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Jermaine Dye


Okay, I want Jermaine Dye. The guy has been waiting for the right deal and you have to figure that if someone offers him what he's worth, he will sign. Here's the plan. Dayton will have to choke on his pride and move Guillen for almost nothing (think C level A player). Then, you sign Dye for 2 years and 13 mil with a club option for a third year. He costs less than Guillen and IMO, he will produce much better. Teams that could be interested in Guillen: Mets, A's, Blue Jays, Orioles, Astros, Padres. Even if we have to eat half his salary, it would be worth it. We'd essentially be paying Guillen's money to Dye. Well, I know there will be some to call me crazy, so let's go. Discussion.

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Sadly, Jermaine Hits

Better than our DH candidates, but I don’t think he’s worth the money is a losing year. He may fall off the table next year.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 27, 2010 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Dye

but i don’t think spending money to dump Guillen and then more money to add Dye is wise.

I think we just let Guillen fall off at years end and get a better RFer.

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by Peterman700 on Mar 27, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Logic?

Help me with it here.

If KC splits the cost of Guillen with a team in a trade…why wouldn’t the team just save their money AND their prospect and sign Dye themselves?

I mean, he’s obviously going to be lucky to get a 1.5 million dollar deal…if a team is so desperate for a bat they go for Guillen…I’d pick Dye in a heartbeat…wouldn’t you?

Oh wait! You did….not being mean, just saying…i support your theory..but its not logical. Let’s just hope Guillen gets called into Hillman’s office for that “talk”….then worry about Dye.

by KennyPowers_from_Scout on Mar 27, 2010 5:34 AM EDT reply actions  

For the most part, I agreee...

…I like Dye, and hate seeing him unsigned because he seems like one of the good guys in the game, but he’s a good example of diminishing returns if you sign him for $1.5M – and he’s a good example of a sunk cost for anything than that.

by Casper01 on Mar 27, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

No team is going to trade anything for Guillen

even if the Royals eat half of his salary. As was pointed out, they’d just sign Dye. The only option is to put him on waivers, wait until no one claims him, then release him.

As Phil said, there is absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money on a DH in a year where, best case scenario, he would take the Royals from, say, 74 wins to 76.

The only logical option is to dump Guillen and truly see what you’ve got in Kila. Logic being involved (along with the accompanying swallowing of pride and salary), Dayton isn’t going with that option.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Mar 27, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

no way we should spend that much money on Dye

Love Dye, but he’s just getting too old.

I would much rather have Kila log some ABs and pay him next to nothing than bring on another multi-million dollar deal.

by AtTheWall on Mar 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want Dye

He’s still a decent hitter, but not a great one. And he’s horrendous in the OF. His range is long gone. So he’d make for a poor OFer overall (approx. 1.2 WAR, which only minimally better than Ankiel, Pods or Maier). And his value doesn’t change much if you move him to DH because of the positional adjustment.

So Dye isn’t worth 2/13. And I don’t see any reason to give him a two year guaranteed commitment for any amount of money. The Royals definitely need to get rid of Guillen and give those at bats to Callaspo, Kila or someone else in the organization. But they certainly shouldn’t replace one over the hill, overpaid player with another.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 27, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Jermaine Dye is one of my favorite Royals of all-time

But I agree. No reason to bring him here. If anyone should DH upon the release/trade of Guillen its Kila.

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 27, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Brad Hawpe

but older and with a lesser bat

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 27, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Dye Is Too

Old to do this.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 27, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will join those

that think Dye is done-or close to it. A tremendous liability in the field at this point in his career, he is also losing his ability to be positive with the bat.

Is it safe?

by KHAZAD on Mar 28, 2010 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with NYRoyal-

he would have to DH, his bat may still be sorta OK, but the bigger question is:

Why pay Dye whatever he would cost, when you have a 26 year old who could quite likely produce the same (or perhaps better) numbers, at a fraction of the cost? (I’m talking about Kila here)

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by loyal2sdad on Mar 29, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

We're trying to get rid of overpaid old players,

not get another one. No point in spending money on Dye that you could use on developing younger players.

I also don’t think that anyone would give us anything for Guillén. This might well be his last season in the major leagues.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Mar 29, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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