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Out of Options Players From Around the Majors

As mentioned in the recent Davies thread, the Royals should keep an eye on other teams' players who are out of options, as they may become available in trade or on waivers before final rosters are due before opening day.

Here is a list compiled by mlbtraderumors.com, which I think has been previously linked. These are players who are out of options and with less than 5 years service time. Obviously, not all of these players are in any risk of being waived or otherwise becoming available (sorry Scott Baker fans), but there are a handful of interesting names that might become available cheaply or for free. One common scenario is when teams trade for each other's out of options players (such as Jorge de la Rosa for Ramon Ramirez de facto trade), so if the Royals decide to trade Davies or one of the other out of option Royals, these might be some of the trade candidates.

After the jump are some, but not all, of the interesting out of options players with some possibility of becoming available. 

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In the other thread, Matt mentioned the A's DH Jake Fox, who probably lost his job at DH when the A's resigned Jack Cust. Fox is basically a slightly better Josh Fields, a low average righty masher without a real defensive position, although Fox has some experience at catcher. The A's might want to keep him as a platoon partner for Cust/right-handed pinch hitter/emergency catcher, but he might get caught in a numbers game.

A's 2B/OF Eric Patterson -- speed guy with good minor league numbers but only so-so defense. He would need some combination of his bat and defense improving enough to make it as a regular.

Blue Jays LHP Brian Tallet -- great changeup makes him effective against righties. He might end up a decent 4th starter.

Brewers C George Kottaras -- decent bat but questionable defense. He is likely a backup long term. He probably makes the Brewers as their backup, but might become expendable.

Giants OF Fred Lewis -- DDJ lite. He is not quite as good as DDJ with the bat or in the field, but basically same skillset. He might be stretched in CF, but would be above average defensively in a corner.

Indians 1B/3B Andy Marte -- obligatory mention. Marte was a huge prospect bust but has shown life in minors.

Indians RHP Mitch Talbot -- former Rays prospect coming back from injuries. He might be decent bullpen arm with outside shot at starting.

Padres RHP Sean Gallagher -- former Cubs prospect who has never put it together in the majors despite great numbers in the minors. CHONE still believes in him with a projected 3.91 FIP albeit in Petco.

former Royals Review white whale Reds OF Wladimir Balentien -- remember him? He is another low-average right-handed masher who can actually play the corner outfield.

None of these players are sure bets by any means, but they would be preferable to once again playing veteran retreads in another lost season.

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The Royals should definitely acquire Marte

all the better to bury Gordon with

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Haven't the Pirates already traded for Gordon?

I’m not a big Marte guy, but I would rather give him 400 PA at DH than Guillen.

by Gopherballs on Mar 16, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not Dayton Moore's kind of guy, but I'd like to get Balentien

CHONE loves him (.358 wOBA) and he’s shown pretty good defense so far in the majors.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, I agree

Dave Cameron hates him, but I suppose watching him flail around in Seattle will do that to a guy

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't he a lot like young Jose Guillen?

With maybe better defense, not as great an arm, and not a total dick?

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 16, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen was a better pure hitter

while Balentien has more patience and more strikeouts.

Guillen was a pretty good all-around outfielder before all of the leg injuries turned him into one of the worst.

by Gopherballs on Mar 16, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought Guillen had his legs amputated?

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Balentien is exactly the type of player the Royals should be looking for ...

… he’s a guy who has a chance of actually turning into a solid player. He isn’t one right now, and it’s less than even money odds that he ever will generate anything more than fringe value. But at least there’s a modest chance that he’ll put together one additional big advance in his development that will get him there.

You put Balentien in left and dump Podsednik.

by Steve Nelson on Mar 16, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love Tallet, Fox, Lewis, and Gallagher (think CHONE's FanGraphs projection is pre-trade, not sure)

like Balentien, Marte, Tallet,

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Tallet would make sense

don’t know if the Blue Jays need a righty long reliever/emergency starter (probably not, actually), but Tallet could be the 5th starter (hooray for GMDM, lefty starter) or move to the ’pen where there is a need for lefties.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

the righty long reliever is Davies, if that wasn't clear

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the Jays

They may not have room for Davies, as their staff is pretty well stacked with decent but not great pitchers (which is the reason why Tallet might be available). Mitch Maier might make more sense, as I think right now their fourth outfielder would be either Joey Gathright or Jeremy Reed. Cash or a live arm are also possibilities.

by Gopherballs on Mar 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, after thinking about it, it's not like middling right-handed relievers are "valued assets"

maybe Davies’s swingman ability to be an emergency starter has a little value.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe Davies’s swingman ability to be an emergency starter has a little value.

And some team might think his stuff could help him still turn into a decent SP. The Rockies thought that about de la Rosa when they traded for him, despite his persistent failure as a starter in the majors to that point, and they turned out to be right.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 16, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as a short reliever

like the Royals did with Tejada. Davies’ velocity should get a bump (along with swinging strike rate) and his wonky control should be less of an issue.

by Gopherballs on Mar 16, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i wouldn't put it past a team to look at the Royals' player development

(or lack thereof) and say, ‘hey maybe we can find something to tweak on this guy that the Royals couldn’t to make him a quality pitcher’ (a la DLR)
Though maybe that’s not fair to McClure since he’s done a pretty good job.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they will give the RH long reliever role to

Brad Thompson

(not saying I agree – just predicting what the braintrust will do)

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by loyal2sdad on Mar 16, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Patterson

I don’t think he’ll be great, but I think he can be a better, younger, faster, cheaper Willie Bloomquist with enough upside that he could turn into a 2B starter.

I’ve been a fan of Fred Lewis for years. I don’t get why the Giants don’t like him.

I’d love Charlie Haeger just to have a guy that can mop up in blow outs and spot start. I’d probably just go to a four man rotation and let Haeger start when we needed a day off for our starters.

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been a fan of Fred Lewis for years. I don’t get why the Giants don’t like him

The Giants FO doesn’t like Lewis because he can post a respectable OBP. We can’t have any of those.

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by Gobroks on Mar 16, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he can post a respectable OBP, then our FO doesn’t want him either.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 16, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Grant the main guy on McCovey Chronicles phrased it best in the Giants season preview
Other than Sandoval, only one hitter in the starting lineup had an on-base percentage over .330 (Fred Lewis), and he was benched midseason. You know, for getting on base. Or maybe it was done on a dare. Not sure.

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by Gobroks on Mar 16, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I would think scouts would like him too

I mean he’s fast! And he can steal bases! And he’s fast!

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 16, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think the problem is that the Giants thought he would develop into a power hitter

when he is best utilized as a top of the order hitter.

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by Gobroks on Mar 16, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Fred Lewis's SB Page

Assets

    * Has great tools, including speed and home-run power. Can play any of the three outfield positions with aplomb.

Now…what two words will jump out to GMDM?

by Dadunca on Mar 16, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Tools

I’m assuming I don’t know a whole lot about your GM except he’s… not quite as good as his mentor but anyway Lewis has never really shown a whole lot of power-and his minor league and major league statlines are quite similar

Minors – .282/.381/.420
Majors – .272/.355/.420

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by Gobroks on Mar 16, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can play any of the three outfield positions with aplomb.???

Now what the heck does that mean? Does that mean he carries a lead pipe into the outfield with him? Or is he out there checking the fence posts to make sure they’re still vertical?

But no matter what, it appears that he’s a player who has some tools.

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by Steve Nelson on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I notice the Royals have quite a few names on that list:
Alberto Callaspo, Roman Colon, Kyle Davies, Josh Fields, Luke Hochevar, Anthony Lerew, Brayan Pena, Robinson Tejeda, Mitch Maier.

GMDM and Hillman seem pretty close-minded about Mitch Maier, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see him traded for “cash” near the deadline. I would hate that. Moore and Hillman both seem to love Colon with an irrational intensity, so he probably will be kept for no good reason at all.

Callaspo, Pena and Maier are all on the list. The Royals finally have to decide to either keep them or let them go. Given the off-season acquistions it appears Dayton Moore is ready to let all three walk, as he has already aquired redundent and more expensive players to replace them on the roster. Callaspo should play at second, Yuny and Fields should be released, and Pena should start 100 games at catcher this year. Maier should be the 4th outfielder. This will never happen, but it would be sweet.

One possible acquistion that I would love, Tom Gorzelanny. Former Jayhawk. He has been bad for two years, but there must be some hope left. I sure wouldn’t mind seeing Cody Ross and Leo Nunez come to KC from the land of Sam, Michael and Fi, but I think the Marlins will let either of them walk without a significant return. Those are two player the Royals could really use next year.

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by James Quinn on Mar 16, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Just to reiterate

Being on this list does not necessarily mean the team is down on the player — they just happen to meet two criteria (1) out of options and (2) with less than 5 years MLB service time. I just tried to pick out a few of the names of interesting players who do not appear to have secure jobs and thus might be on the bubble with their team.

by Gopherballs on Mar 16, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Callaspo and B Pena

are virtual locks to make this team, FWIW.

Maier should be – but I could see Moore doing something stupid with him.

He will NOT pass thru waivers, if they try that – he is clearly better than many teams 4th OF, and would most certainly be claimed by somebody.

Let’s hope he keeps up his fine spring play and forces Moore to keep him over somebody else (I’m looking at you, Josh Fields)

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by loyal2sdad on Mar 16, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitch Maier sounds like Matt Diaz all over again to me.

We’ll let him go for nothing and someone will scoop him up and he’ll play there for several years. I actually think Mitch has a little upside still, as he’s improved in his 2nd year at every level. He needs to be given that chance at the MLB level.

by AxDxMx on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mitch always hit for moderate power in the minors. I could well see him hitting .280/.335/.400, or thereabouts, in the majors next year. Add in his defense and base speed and he is an excellent fourth OFer, especially for MLB minimum wage. I hated last year when Dayton Moore traded for Crisp instead of giving Maier a chance. And this year he passed over Maier again by signing an older, more expensive player who probably will perform no better than Mitch. My thinking is that, for whatever reason, simply doesn’t trust Maier. That is why I half expect him to be cut loose this spring.

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by James Quinn on Mar 17, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's too bad the Royals signed Scotty Pods they could've traded a minor league reliever for Lewis probably.

San Frans distaste for him probably would’ve lead to little getting him.

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by kcscoliny on Mar 17, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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