Gil Meche Calls Cliff Lee After His Game One Victory
Gil: "Cliff... this is Gil... I do terribly hope this isn't a bad time-"
Cliff: "Of course not, why would that be the case?"
Gil: "You know quite well why it would be, you old sod! In any case, I know that the text mesage... or are they called Facebooks? I don't know. Nevertheless, I know that messages of that type have become de rigueur for exchanges such as this, but for the post-season, I rather felt that that was not a gesture that measured up to the occasion."
Cliff: "Ah yes, I see what you mean. Brings to mind an old roommate I had in grammar school, the stumblebum ended up spending his gap year touring extensively... throughout the Channel Islands."
Gil: "Imagine that. Let me guess, was he Welsh?"
Cliff: "If I said he was from the West Midlands would you ask for a proportional credit?"
Gil: "Lest I forget why I called... I did think that you were superb today. I didn't think that the Rays had any chance of resolving the quandary you would set before them and that certainly proved true. It recalled for me a well-wrought, or perhaps a too crude if you catch my drift, ironic dialogue. Perhaps... oh, something done by Galileo. It wasn't subtle, but subtly was not what was called for."
Cliff: "That's very kind, though we both know Galileo's pen, his gift for delicacy has been lost for those of us unfortunate enough to be born after Brecht."
Gil: "Well, regarding that trouble, of course much more could be said."
Cliff: "Quite true."
Gil: "I've been meaning to ask you. Have you kept much in touch with your former compatriots in the Evergreen State?"
Cliff: "Only as much as May stays in stationary with April."
Gil: "That surprises me to hear you speak of them so cooly."
Cliff: "Wasn't it Housman who said, 'anyone who feels they have loved more than once has never truly loved at all'?"
Gil: "Sounds right, but I think that might be Auden... but I think I follow."
Cliff: "Yes, sometimes I wonder -" (voice catches)
Gil: "You needn't finish... the truest part of the Old Testament for me remains the profound sense that Man's fate, all to often, is a kind of profound estrangement. A wandering in search of home."
Cliff: "Quite. And I'm sure that many will read my behavior as being primarily fiduciary, but a major heuristic guiding my decision this winter will be a search, not for riches, but for home."
Gil: "If only Arkansas had a team."
Cliff:"That will be for the issue of my son, or maybe his son, to enjoy."
Gil: "To the future! (pause) Christ, I sound like Voltaire, or worse, when saying that!"
Cliff: "I can only drink from that vintage by way of Isaiah Berlin, but maybe that hasn't always served me well."
Gil: "Clifton Phifer Lee wouldn't be Clifton Phifer Lee without that touch of the choleric."
Cliff: "I think you mean phlegmatic. But in any case, I must be going. I've gotten on this kick... actually Michael Young and Ron Washington hooked me on this. Each evening, when I've retired to my bedchamber and placed the stocking cap on my head, I listen to a bit of Wagner, while looking over Tennyson's better lines. A bit cringe-worthy, but I do feel we need more of the heroic in our lives, especially for those of us still out there slaying dragons."
Gil: "You bastard."
Cliff: "I didn't mean it like that, old boy."
Gil: "I know... but damn this. Damn... me."
(Hangs up)
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Stop the clocks, cut off the telephone,
prevent Jose Canseco from calling too with a juicy pro bono.
by 2X2L on Oct 7, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
haha
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
She Said That
More than once.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
oops, sorry, I thought you typed "old"
and “but unpleasant”
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
She'd never say that to me
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 8, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel
10 lbs. dumber after reading the collective insights of those two sophisticates.
same ass before you where ever born
Thanks, Will. Glad you got the transcript. I’m overwhelmed. Wish I could track down the earlier links to their exchanges, but I can’t get the search right. Gonna wait to re-tweet this until later in the day…
Beyond awesome
my two cents indicate this type of intellectual whimsy reflects the better angels of the internet, and a paradise suggested by Weezer in the song “Islands in the Sun”.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Oct 7, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Nighthawk:
excellent comment. And a nice, albeit oblique, Lincoln reference.
"Shot by my own men."
thanks stonewall...
IT WOULD TAKE A TEAM OF RIVALS four score and seven years to fully appreciate the yadda yadda yadda……this site and insidery insider humor kick much ass, don’t they?
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Oct 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My English is not good enough nor am I familiar with the background of these 2 pitchers to understand the joke, someone please explain?
by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
who enjoy classic literature, poetry, and philosophy
Yamfun, here’s your chance to Wikipedia all of the names referenced and in 30 minutes you will be more educated in said classics than most.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They're speaking like old-fashioned, snobbish British gentlement. Baseball players sound nothing like this. That's the humor.
out of curioisity
Where are you from, and why do you like the Royals?
Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!
"If only Arkansas had a team."
haha
if only…
for when I'm too lazy to come here, http://twitter.com/AtTheWall
Topeka Wannabe Hippies
Called me “beatnik” for a while. I was more of a proto-punk, but no one knew what that was in 1971. They just knew I wasn’t really like them.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wikipedia sees it this way:
The earliest form of punk rock, named protopunk in retrospect, started as a garage rock revival in the northeastern United States in the late 1960s.8 The first ongoing music scene that was assigned the punk label appeared in New York City between 1974 and 1976.9 At about the same time or shortly afterward, a punk scene developed in London.10 Soon after, Los Angeles became home to the third major punk scene.11 These three cities formed the backbone of the burgeoning movement, but there were also other scenes in a number of cities such as Brisbane and Boston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture
But the exact time/location of the beginning of “punk” is of course up for debate.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Most Actual
Ground-up movements, it was entirely disorganized. It was originally just like-minded individuals who were disillusioned/disgusted with the hippie ethos and corporate takeover of popular music. The NYC scene and CBGB’s were genuine, and I don’t think you can talk punk without Iggy Pop in the discussion, but the whole London thing was contrived. As usual, by the time the general public was aware of it, it was pretty much over.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 7, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I was blissfully unaware of all the cool music as I grew up in the sticks....
but I loves me some Iggy Pop and the Stooges. In my youth, I was into David Lee Roth, who, much to my surprise, I later realized was pretty much just playing a safer and more commercially crass version of Iggy Pop for horny suburban teens. I even like a lot of Iggy’s solo work in the 70s and 80’s…..The Idiot, Lust for Life, and New Values all have some great tracks on them. If any of you youngins out there are into the "new’ punk, do yourself a favor and check out the Stooges, the Damned, NY Dolls, Radio Birdman, Dead Boys, Gang of Four, Birthday Party, Black Flag, Minor Threat, the Clash, etc….there is some damn good stuff out there that is a little more raw and lacks the sweetness of stuff like Green Day or other relatively contemporary stuff out there today…which is a good thing for some folks. According to leading scientists, the angrier you are, the more you enjoy vaguely political barking vocals, fuzzed out power chords, and shrieking noise masquerading as music.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Oct 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh
All of a sudden reading Bob Dutton is less annoying now.
"This guy here is DEAD!"
"Cross him OFF then!"
by Casper01 on Oct 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
this was akin to a colorful piece of abstract art:
Either you like it or you don’t.
I say Huzzah to Will for showing his hind quarters abit. God knows I’ve done it on this sight before, and paid a High Price for it…
Carpe Diem and all that my good man!
"Shot by my own men."
by the way,
Evelyn Waugh was a man. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
"Shot by my own men."
"Only God can judge you"
-LeBron James (via Chuck Klosterman)
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If you misspell it, then anyone can
Juge You
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 7, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I friggin love this
The Mech-Lee conversation, not the naked boy above.
Who wrote it? Who, I demand to know!
Place witty signature here.
i think what i'm trying to figure out
and forgive me, since i am an accountant and therefore very literal and mostly unable to think in the abstract, but WHY exactly are Cliff and Gil having a conversation? at one point i thought that maybe the suggestion was that Gil was trying to entice Cliff to come to the Royals? Is the suggestion that each could have suffered the other’s fate but by chance, Lee pitches in the playoffs while Meche kicks around as a hurt reliever?
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Oct 7, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
i guess i don't get it, then
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Will, you really should link to the first of these posts w/ the eyebrow pictures…
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 7, 2010 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thanks
wasted a bunch of time looking for it earlier today
by Matt Klaassen on Oct 8, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Wagner and Tennyson
are not rightly fit for simultaneous consumption. That way madness lay.
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. -- Albert Einstein
by The Ol' Perfesser on Oct 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Balderdash!
At was put forth above by the eloquent Clifford Lee, we need more of the heroic in our lives.
Place witty signature here.
I believe it was Calvin who said
some of us are f**cked from the get-go.
"Shot by my own men."
Pickering?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Oct 7, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Certainly he means
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” LaLoosh…
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. -- Albert Einstein
by The Ol' Perfesser on Oct 8, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Dennis Cork, who coached 1b on my Legion team used to say....
fuck around, fuck around, pretty soon you’re not around….apt words for taking a sensible lead…..and apt words for taking life with a modicum of seriousness.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Oct 7, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Will Gil & Cliff be making any...
guest appearences @ the Renaissance Festival….maybe a joust to the death…
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Oct 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions





















