of them will net great prospects
At best I think you’re looking at a failed former prospect like Kyle Davies or an intriguing, unpolished arm in low A ball.
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or even good prospects
if you look at the recent history of deadline deals for rent-a-players (who are only months away from free agency), very few involve even decent prospects, and almost all of those involved elite players like Sabathia or Holliday — the return for Mark Teixeira in his walk year was Casey Kotchman. Teams are getting smarter about the value of players they will only have a two months.
Expectations for a return on any of these guys, even under the wishful thinking scenario, need to be low.
by Gopherballs on Jan 27, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Let's continue pretending
What if Dayton made a deal with the devil and slipped Ankiel and Guillén a couple million apiece to roid up for the first half of the season? There’s got to be some new substance that’s nearly undetectable that they could take, and they’ve both done it before, so I don’t think they’d have any scruples.
Then we’d get better prospects for them at midseason.
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
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Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "In the game of chess you can never let your opponent see your pieces"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 27, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
He hasnt shown he likes to trade players for prospects though
Pretty much the opposite (Yuni, etc). Which really makes sense
I agree
I can’t remember any deadline deals GMDM has made, when he could have.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Dotel for Davies
But the problem is that he’s had VERY few players that were desired by other teams at the deadline.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 27, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Actually...
…An Ankiel flip this year would look a lot like the Dotel-for-Davies flip:
1: Like Dotel, Ankiel very much needs to prove that he’s healthy and able to perform at his prior level.
2: Like Dotel, we seem to have gotten Ankiel because we promised him a “high value” role (thereby helping him accomplish his goals in relation to #1, above). For Dotel, that role was closer, for Ankiel, it’s CF.
3: Like Dotel, Ankiel is signed to a contract that would be more than acceptable to a contender at the deadline, when it’s time to pick up less-than-half of the salary (I’m assuming that Ankiel’s mutual option works the same way Olivo’s did, meaning it is, essentially, a one-year deal).
It’s a gamble, but not a dumb one… especially if you assume that we didn’t have have any really good options in CF heading in to the season (that’s debatable, depending on your definition of “really good options.”).
By the way, even though Davies hasn’t lived up to expectations, I think that signing Dotel and flipping him for Davies remains one of Moore’s smarter moves… more, not less, of that is “good” in my mind.
BTW...
I was thinking more about Dotel than Ankiel, when I said this:
It’s a gamble, but not a dumb one…
If you believe that Ankiel is likely to establish himself as a desireable CF, then the statment applies to him, too. …but the truth is, I liked Dotel’s chances a couple years ago lots better than I like Ankiel’s chances right now.
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by philofthenorth on Jan 27, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
How about this one
Dayton hires a rogue ex-CIA agent to spike Guillén’s drink with rohypnol and chloral hydrate, and then set him up in a hotel room with a couple of male prostitutes and a high-def video camera. Blackmail: if Guillén doesn’t retire, invalidating his contract, the Lucky Pierre photos get published in the Dominican edition of the National Enquirer.
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 27, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions
gin = yes please
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 28, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'd feel better if Dayton had a substance abuse problem.
Then it could be treated and there would be reasonable hope for improvement. Unfortunately he seems to be completely sober when he defends his actions. :(
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he's a cunning little runt
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 29, 2010 4:39 AM EST up reply actions
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