Dayton Moore Had A Mild Comeback In 2010, Now The Real Work Starts
by Freneau on Oct 4, 2010 2:30 PM EDT
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PrintLast December, I wrote about how Dayton Moore could have a comeback year in 2010. Now that the 2010 season is officially over, it's a good time to reflect on the year that was or wasn't. Was Dayton able to follow any of my recommendations?
- Have a Relatively Non-Horrible Winter on the Free Agent Market: This one is a tough call. Moore had a typical Moore winter. Jason Kendall, the major signing early, was later augmented by Brian Anderson, Scott Podsednik, and Rick Ankiel. These were all generally bad moves, though they did later generate some minor trades. Anderson became a pitcher, Pods became a Dodger, and Ankiel became a Brave. Not sure if that was the original plan, but that's how it ended up. Anderson essentially quit baseball as a Major Leaguer, and Ankiel was terrible.
- Be Honest About Where the Team Is: Eventually, this happened. The Royals eventually tore down a fair amount of the roster, though because of bad luck (supposedly) they weren't able to move their most realistically trade-able asset in David DeJesus. The team also, arguably, waited too long to trade guys like Brian Bannister and Gil Meche, and instead hung on to them long enough to see them completely destroy their trade value. The initial hot-streak under Ned Yost seemed to have Dayton a wobbling a little bit, but eventually he did the right thing and blew up the 2010 Royals.
In part, by the above criteria, I think it was a comeback year, to a point. There's still the totally mis-managed catching situation, another poorly constructed defense, the near-complete erosion of the pitching staff, and the questionable handling of Alex Gordon and Gil Meche. Most of Dayton's "comeback" was simply not screwing up as much as he did in 2009. I do think we saw some needed honesty about the state of the team, and, finally, a willingness to attempt to sell the fans on an actual rebuild. I think trying to rebuild, while holding onto Soria and Greinke is a gamble, but I can see the thinking. Talking up 2012 seems both close enough and far enough away in 2010, but it may end up costing Moore his job someday. It's out there now.
In terms of the overall health of the franchise, the biggest story of 2010 was the development of a number of players in the minors, and that really didn't have much to do with direct actions taken by Dayton in the last year. We're now three years removed from the Guillen contract, which was a serious blow to the franchise. Moore hasn't made a big move since, everything else has been straight out of the Baird era, just with slightly more of a bizzaro touch and a higher price tag.
As we've seen, the most frustrating thing about Moore's last few years is that there just doesn't seem to be a coherent... process. Just look at how the infield has played out. Think about what happened in the vortex of Plan Bs that produced the Alberto Callaspo/Chris Getz/Mike Aviles/Alex Gordon square dance. Heading into 2011, we'll now if the Front Office has it's act together soon enough. It's time to start building that 2012 contender.
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I'll agree that DM had a mild comeback, mostly driven by his draft picks raking in the minors
But most of the stuff he got rid of this year only left because their contracts were up here, and probably weren’t gonna resign with the team. When you aren’t contending, you better trade what you have if it isn’t going to be here next year. He gets zero credit for this as a good GM should do this.
And I really don’t think he’s that committed to the rebuild, so much as supplementing Gordon, Butler, Greinke, Yuni, and Soria with aging veterans and the slow trickle of his draft picks in til 2012-13. It wouldn’t surprise me to see some aging vets brought in for “competition” with the upcoming draft picks, and then the vets win the job because of their “mental toughness” and “leadership” even though the younger guys ran circles around them.
So now losing 97 games is a comeback?
What a shame….the losing mentality has infected the fans.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Betemit
Can you expand on this?
Lean on Your Skills: This is where I called upon Dayton to impress us, as he really hasn’t since 2008, with a decent scouting find or two.The performances of Betemit and Chen have been much ballyhooed as evidence of good work done by Dayton. Regarding Betemit, there’s some truth to that notion.
Why only “some truth” to Betemit? Seems like you’re dinging Moore a bit for no reason. I think we have to hand it to him for finding a scrap heap guy like Betemit that produces like this – it’s what everyone claims they want. Big production on the cheap.
Well he did stick him in AAA til June so DM didn't see this coming
He had a .765 OPS at Omaha, so this really was quite the leap to have an .889 OPS in the majors. I hope it’s not a fluke, but I’m willing to bet it is. Had Dayton signed Wilson to play 3B for the minimum to start the year in the majors, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt, but that’s not what happened.
Was he supposed to start him over Gordon?
Didn’t Betemit come up at roughly the same time as Gordon went down?
Moore gets ragged on quite a bit, and no doubt most of it warranted, but we can at least give him props when he makes a good move without trying to qualify it. He signed Betemit for cheap, who went on to have an awesome season. It was a great signing by Moore.
Gordon didn't start the season on the big league team
He then played April 17 to May 1. He didn’t play for the big club again until July 23. I guess Callaspo had him blocked while Gordon was out. Even after Betemit came up, he only played part time.
Sure Betemit was a good signing. I’m not going to take that away. I’m just saying that no one could have realistically expected anywhere near this kind of production from him. His bat was nice, but his defense was atrocious, and he’s pretty much a DH or Jose Guillen-lite in LF.
Betemit's defense also took a huge bite out of his value
The advanced defensive metrics had Betemit’s ineptitude with glove (-12 UZR, -16 Dewan’s) costing him about half his value as a hitter. In the end, he ended up at 1.3 WAR.
maybe this is going to sound petty
but Betemit wasn’t a great find. he’s a famous ex-prospect that anyone who reads Baseball America has known about for a decade
props to moore for out bidding others for him, but he was hardly a great idea
A great find?
So Moore only gets credit if he finds a Peruvian uni-cycle rider and turns him into an All-Star? Does he need his own version of Henry Rowengartner before you tip your cap? Betemit was a tremendous find – he was a former prospect whose star has faded and most of baseball had given up on. Sounds like Carlos Pena, Jack Cust, Dan Uggla, to me; the type of player that everyone on here whines about not being able to find, and then when we get one we pick out all their warts. We’re like the fat girl with glasses that thinks she’s too hot for every guy who looks at her.
Yeah he sucks at defense, but he put together a great offensive season this year, and with a 97 loss team its ridiculous to just blow that off like its nothing. These are exactly the type of players that the Royals and really all small market teams should find.
I gave him partial credit for it
which seems fair, especially since Betemit only played a partial season and still has no long term role with the royals
The Royals website quotes Yost as saying he sees Wilson as a Utility player
Who could play SS or 2B in a pinch. Welcome the new Bloomy. At least he’ll hit better.
How can a guy who can't field 3B play utility infielder?
This makes no sense to me at all. SS and 2B are to the left of 3B on the defensive spectrum. If Betemit can’t handle 3B, how can he be a utility infielder? By this logic, wouldn’t Butler be an even better choice for utility infielder?
"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"
2b and 3b are the same on the defensive spectrum....
and nobody think betemit can be a competent fielding SS, but with his bat, he could be a competent utility guy, just going about it in a different way.
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Oct 5, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
SS should be covered fine if Aviles is healthy.
If all positions are covered, I would prefer a better bat on the bench than a all position, not hit fielder (bloomquist)
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Oct 6, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Very helpful
Thanks
"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"
However, some people are better at 3B than 2B
Like Callaspo seemed to be. The opposite is also probably true
Defense is half the game. You can't just say "yeah he sucks at defense" and completely wipe it away like that...
Betemit had a nice season, but let’s not act like this is some guy DM “discovered” that will now play a valuable role with the team. He had a nice half season of hitting, but so did Mark Teahen and about 1,000 other players in MLB history.
Killing time until time kills me
I'm not completely wiping away defense
but a player doesn’t have to be a complete in every phase of the game to be valuable. Betemit’s lack of defense does not take away from what he did at the plate this year, which was impressive for a scrap heap signing.
unfortunately, it does exactly that
lack of defense does not take away from what he did at the plate this year
It doesn’t take away everything he did at the plate this year, just about half of it.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 5, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And he isn't likely to hit anywhere near that well next year, or ever again
Based on a reasonable projection of his future hitting, his awful defense takes away almost all of his value.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Oct 5, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Even considering his terrible defense, his offense was enough to provide considerable value and provide positive WAR.
I agree, and that's what I said
It doesn’t take away everything he did at the plate this year
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 5, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dayton was throwing away 2010, the Pods and Ankiel deals look a lot better
They were likely only signed to reap some sort of prospect for, and we got an excellent relieving prospect and backup catcher, plus a possible 4/5th OFer for a couple million dollars.
Really, whose development did these two players stop? Mitch MAIER?
The only play I wish had been up here earlier was Kila, and the reason for that was a previous signing in Guillen. I won’t blame Moores decisions in 2010 on that bumbling. And I kind of like Gordon being moved to the OF since we dont have a real prospect there.
The only big question mark from 2010 was Kendall. No idea why that happened. Otherwise we essentially paid $XX Million for Collins, Blanco, and May. And then traded an extra asset in Callaspo for SOS and another pitching prospect. He didn’t block any prospects from the majors, and he didnt say anything too stupid.
It ended up being more than a "couple million"
The Royals ended up paying ~$4 million for Pods and Ankiel (counting the $1 million the Royals paid Atlanta), and the deal for Collins and Blanco also included Farnsworth (with the Royals paying about $4 million of his salary this year). I like Collins, but paying $4 million (let alone $8 million) for a relief prospect plus Blanco and May is pretty steep.
How much do the Royals spend on the international market every year?
I guess the way I’m thinking of it is the Royals are spending money on players for the roster to trade now, so that they can have cheaper, perhaps better players in the future.
This is my overly optimisitic view, and probably does not reflect reality
Also, I am not including Farns in this transaction because we are analyzing 2010 deals
I’m talking about only 2010. To start 2010, Moore already had Farns signed, so he had no choice but to try to get the best he could for him (same with Guillen).
However, with Ankiel and Pods, I am contesting that these players were signed specifically with trading them to contenders for prospects in mind.
So I guess I’m saying Moore spent $4MM to acquire Blanco, Collins, Chavez, Pimentel, and May. He threw in the $4MM he already had spent on Farns.
I included him only for completeness
Hopefully I explained what I meant though well enough
A team is almost always better off spending directly on prospects
in the draft or international signings than signing mediocre free agents in hopes of trading them at the deadline. $4 million is the going rate for a Top 10 draft pick and is the record signing bonus for an international amateur signing (Ynoa at $4.25m, the next is Sano at $3.15m). The return on deadline deals for non-elite players is pretty poor.
The thing with Farnsworth is that it is doubtful that Atlanta would have given up Collins for Ankiel — Farnsworth was the one actually having a decent season, while Ankiel had barely played due to injury.
Eh true about Farns
Although the Braves had to figure Ankiel was better than Frenchie (insert Royals joke here)
shhhh . . .
before someone gets the idea to bring them in as a platoon
$8 million for Collins and Blanco will end up being a win for the Royals
not a huge win, but they’ll come out ahead. Hell, Blanco’s performance this year b/w Atlanta and KC was worth $4.4 million
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Oct 4, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, include Chavez's affect
He has to be worth negative dollars
i blocked him out of my memory
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Oct 5, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we content if the Royals sign absolutely no one this offseason.
I’m quite certain I’d be.
Wouldn't mind signing people to minor league contracts
Or taking a chance on a starter on the cheap that looks likely to have a rebound
While I would be happy with that
I might hope for a Carl Crawford sighting even though he is getting kind of old and probably has no desire to play here.
DDJ/Aviles
Aviles/DDJ
Crawford
Butler
Kila
Moustakas
Gordon
Brayan Pena
Yuni
That doesn’t look too shabby to me. Though the defense will still be pretty bad except for LF/CF.
That would be nice
Billy has been good at defense this year. Gordon couldnt be that bad at RF. He has a good arm.
Aviles also is good if he is playing at SS.
I hope they get rid of Aviles. His defense is terrible and i'm sick of watching his erratic
arm throwing the ball clean into the stands. He’s amazingly terrible.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
And that ridiculous bat twirl he does, with the head of the bat slowing down then fast
like planet X on an elliptical orbit around the sun or something, what is with that?
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
It's totally pretencious.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
You need Hall-of-Fame credentials to do that with your bat....and Aviles
ain’t shit.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
But how do you really feel?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
I think I do.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
Bat twirls don't make a player worthy of a roster spot.
“Boy”
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
I'd be good with KC not signing any FA this off season
It’s time to play the young guys and see what we have got. Start Fields/Betemit at 3B and let Blanco/Dyson/Maier fight it out in CF. Let’s see if Lough is ready. Gordon and DDJ on the corners. Kila/Butler get DH/1B duty. Pena and May split the catching.
I could see Collins, Coleman or B. Hardy in the bullpen. Meche has looked good in pen along with Tejeda as set up. Wood should be better with a season of experience. Rotation is still scary – Hochevar pitched well under Yost’s management, Bannister has to go. Davies, Chen, SOS, Hochevar and Greinke to start out with room made for Duffy, Dwyer or Montgomery when they are ready. Rotation is only area I’d look at a FA who could be flipped midseason when minor leaguers are coming up.
By mid season, Moustakas and one of the pitchers like Duffy or Dwyer might be up.
dutton's article said Duffy and Teaford will probably be in the mix for spots next spring.
Duffy probably less so, but Teaford would make a ton of sense. ideally he might get some AAA time, but age isn’t on his side. big late bloomer.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
I like Duffy, but I don't see any reason to rush him to the majors in the Spring
He isn’t even 22 yet and has about 40 innings above A-ball. The Royals aren’t playing for anything next season, so why rush him? Not saying that you’re saying they should, but I really hope that’s just good copy for the prospects and not a serious idea.
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 4, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see any reason to believe that, aside from GMDM negativity
He’s shown no inclination to rush his players, and the coverage in the Star today (which I’m sure is guided by the Royals front office) basically said that 2011 was a throwaway year while the talent wave matures.
If he keeps his guys (mostly) out of the majors, GMDM gets to coast through next season based on promise. If he brings them up, he risks getting judged on actual results. There’s no upside for him in rushing players. I’d be very surprised if we see over amibtious promotions next year.
"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"
Yes
If he keeps his guys (mostly) out of the majors, GMDM gets to coast through next season based on promise. If he brings them up, he risks getting judged on actual results. There’s no upside for him in rushing players. I’d be very surprised if we see over amibtious promotions next year.
The hype train on our farm system has not even really left the station yet for your average Royals fan. Once BA, BP, and others come out with org rankings listing KC with the #1 farm system and fawning over our top prospects, hope will be in top gear and Moore will not be in any rush to push prospects for wins now.
The uber development of our top prospects will actually result in buying patience for Moore in my opinion.
I just look at the pitching staff...
someone is going to have to pitch, and i’m not sure they have enough bodies
moreover, if we’re really going to compete in 2012, then i think there will be a push to get some guys experience in 2011
Sound like a another Dayton Moore plan to be 20 games back by the all-star break
and fighting it out for last place by then end of the year……..yet again. What a bitch, the Royals “public park” management strategy has spread to the fans.
Now we’re happy just to have the Royals, “to go and spend an afternoon at the park”, but no one cares who wins the game, and now, they don’t expect it.
It’s just a day out at a public park.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Dayton Moore has proven now after three years, that he's no better at at this, then
Allard Baird was.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
great write-up will
i think your analysis is pretty spot on, although i do give moore full credit for betemit precisely because he was essentially free, exactly the type of thing he needs to be doing more of…i really don’t think we’ll do much of anything in free-agency; trades are much more likely IMO.
it pains me to say it but i think you shop greinke and really get this thing in overdrive for 2012 on…in the short-term this team will be horrible, but we will then (hopefully) have an embarrassment of riches from which to fill out the major-league roster…if i was feeling especially ballsy i’d consider trading butler and/or soria as well, as i think that we’ve got guys coming up that can fill those spots…you get a starting pitcher or two, an outfielder, and maybe a middle infielder to layer on top of what we already think we’ve got, and then you’re looking at a strong two-deep at most positions in the org.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Oct 4, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
He's worth more to us than to many other teams
Right now he, Betemit (whom we’ve only seen a half season of), and DeJesus (who’s coming back off an injury) are our only legitimate high-OPS hitters. Billy went out there every day, whacked the hell out of the ball, and played decent defense. We know exactly what we have in him. There are other guys in the system who will likely hit for a good OPS someday, but they are not yet proven at the major-league level and probably should spend at least half of 2011 at Omaha. Billy is the proverbial bird in the hand.
I know we’re not trying to compete in 2011 and are loading up for 2012, but we should at least try to put out some kind of decent effort in 2011 just so the whole league doesn’t keep laughing at us.
Butler is probably not the kind of player who ages well, since he’s already as fat and slow as a past-his-peak 34-year-old, and is at the far right of the defensive spectrum. He’ll keep mashing for a few years, though. I’d try to extend his contract to expire when he’s 30, stick a weight clause in there balanced by a few achievable incentives (e.g. a hundred grand for 500 PAs), and then let somebody else pay for the bad-back DH years.
"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator
The Santana trade should be a cautionary tale
The Twins got a huge haul in that trade, from a prospect standpoint, but when you look at it with the benefit of hindsight, the Twins basically turned gold into lead. Now, they had no choice, so I don’t necessarily fault them for that trade (although they seem too trade-happy in general to me), but I think it should make us think twice about trading Greinke.
See:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-bright-side-of-losing-santana/
Mets receive
Johan Santana
Twins receive
Carlos Gomez
Deolis Guerra
Kevin Mulvey
Phillip Humber
"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"
should be a cautionary tale for Zack too
considering Santana hasn’t been to the playoffs since he got traded and plays for a team in constant chaos. I also doubt Greinke fetches more than the Cliff Lee to Philadelphia or Dan Haren to Los Angeles trades.
by swing and a miss on Oct 5, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dayton Moore is not a guy who is going to fight for the fans by trying to get
Glass to spend money to bring a pennant to KC. He’s more interested in running the Royals as a business, and to put bottom-line money into the Glass family’s bank accounts, and keeping the GM job for the good of his own, and his family, for as many years as he can. It’s impossible for the Royals to win, when no one cares if they do win, and they’re all content to just collect their checks and not rock the boat.
Ned Yost, doesn’t care if they contend, Dayton Moore doesn’t care if they contend, The Glass family doesn’t care if they win, as long as they make 10 million to 20 million per year profit, and the fans in KC are rapidly become a fan base so used to losing, that they no longer care either.
Sometimes, I think I’m the only one who really cares if they contend each year, me and George Brett…..there’s two of us left.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
"Some people, if they don't already know....you can't tell'em." Yogi Berra.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
So, your saying they just don't know how then.
Where’s the progress in 3 years of Moore’s trades and drafts and cuts? We’re in EXACTLY the same position….LAST PLACE….that we were in when he got here with all his hype.
And don’t lay that prospects crap on me….I’ve been hearing that prospect farm system hope crap for 45 years.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
Dayton Moore has had three years of trades now....and we look exactly the same
as we did three years ago….last place….100 losses, bla bla bla….nothing changes, except the minor league talent they would have us pin our future hopes to, which never seems to arrive, year in and year out.
These guys are nothing more than gangsters, selling us a bag of goods that never arrives, and fleecing the general public of millions each year, and lining their own pockets.
As far as I’m concerned, they should all be arrested, and sentenced to many years of hard labor, for false advertising, and fleecing the public out of millions.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Everything I say is more credible than what you say.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
I still enjoy going to Royals games, even if they aren't the best
I think they are trying to get better and win. They are just making a lot of mistakes in who they bring in. I do not think they are doing any of the things you are suggesting.
However, if you think that the newest prospects are just the same as they’ve always been, you need to do some more research.
Ahhhh now your gettin it.
That’s been the Royals management plan year in and year out…especially since the renovation….If they can get people to come out and enjoy the fine ballpark, a place to go and take the family, a public park if you will, then it no longer matters to them if they win or not.
I still enjoy going to Royals games, even if they aren’t the best
You said it! They’re targeting people just like you. People who have given up on winning, and who still enjoy going to the park.
Thats what I’ve been trying to say. Do you think the renovations were for the die-hard win at any cost fans?
Nope…it’s to ensure high attendance from the pacifists among us. They people who are so used to losing, they no longer expect to win, but have a place to kill an afternoon with the kids.
There’s no way this town will ever see another Championship unless the ownership changes.
Mark my words.
In the meantime, go on out to the park, take the kids, enjoy all the amenities it has to offer and a great family environment.
Just don’t go if you want to be part of a pennant chase.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
And I think I just read that they plan to spend less this offseason...
undoubtedly for more average players, who will again be dumped after the allstar game to add bottome line money to the Glass family bank accounts.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
Dear Dayton
2011 doesn’t have to be a loss year. First, FA’s and this would be huge…… Sign Cliff Lee to a 4 year $100 million dollar deal. It may sound crazy, but he could be the type of guy that would play in KC and $25 M a year is enough money to make it happen. We will only have 2011 of an increased payroll, because of our next steps. Trade Soria to the Yankees for CF Brett Gardner, P Ivan Nova and Prospect RHP Thomas Kahnle. Then send DeJesus to the Padres for C Nick Hundley, Relief Pitcher Ernesto Frieri and SS Prospect Drew Cumberland.
2011
CF Gardner
2B Avilies
1B Butler
DH Kila
3B Fields/ Moustakas at AS Break
SS Betancourt
LF Gordon
C Hundley
RF Maier
Bench: Getz, Giavotella, B Pena, J. Miller
- Lee
- Greinke
- Hoechever
- Nova
- Teaford
Tejada
Wood
Texiera
Coleman
Meche
Frieri
Collins
2011 Draft
- OF George Springer- U Conn
No Belt?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Hysterical.
What have you seen at any juncture, during the past 30 years, to suggest that any of that would be possible. And who would our closer be then?
"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." ~Vince Lombardi~
Besides, that leaves the worst fielding player in the history of the Royals on the team still.
Aviles.
"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." ~Vince Lombardi~
Why in the world
Are YOU and Dayton so worried about keeping Soria?? Why do you need one of the better closers in the game when you lose 90+ games. It is like putting new brakes on a car without an engine in it!
Have you happened to watch any of the playoffs?? If so, did you notice that every playoff team has atleast two ace type starters?
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