Pictures, Videos and Comments from Spring Training 3/15b
by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Mar 16, 2010 2:02 AM EDT
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Not too much tonight since the game was on TV
Notes:
- Greinke does long toss before the game.
- The White Sox looked lost on the field.
- Dayton is one short man
Pregame warmups
Greinke throwing long toss
Maybe a winner for most obscure Royal's jersey
Dayton didn't seem too mad about the ninjas I sent.
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how do you know that fan wasn’t really Tug Hulett?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Jeff is a giant
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong Response
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I must be insane
I DVRed the game, and watched it all starting at 10:45 pm after getting home from bowling league last night. Suffice to say, it’s been a long winter.
Observations:
Jarrod Dyson is proof of some progress in the minors. Bear with me as I make this point. Dyson appears to potentially be Joey Gathright, except perhaps faster and with actual defensive acumen instead of perceived defensive acument. No idea if he can hit as well as Joey. My point is that Moore has been emphasizing acquiring speedy, athletic outfielders in the system – and Dyson seems to be the first and the furthest along since this emphasise began.
Now, I know what everyone is thinking – What the hell is so important about developing Gathright-esque outfielders? Well, if our G.D. GMDM has a player like this available in his system, maybe he isn’t tempted to trade a supplemental 1st round LH reliever, who turns out to be actually useful and valuable, for said player.
Heh, it’s a small point, and still doesn’t preclude other screwups by the GM – but arguably makes said screwups a bit less prevelant.
How’s that for some positive spin?
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Good point
I don’t mind a Gathrightesque player so long as he’s cheap and he’s our reserve OF.
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 16, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Dyson is fun to watch
Just like Gathright was fun to watch. He’ll be even more fun to watch if he reads flyballs better than Gathright. Of course the problem with both of them is that they just can’t hit or get on base very much. But they can be useful 4th/5th OFers.
One problem with Moore is that he appears to like this kind of player too much. He frequently drafts and acquires this kind of very fast OFer who can’t hit (Gathright, Dyson, Derrick Robinson, Paulo Orlando, etc.). I think he needs to adjust his focus to include more OFers who are slower but appear to be able to hit.
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mix-n-match
CF defense can make up for poor hitting and also cover the less-speedy LF/RF players who can hit. it’s just about using (and as you say, drafting) these players the right way. this might actually be one area where Dayton’s old-school and WAR’s new-school could overlap.
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Podzilla And DDJ =
Power in the corners
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
maybe they’re not going to overlap after all
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is certainly true
But these guys have hit so horribly that their defense and position adjustment haven’t made up for their poor hitting. Even playing CF with good defense, Gathright projects to be a below average player. Right now, the same is true of Dyson. It is also true of Podsednik (who is actually poor defensively in CF).
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yeah, i wasn't intending to suggest that Gathright or Pods fit that mold
just that if Dyson or speedy CF-prospect-to-be-named-later could be like Gathright, only with better D to make up for the crummy bat, it might actually have value in GMDM’s system
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
in fairness
He has drafted Nick Van Stratten, David Lough and traded for Jordan Parraz
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You have to find a potential CF somehow
I like the method of gathering lots of great athletes and hoping to teach one to hit for average as a value move.
I think the odds of that working out are much better than trying to make a good hitter serviceable at CF. DeJesus was a great find but I don’t believe their are too many guys like him out there which is what makes him special. I don’t like Mitch as a starter (in the long run).
Doesn’t Hilton Richardson fall in the same speedy-guy category as well?
loyal2sdad......
do you bowl at AMF college lanes? cause i DVRed the game too so i could watch it after bowling
higs,
I live in Jefferson City – bowl in Columbia on Mondays.
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
I like the fact that Dayton
still has his shades ready to go at a moment’s notice.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
He wears his sunglasses at night
So he can, so he can, watch Willie Bloomquist weave then breathe his story lines.
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Count me concerned that it's nighttime
and Dayton is so dressed down he’s not even wearing the mandatory golf shirt.
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the last second of the pregame ZG LT throwing
Whoever that catcher was threw it over his head… pitchers hate that. Zack may throw a Chipotle burrito at that guy whoever it was….
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
if the was mad at him, why would he throw something so wonderful?
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
good point.
I stand corrected.
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Zack may throw a Chipotle burrito wrapper at that guy whoever it was….
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It's good to see ZG with the LT pregame.
But my main concern is whether or not they do it to build the arm. Not just for warm ups. But I appreciate you making a point to let me/us know ZG LTs pregame!
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It's really amazing that Zack hasn't had any major physical problems (at least none that I can remember)
one of the underrated and great things about him
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
His Mechanics Are
Damn near perfect. I’ve never seen such an effortless-looking 95 mph fastball.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have added
that I’ve commented on his health so much this offseason that I’ve almost certainly jinxed him
so if the unthinkable happens, blame me
I’m so excited to see how many complete game 1-0 losses he takes this season
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Zack Pitching For
This team is the perfect storm. He could lose 20 and have a sub-2.00 era.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I would consider it an awesome achievement for the Royals fielders
if Zack finished with a sub-2.00 era
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Defensive improvements could help him do that
The OF defense is going to be significantly improved (and could be greatly improved if Hillman put the right men at the right positions). And if the Royals play Aviles instead of Yuni and give Getz a full season at 2B, the IF defense would be pretty good too (not that I necessarily want a full season of Getz at 2B, but that is the best defensive option).
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Yeah, I'd Rather
See Alberto “Hands Of Stone” Callaspo and Aviles, but Getz almost certainly would a better defender.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And Getz needs some significant playing time to develop and so the team can see if he's any good
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Which Is Why
I’d love to see Bert get a shot In LF, but we’d need Trey’s hot tub time machine for that to have any chance now.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but if Bert can handle LF
that won’t give KC a chance to kill his value by playing him at DH
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Callaspo in LF too
I think I like this lineup:
C – B. Pena
1B – Butler
2B – Getz
3B – Gordon
SS – Aviles
LF – Callaspo
CF – DeJesus
RF – Ankiel
DH – Ka’aihue
Bench
C – Pena
UO – Maier
U – Bloomquist
U – Fields
My #2 SS would be Callaspo. My #2 CF would be Maier.
That’s a decent, not embarrassing lineup and bench.
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I especially like Pena's versatility
starting and playing the bench at the same time. We need to alter the positional adjustments to account for that sort of skill.
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking outside the box!
Actually, I couldn’t bring myself to type K-e-n-d-a………
The immoderate moderator
Try B-u-c-k For
A million less.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
try Pina for even less
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Getz Could
Be the #2 SS with Bloomers at 2B.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Getz Would Still
Be the regular 2B, just moving to SS as necessary.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
on days when
Greinke can’t fill in
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Greinke's accurate (and hilarous) comment about the Royals defense:
I think the outfield’s faster but the infield is pretty much the same….It seemed like today they were in the wrong place every time, so it didn’t matter how fast they were."
—From the KC Star
by swing and a miss on Mar 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He Might Be
The best MIF on the team.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitcher defense
is the new market inefficiency
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
Maybe We Hired
Mackey Sasser.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Out Of
Place comments in one thread; I’m on a roll.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it would be fun to have a beer with him and talk baseball
Like Allard Baird, I think he’s a nice, smart guy who should be a scout or Asst. GM.
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I think he would be a great fit for GM of any other Al Central team
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That Is Literally
A “deer-in-the-headlights” look.
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by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't want to bug him too much.
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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Mar 16, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
holy crap! shit just got real?!!!?!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be interesting
I’m reading Bill Simmons basketball book and he talks about his conversations with Isiah Thomas and Chris Ford, both terrible GMs. Isiah actually handled himself pretty well, explaining why he did the dumb things he did, and Simmons basically says he vigorously disagree, but at least he understands why Isiah was trying to do.
With Ford, Simmons suggests “why didn’t you do this instead?” and lays out a very realistic plan that Ford could have done and he writes that Ford just looks at him like its the first time that has ever crossed his mind.
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