Royals slightly overpay for Adam Dunn...

by PhattStairs on Nov 17, 2010 2:01 PM EST

Please discuss why this should not at least be considered. This is the one true shot at Balboni's record. Look, if Moore was willing to pay Guillen 36 million, why not give Dunn a 2 or 3 year deal, if anything, just to hit bombs from the DH spot? Wouldn't this fall under the category of the Royals generically trying to "win" by getting a guy that people will buy tickets to see late in the season as he goes for his 40th HR?

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I'm a big Dunn fan, but

unless something happens to unearth the logjam at 1B/DH (Butler, Ka’aihue, Hosmer), it doesn’t make sense to go after Dunn. Note I’m assuming moving him back to the OF is out of the question, considering Moore’s stance on OF defense being vital at the K.

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by loyal2sdad on Nov 17, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions

Moore’s stance on OF defense being vital at the K.

ha! good one!

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by buddyball on Nov 17, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

I like Dunn too, BUT

if we aren’t competing what’s the point? DM is obviously trying to save money right now, with the goal hopefully being to deploy the saved money down the line so we can bring in a true superstar or 2 when it matters.

by AxDxMx on Nov 17, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions

Yes

Let’s see what we have in Kila, who could very well be a younger, cheaper Dunn.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions

I'll hope for Dunn,

but I’m afraid he’s Carlos Pena with less power.

.220 BA, .320 OBP, 25-30 homers max.

by AxDxMx on Nov 17, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

Would that be so bad?

And Carlos Pena hasn’t posted an OBA as low as .320 since his rookie season. Even this year, when he was under the Mendoza Line, he posted a .325.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 17, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, I'd be happy with that

Carlos Pena with 35 fewer points of SLG would be a line of about:

.235/.355/.450

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by Scott McKinney on Nov 17, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions

FWIW, CHONE's last update (August) had this line for Kila

.255/.364/.440

I’d be even happier with that.

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by Scott McKinney on Nov 17, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions

i'll be shocked if he has a batting average that high....

which will bring down his OBP and take him from useful to not useful

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 17, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions

I guess it depends on how low the BA is and how many walks he draws

If he pulls off something like Carlos Pena and manages a BA/OBP of .230/.350, I think he’d be more than useful.

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by Scott McKinney on Nov 17, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

i dont think he has pena power....

so i think pitchers will be less likely to be careful with him.

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 17, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions

But he unquestionably

Has a great eye, which can make up for lack of power threat. Daric Barton, for example (and Kila has more power than Barton).

by kcbottom9th on Nov 18, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions

I guess the point is

We don’t know, so let’s find out.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 18, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions

If kila puts up the same line as Barton....

he’ll be an pretty good DH. I dont see 273 in Kilas future though.

And Barton is a very valuable player b/c he provides value on defense…no chance in hell kila does that.

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 19, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions

If he has a BA of .230

I wonder how long he would last, despite the above average OBP

Unless I'm wrong...

by Top Ramen on Nov 18, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions

at least 478 ABs

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2231&position=1B

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 19, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Ever-optimistic Bill James Projection

For Kila in 2011

.254/.375/.451

Sign me up. 23 2B, 22 HR, 89:87 BB:K.

by Tito42 on Nov 17, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions

Kila Ka'aihue and Eric Hosmer are the reasons why

and there’s no doubt Dunn would be better in the short term. but Kila and Hosmer are a hell of a lot cheaper and Hosmer has a chance to be a just as good, if not better by the time that Dunn contract is getting close to the end.

if Dunn could play the outfield with any sense of competence, it’d be another thing. but if that were the case, he’d also be getting 15 MM plus pretty easily.

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by doublestix on Nov 17, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions

Let's give him a 1 year deal worth $14M

Backload it and don’t assume any of it at the deadline. Then, if it doesn’t trade, we take the Type A next year. :)

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by 306008 on Nov 18, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions

he's going to get about $14 million/yr over 3-5 years....

i bet we’d have to pay him $20 million this year at least to get him in on a 1 year deal

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 19, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions

All of the above

plus everything that was said the last three offseasons when his name was mentioned (old player skills, his age, lack of position, production unlikely to match salary, etc.).

by Gopherballs on Nov 17, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions