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Royals Top 60 Prospects: #19-13

With a pretty quiet week, I was able to crank out another set of rankings.  The Royals have a highly regarded set of left-handed pitching.  This installment is the "revenge of the right-handers".  Ventura, Yambati, Jeffress and Melville--coupled with Jason Adam, Aaron Crow, and now Jake Odorizzi give the Royals a lot of potential (and velocity) from the right side---they just lack the consistency and advancement that the lefty crew has shown. 

Happy New Year--hope it brings good things for all.  Bring on 2011! (or as it's known to Royals fans: 2012 Eve)

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19. Yordano Ventura--RHP--DOB:6/3/91

 

Year Age Tm Lev Aff ERA G GS IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2009 18 Royals FRk KCR 2.78 10 5 22.2 1.456 11.1 0.0 2.0 4.4 2.20
2010 19 2 Teams Rk-FRk KCR 3.08 17 9 64.1 1.181 8.1 0.4 2.5 9.9 3.94
2010 19 Royals FRk KCR 2.31 3 3 11.2 0.857 6.9 0.0 0.8 10.0 13.00
2010 19 Royals Rk KCR 3.25 14 6 52.2 1.253 8.4 0.5 2.9 9.9 3.41
2 Seasons 3.00 27 14 87.0 1.253 8.9 0.3 2.4 8.5 3.57
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

 

Ventura is a young Dominican that made a big impact in 2010.  The Royals signed him as a international free agent and he wasn't yet throwing 90 MPH but he has seen his velocity jump and so has his status as a prospect.  He put up good numbers in a short stint with the Royals' Dominican team and then also pitched well for the rookie Arizona League team.  Baseball America ranked him as the #2 prospects in the Arizona League.  Ventura has a mid-90s fastball--that was clocked at times last summer at 99MPH--and a good curve.  He needs to work on his changeup  He is not a big guy--stands around 5' 11"--but he's already gotten bigger since the Royals signed him and he might continue to grow a little bit.  He could also continue to add velocity.  The size concern and the need to work on a changeup combine to make me wonder if he might have to eventually move to the bullpen--but I'm sure he will be given every opportunity to start.  It will be interesting to see if the Royals send Ventura back to short-season (perhaps Idaho Falls) or if they try to challenge him with some innings at Kane County in 2011.

18. Robinson Yambati--RHP--DOB:1/15/91

Year Age Tm Lev Aff ERA G GS IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2008 17 Royals FRk KCR 3.09 14 8 55.1 1.175 8.0 0.0 2.6 6.5 2.50
2009 18 2 Teams Rk-FRk KCR 5.15 17 6 50.2 1.579 10.1 0.7 4.1 6.0 1.48
2009 18 Royals FRk KCR 0.77 5 5 23.1 1.071 6.2 0.4 3.5 6.2 1.78
2009 18 Royals Rk KCR 8.89 12 1 27.1 2.012 13.5 1.0 4.6 5.9 1.29
2010 19 Royals Rk KCR 2.71 14 6 66.1 1.161 8.8 0.0 1.6 8.7 5.33
3 Seasons 3.55 45 20 172.1 1.288 8.9 0.2 2.7 7.2 2.71
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

Robinson Yambati joined Ventura in the "young Dominican Royals breakout" club.  Yambati was rated the #3 prospect in the Arizona League by Baseball America.  Yambati also can run it up to the upper 90's with his 4 seam fastball.  Keith Law reported he had very good movement on his 2 seam fastball.  Yambati also throws a slider.  I haven't heard any reports about his changeup.  In the Arizona League last summer, he got a good amount of K's while having a minuscule walk rate.  He also generated a lot of ground balls (63% according to firstinning.com).  Keith Law labeled him a future reliever--not exactly sure why--I hope he gets every opportunity to remain a starter.  Yambati is a tall (6'4"), skinny kid who should be able to handle the innings.  You could flip Ventura and Yambati in the rankings--they are really close.  But I like Yambati's size/projection a little bit better.  Like Ventura, he could go to short-season of Kane County in 2011.

 

17. Tim Melville--RHP--DOB:10/9/89

Year Age Tm Lev Aff ERA G GS IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2009 19 Burlington A KCR 3.79 21 21 97.1 1.356 8.2 0.9 4.0 8.9 2.23
2010 20 2 Teams A+-Rk KCR 4.92 24 24 117.0 1.376 8.1 0.8 4.3 7.4 1.71
2010 20 Royals Rk KCR 3.86 2 2 4.2 1.286 7.7 0.0 3.9 11.6 3.00
2010 20 Wilmington A+ KCR 4.97 22 22 112.1 1.380 8.1 0.8 4.3 7.2 1.67
2 Seasons 4.41 45 45 214.1 1.367 8.1 0.8 4.2 8.1 1.94
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

 

Melville was given a record signing bonus after the Royals took him in the 4th Round of the 2008 draft.  He had entered his senior season as Baseball America's #1 rated HS player (just like Bubba Starling) but had a tough senior season.  He was decent in 2009 but 2010 started off as a disaster.  He was one of the few Royals' prospects to disappoint last year.  He pitched a little better as the season went on but his K rate continued to be low and he continued to give up way too many walks.  He ended with a 4.56 FIP which looks even worse when you consider he played half his games at Wilmington.  However, at Instructional League during September/October, the Royals sped up his delivery which apparently turned Melville into a new pitcher.  He was called the most improved player in camp by Scott Sharp.  The proof will be what he pitches like in 2011.  When he's going good, Melville got a low to mid 90s fastball with good movement and an above average curveball.  He needs to up the K rate and reduce the walks.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to Wilmington to try and build some confidence in 2011.

16. Jeremy Jeffress--RHP--DOB:9/21/87

Year Age Tm Lev Aff ERA G GS IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2006 18 Brewers Rk MIL 5.88 13 4 33.2 1.634 8.0 0.0 6.7 9.9 1.48
2007 19 West Virginia A MIL 3.13 18 18 86.1 1.228 6.5 0.8 4.6 9.9 2.16
2008 20 2 Teams A+-AA MIL 4.31 19 18 94.0 1.426 7.9 0.7 5.0 11.0 2.21
2008 20 Brevard County A+ MIL 4.08 15 14 79.1 1.336 7.4 0.6 4.7 11.6 2.49
2008 20 Huntsville AA MIL 5.52 4 4 14.2 1.909 10.4 1.2 6.8 8.0 1.18
2009 21 2 Teams A+-AA MIL 4.62 14 13 60.1 1.608 6.3 0.4 8.2 10.4 1.27
2009 21 Brevard County A+ MIL 2.18 6 5 33.0 1.152 4.4 0.5 6.0 9.8 1.64
2009 21 Huntsville AA MIL 7.57 8 8 27.1 2.159 8.6 0.3 10.9 11.2 1.03
2010 22 3 Teams AA-A+-A MIL 2.23 24 0 32.1 0.928 5.0 0.0 3.3 12.0 3.58
2010 22 Wisconsin A MIL 0.00 5 0 8.0 0.375 0.0 0.0 3.4 15.8 4.67
2010 22 Brevard County A+ MIL 5.40 8 0 10.0 1.700 9.0 0.0 6.3 12.6 2.00
2010 22 Huntsville AA MIL 1.26 11 0 14.1 0.698 5.0 0.0 1.3 9.4 7.50
5 Seasons 3.99 88 53 306.2 1.376 6.9 0.5 5.5 10.6 1.91
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

 

Jeffress, as I'm sure you are aware, came over in the Greinke deal.  Most everyone knows two things about Jeffress: 1. he throws hard and 2. he like pot.  Jeffress was a 1st Round pick in 2006 out of HS.  He's got a legitimate 100 MPH fastball and a very good curveball.  He also generates a ton of ground balls--which is a big plus.  Of course, the question has been and will be control.  Jeffress also pitched 10 IP with the big league Milwaukee club last year allowing 8 hits with 8 K and 6 BB.  His control looked a little better during the year but he then pitched in the Arizona Fall League.  There he pitched 11 2/3 IP with 9 hits, 8 runs (4 earned) 12 BB and 14K.  Jeffress had been a starter up until last year when the Brewers moved him to the pen.  I'm still a little curious what he can do in a starters role but it sounds like the Royals will keep him as a reliever.  It's hard for me to rank any reliever very high on the rankings.  Jeffress could certainly be a top notch closer if he ever figures it out.   He will probably start 2011 at Omaha but he could get the call the big leagues soon if he shows any hint that he has figured out how to control his stuff. 

15: Tim Collins--LHP--DOB:8/21/89

Year Age Tm Lev Aff ERA G GS IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2007 17 Blue Jays Rk TOR 4.50 7 0 6.0 1.333 9.0 0.0 3.0 10.5 3.50
2008 18 Lansing A TOR 1.58 39 0 68.1 0.995 4.7 0.4 4.2 12.9 3.06
2009 19 2 Teams A+-AA TOR 2.91 49 0 77.1 1.216 6.9 0.3 4.1 13.5 3.31
2009 19 Dunedin A+ TOR 2.37 40 0 64.2 1.160 6.5 0.3 3.9 13.8 3.54
2009 19 New Hampshire AA TOR 5.68 9 0 12.2 1.500 8.5 0.7 5.0 12.1 2.43
2010 20 3 Teams AA-AAA TOR,KCR,ATL 2.02 56 0 71.1 0.939 5.0 0.6 3.4 13.6 4.00
2010 20 Mississippi AA ATL 1.12 6 0 8.0 0.875 4.5 1.1 3.4 15.8 4.67
2010 20 New Hampshire AA TOR 2.51 35 0 43.0 1.000 5.7 0.8 3.3 15.3 4.56
2010 20 Omaha AAA KCR 1.33 15 0 20.1 0.836 4.0 0.0 3.5 9.3 2.63
4 Seasons 2.26 151 0 223.0 1.063 5.7 0.4 3.9 13.3 3.43
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

Collins went undrafted out of HS but signed a free agent deal with the Blue Jays.  He was really successful in HS but nobody gave a 5' 7" (being generous) pitcher a chance.  However, since signing, he has been dominant as a lefty reliever.  As you can see, he has averaged 13.3 strikeouts every 9/IP while only allowing 5.7 hits every 9/IP.  He was traded twice in 2010--first in the Yunel Escobar deal to Atlanta and then from Atlanta to us in the Ankiel/Farnsworth deal.  He has succeeded with a great fastball/curveball combo.  From what I can tell, he also hasn't shown a big lefty/righty split.  If you are looking to nitpick, his K rate dropped at AAA--perhaps a signal that more advanced hitters aren't as fooled by his stuff.  But his FIP was still 2.31 and his hit rate also dropped.  Collins is about as unique a prospect as there (how many undrafted FA out of HS are there on ML rosters?  How many players are under 5' 7"?  How many relief prospects could be ready for the big leagues at age 21?).  He will compete for a bullpen spot in Spring Training.

14. David Lough--OF--DOB:1/20/86

Year Age Tm Lev Aff G PA AB SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2007 21 Burlington Rk KCR 24 92 86 6 1 4 13 .337 .380 .477 .857
2008 22 Burlington A KCR 126 543 488 12 11 35 70 .268 .329 .455 .784
2009 23 2 Teams AA-A+ KCR 126 503 458 19 8 24 64 .325 .370 .496 .866
2009 23 Wilmington A+ KCR 65 250 222 6 4 12 34 .320 .370 .473 .843
2009 23 Northwest Arkansas AA KCR 61 253 236 13 4 12 30 .331 .371 .517 .887
2010 24 Omaha AAA KCR 120 531 460 14 5 40 72 .280 .346 .437 .783
4 Seasons 396 1669 1492 51 25 103 219 .294 .350 .463 .813
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

 

David Lough is the Royals' forgotten prospect.  He played Division II ball and was drafted in the 11th Round of the 2007 draft.  A year ago, he was pretty well regarded after putting up very good numbers at A+ and AA.  Lough had a brutal April to start 2010. Improved some in May and June---showing power but also not taking many walks.  Then in July and August, out of the blue, he went from walking 3-4% of the time to walking about 13-14% of the time.  It may have been just a fluke thing but if he can sustain part of that increase going forward, then he is a player who may not do anything great but has no holes either.  Lough can play all three OF positions.  He hasn't gotten as much opportunity to play CF because the Royals have preferred more prototypical CF types.  I'm not sure what his future with the Royals is.  He's certainly not flashy but he could be a solid player--with average offense and above average defense in LF.  He probably could use some more time in AAA while he waits to see if a spot opens up in the Royals outfield in 2011.  Although I have this feeling like the Royals will throw Lough into some deal and we'll watch him put up 2-3 WAR a year for the league minimum for someone else.

13. Johnny Giavotella--DOB:7/10/87

Year Age Tm Lev Aff G PA AB SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2008 20 Burlington A KCR 68 310 278 10 7 25 34 .299 .355 .421 .776
2009 21 Wilmington A+ KCR 133 561 476 26 9 66 54 .258 .351 .380 .731
2010 22 Northwest Arkansas AA KCR 134 597 522 13 7 61 67 .322 .395 .460 .855
3 Seasons 335 1468 1276 49 23 152 155 .293 .370 .422 .791
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/28/2010.

I'm sure Johnny Giavotella was excited when the Royals picked up Tim Collins--Johnny G. won't look short in the team picture if he stands next to Collins.  Giavotella is only 5' 8" and has constantly overachieved from what people said he could do.  Giavotella seemed like the anti-Dayton pick when the Royals took him in the 2nd Round of the 2008 draft out of the U. of New Orleans.  Giavotella wasn't toolsy but perhaps being scrappy and gritty helped him out.   Giavotella's bat has always been his calling card.  He walks about as much as he strikes out and has a compact stroke that produces a ton of line drives and surprising power.  Last year he was up and down at AA until the 2nd half of the year--with an OPS near 1.000 after the All-Star break.  He continued to hit in the Arizona Fall League with a 950 OPS.  The question has always been his defense at 2B.  I heard he improved on D in 2010 and Giavotella keeps working to get better on defense.  Giavotella's future is complicated by the impending move of Christian Colon to 2B.  Both players could be useful but we'll have to see how the Royals play this.  Giavotella will be the 2B at Omaha in 2011.

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Great movie

hopefully Ventura doesn’t burn out, quit baseball, and move to New York

Overgay is Destiny

by DCRoyals on Dec 31, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Like me!

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by Scott McKinney on Dec 31, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I never get too excited about the young DR guys until they move up the ladder.

They are the longest of long shots due to health – see Kelvin Herrera or Arguelles, or failure to adapt. I would expect Ventura and Yambati to stay in Ex. ST until the weather heats up and they can go to Kane County in June. KC has lots of starters from Burlington, NC or Idaho Falls who can anchor the rotation until the summer.

I could see the Kane Country rotation open the season with C. Simmons, Hayenga, Avinazar, Mariot, Billo, Santiago, Cantrell, Alexander, or Adam. I’d like to see Adam stay in Ex. ST. unless his stuff is so good that they want to hold him back with Ventura and Yambati.

by daveyork on Dec 31, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Collins -

Any idea how he gets so many Ks? Is his delivery unique? I can’t imagine he throws particularly hard so that’s why I’m curious.

GMDM traded away Saito only to get a better version for Ankiel/Farns. Who knew? I think that’s one example of good GM-ing.

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by CollininCalifornia on Dec 31, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

forgot to post his velocity in the report, sorry

Actually, Collins is some kind of freak of nature and does have good velocity. Collins has a low to mid 90s fastball and a very good curve. I would also guess his height means the ball is coming at hitters from a place they are not used to have it coming from.

by nwroyal on Dec 31, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

The worry has to be

That the “gimmick” of being so short will be found out pretty quickly in the Major Leagues. Your average young AA baller might be lost, but a seasoned ML hitter will be able to adjust (as well as having video before hand etc which your minor leaguer may not).

I thought it was quite telling that the moment he saw old timers and retreads in AAA, his K rate plummetted. Maybe just SSS, but I bet it’s deeper than that.

by kcbottom9th on Dec 31, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a concern of mine

but he also didn’t give up a HR at AAA and his FIP was still 2.70—so it wasn’t like he was getting hammered. Perhaps he will get in some time in spring training and we will get some clues as to how big league hitters handle his stuff.

by nwroyal on Dec 31, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He's got a high leg kick deceptive delivery but also has a sick curveball

while throwing in the low 90s. He would be overexposed in the rotation but in the pen his stuff works great. Also has a change up which is at least average.

Video

Checkout Royals minor league notes at www.14for77.blogspot.com

by kcscoliny on Dec 31, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

His stuff alone will get him a bullpen slot somewhere

A mid 90’s fastball and a nearly 12-6 curve from a lefty? Yeah he has a definite major league career. At this point the only issue is if he can be a closer – which is fine, considering we don’t need him to be one.

by moregritplease on Dec 31, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Same could be said for Soria - mediocre velocity

but he gets it done with movement, control, and changing speeds

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 1, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Collins

is a LH Tom Gordon.

"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009

"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876

by loyal2sdad on Dec 31, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

= Barry Zito

And I mean that in a good way, not a “franchise crippling contract” kinda way.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 3, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

He hasn’t gotten as much opportunity to play CF because the Royals have preferred more prototypical CF types.

so you’re saying he’s white

by Freneau on Dec 31, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly

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by kcscoliny on Dec 31, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

LOBster Is Crustacean.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't tell with all that wind his bat was blowin

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by kcscoliny on Dec 31, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

His Bat Blows

Period.!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A Greg Schaum appearance!

NYRoyal/NWRoyal…..confusing.

by DaytonSucks on Dec 31, 2010 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That's how I pronounce it

I prefer “New York Royal” over “Nye-Royal” The exclamation point is optional.

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by Scott McKinney on Jan 1, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

also, i thought it was “INN WHY” Royal

batter nine you sucky

by marbotty on Jan 3, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

and I've been saying "Nire Oil" this whole time

not really

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 3, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I Think There

Was an NYCRoyal, too.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

There was

But I killed him and absorbed his energy. And I think it was nycroyal.

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by Scott McKinney on Jan 1, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Crap

This whole time I thought NYRoyal was doing the prospect rankings.

I’m hoping Melville breaks out this year. We have to have trade chips for Willy Taveras.

by DaytonSucks on Dec 31, 2010 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Taveras Will Just

Materialize out of the fountains one fine day.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Johnny G had a good year with the stick. Do you have home / road splits for him? Really interested to see how much of that is real when he starts at AAA. I bet he was getting a ton of good pitches to hit too.

I guess Lough is probably ranked about right, but I don’t expect much out of him. If he starts next year back in AAA then that’s a 25 year old AAA tweener OF and I think we DFA’d a few of those last year. He’d might be a really useful 4th OF, but he probably needs ML ABs to develop. I don’t think that AAA guys ever make a good 4th OF right away.

by sfeldkamp on Dec 31, 2010 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Lough is much better than the rest.

Also his development curve was a tad behind some because he was a multisport athlete.

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by kcscoliny on Dec 31, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He Needs To

Get his OPS back up to be a truly useful COF; CF is another matter. If he can play average D in CF with an upper 7’s OPS, I’d take that.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

as a fan of the team that employed David DeJesus for the last 10 years...

i am surprised you would say this.

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by doublestix on Jan 1, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Just Saying What

I think, not what this organization will do.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Giavotella

788 OPS on the road
921 OPS at home

I would add that he was so hot at the end of the year, he was hitting everywhere and everything

by nwroyal on Dec 31, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullpen

Would seem to be filled from within for the forseeable future. Colman, Jeffries, Collins, Hardy, Crow? Lots of live arms. Certainly would make a Soria trade more palaptable.

I keep seeing a lineup of Montero, Moose, Butler, Hosmer, Myers, and Colon and thinking finally a legit ML lineup.

by DaytonSucks on Dec 31, 2010 5:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

With plus defense up the middle possibly

with Escobar, Colon, Cain and Salvador Perez

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by kcscoliny on Dec 31, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Wood would be in the mix although he debuted last year

I could see a guy like Baumann or Sisk slide into the pen too. Bullpen guys are always easier to find than rotation types. I could see Sample moving to the pen by 2011 or 2012 also.

The time to move Soria will be later in the year when KC has a better feel for how their young pitchers are doing. The Yankees or other contender will always need a closer. Soria is money and has the great contract. If age catches up with Rivera this year, then Montero and package will still be available.

Jeffress or Crow could be closer material or even Tejada. Collins and Coleman will be in the KC bullpen by midseason and do well.

by daveyork on Dec 31, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I Think The

Classic fireman could make a return. A guy who can keep you in the game after the starter doesn’t get out of the 5th or 6th and can throw 100+ innings in a season may be the new market inefficiency.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I Have A

Pretty effective Ryan filter. I hadn’t noticed this.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 1, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

A fireman used like Quiz was used could easily pitch 120-140 innings per season

Quiz had had five seasons in his peak years where he threw that many innings. That’s why Quiz managed two seasons with a WAR over 3. Used as he currently is, Soria is only going to occasionally have a WAR over 2.

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by Scott McKinney on Jan 1, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Thinking More

Of a guy like Hiram, who seems to go 2-3 good innings in almost every start. Not pitchers to finish the game, but guys who can at least eat the 6th and 7tn, and sometimes the 8th. Modern bullpens seem to be composed of one inning guys for the most part.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 1, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see the Royals best reliever pitch 2-3 innings fairly frequently.

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by Scott McKinney on Jan 1, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell, I'm just hoping our best pitchers throw 2-3 innings frequently.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Jan 2, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Love the prospect lists

Nice analysis. Still can’t help but think DM screws it up somehow.

by DaytonSucks on Dec 31, 2010 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's The Kicked

Puppy Syndrome.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 31, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

NYRoyal...

I think we need an update to the article you wrote 2 years ago about DMs “obsession with former Braves”. A lot has happened since then!

I would be curious to see the percentage of former Atlanta organization players signed by Moore. I’m thinking it has to be close to 50%….

I bet the next GMs highest percentage of signing another teams players is only around 5-10% at most.

Seriously, does anyone else see this as astoundingly weird, almost OCD behavior as a good thing? Maybe one day, the Braves will run out of crap for us to have to deal with.

by DaytonSucks on Jan 1, 2011 4:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

OT

what ever happened to Chris Disco Hayes? that dude still in the system or he gone?

Do these effectively hide my thunder?

by splitty on Jan 2, 2011 4:38 AM EST reply actions  

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