Royal Bullpen Blows Big Lead, Bitterly Betrays Brian Bannister
by Freneau on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT
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PrintRemember when we thought Dayton Moore was gifted at constructing good bullpens? This sentiment peaked in 2008, with the emergence of Ramon Ramirez, who complimented Soria and the handful of lesser lights who had given the Royals competent to good bullpens in '07 and '08. It makes sense, right? Bullpen guys are almost always reclamation projects, and here we had this great scouting team in place. They would know who just needed another chance, who just needed to iron out his delivery. All that.
For me, this was the last Moore illusion to go, at least regarding the Big League club. I wasn't a fan of the Crisp/Jacobs trades, but what I did like about them was that Moore was seemingly building on a strength, announcing, "I'm not afraid to lose Nunez and Ramirez because I can find good bullpen arms anywhere." Well, it turns out, he can't.
Trey Hillman isn't a good manager. He doesn't appear to really do anything well, and that includes the wishy-washy inspirational mumbo-jumbo aspect of managing. However, he's only partially to blame here. The Royals left Spring Training with a bad mix of relievers, thanks to a weak selection and some weird decisions regarding who goes to Omaha and who goes to KC. Hillman played a role in that, but beyond that, this latest meltdown really isn't on him.
But getting back to the specifics of this game. It is really really hard to lose a game when you lead 5-0 in the 7th inning, but the Royals found a way.
When Brian Bannister struck out Carlos Guillen to start the 7th, the Royals had something like a 90% chance of winning the game. And when you consider that the Tigers then rallied for six runs before the Royals could record just two more outs, you understand just how awful the inning was. It is incredibly difficult to score six runs in an inning without hitting a home run somewhere in the middle. But we now know that it can happen.
So the 7th was thus an odd mix of an incredibly predictable series of events that, nevertheless, rationally, were extremely unlikely.
- Bannister gave up a walk to Brandon Inge and a double to Laird to make it 5-1. Despite that run and a man on second, we're only marginally into "it's a game now" territory. However, when Hillman elected to pull Bannister and insert Colon, you could see the Tigers growling.
- Colon immediately surrenders a double to Scott Sizemore making it 5-2. However, the amazing thing is this, right after that, Santiago fouled out. With that out, the Royals were still about 90% likely to hold onto the game. It was 5-2 with one on and one out. But they found a way.
- Even Jackson's double, which made it 5-3, only improved Detroit's chances of coming back to around ~20.
- So Colon gives way to Hughes, who unluckily allows an infield single, and then walks Ordonez to load the bases. This sets up the Cruz-Cabrera battle, which produces a Cabrera walk, followed by a Carlos Guillen double, making it 6-5. Colon-Hughes-Cruz combined to allow four runs without recording an out to end the inning.
- It honestly could and should have been worse, as Cruz continued to struggle in the 8th, and ultimately Cruz+ Mendoza would load the bases with one out. Somehow, Mendoza escaped but it did not matter.
The Royal offense, despite scoring 5 runs, is partially to blame. Scoring 5 runs off of the combination of Dontrelle Willis and four innings of the Tiger bullpen is no great accomplishment, especially considering that Willis does not appear to be a AA pitcher anymore. Squandering a bases loaded+one out situation in the 1st was especially costly.
The Royals are 3-5, in spite of a number of Dayton's Heroes playing way over their heads. Scotty Pods is hitting .452. Captain Kendall is hitting .310. Jose Guillen is hitting .312 with power.
No solutions, no hope.
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Alliteration is fun
“Bunny Bites Breslin. Breslin Bleeds Badly”
They made it look pretty easy, in fact...
The Royals were very lucky to only lose this by one.
I thought that, too
Still haven’t figured out how we didn’t lose by three or four.
by MinnesotaRoyal on Apr 13, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Somehow Mendoza got somebody out
with the bases loaded, no less.
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
that's the worst part in my opinion
Mendoza was one of the more successful relievers today, which means he’ll stick around
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it was uncanny...
They did EXACTLY what they needed to do to lose. Stranded lots of guys early, gave up runs late.
by billexgordler on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
All you needed for that headline
were the first three words.
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
by Juancho on Apr 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
ha
or this
Royals Bullpen Doesn’t Even Give Brian Bannister The Reacharound
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 13, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The guys' morale must be way down
The starters and position players have got to be just pissed at this point that they work so hard and it goes to crap. There have been two decisions on starters so far, right? One loss and one win in eight games. I would want to just rail on management if I were them.
like they give a shit
half our starters won’t be here next year, these guys are playing for a check and their next job. you don’t come to the royals to win, you come to the royals because management promises you 600 ab’s and the position of your choice.
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if only there were some
veteran leadership on this team
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8 man bullpen...
it requires two guys
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 13, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I leave for an hour long class with the Royals up 5-0. Come back and they lose 6-5
This is fucking ridiculous. I am sick of this shit. We have had to chance to win most games, but the pile of shit that we call the bullpen can’t throw for shit. I’ve seen better arms on a bean bag chair. GM, call up some youngsters. Trey, play the right people for the position. I am seriously tired of having to watch/listen to the bullpen destroy a great outing by the starter. This is horrible. We could be 5-3 or even 6-2, but the bullpen holds a lead like an 80 year old man holds his bladder. They just can’t do it. Make a trade, call up someone. I don’t care, I just can’t take this anymore.
by NaturalsLight on Apr 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Better arms on a beanbag chair?
Tremendous.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 13, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a think of beauty (Unless you're a Tigers fan)
by sterlingice on Apr 13, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So we were sitting around 99% win probability at one point
I think somebody said that wasn’t good enough the other day and then multiple people posted that they were overreacting. Seriously, don’t count your chickens until they become roosters people.
Can...
you call up Vegas in the 7th inning and place a bet?
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 13, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes me wonder
…maybe these probability charts should include specific team-bullpen data?
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by Justin Bopp on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see that
but that would be a shit-ton of work.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
How about another RCI this week?
Wouldn’t that be ugly….uggghhh
apparently our pen inspired the yanks pen....
they’re trying to blow a huge lead a well
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 13, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
How long did we hang onto Sydney Ponson last year.
Might be a good indicator of how long we hang on to this bunch.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 13, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
Just looked it up.
Didn’t let him go till August.
(YMB puts big toe on trigger of shotgun………)
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look on the bright side...
We are keeping Soria healthy and fresh.
I would much rather see Soria in that situation, with runners on in a pressure situation
Than to save him in the pen in case we keep the lead. I hate how closers are only used in save opportunities. It is ridiculous.
by NaturalsLight on Apr 13, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Soria For 4
Outs, then a clean slate for whoever starts the 9th probably with a 3 run lead. I like those odds a lot better than Colon with runners on.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
For. Real.
Let’s use our best guy in our most high-leverage situation rather than never.
Especially right now when the starters all seem to still be working on building up their stamina. It’s all shot to hell by the 9th inning at this point. Over and over and over again.
Its so awesome that Joel and Frank are having a giggle fight
instead of actually talking about the issue at hand.
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
Ryan's last 30 minutes consisted of talking about how Trey....
….will have to find a guy he can go to when the starter starts to wear down. No shit buddy! Let’s not talk about how we don’t have more than maybe 1 guy that has been able to perform well this year. No, that’s not the issue. The issue is that Trey has to figure out which guy he can go to. If you have to pick one turd out of a pile of shit, how do you defend your choice?
11-18!
My prediction on when the roster restructuring begins.
what the fuck does he mean...'he's never seen anything like it?'
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 13, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
My exact thoughts when I heard that
He must have a short memory
I dont have time to educate
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
At least it made the work day go by faster...
But then I’m stuck getting more and more pissed watching the bullpen blow it.
Still not sure if I’d rather this happen at night so I just go to bed pissed, or during the day so I spend the rest of the work day in a bad mood.
by Chiefs n Chopper on Apr 13, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions
Happy Hour Awaits!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So a dog got loose at a Naturals game and ran around for awhile and took a dump on the field
I don’t know what made me think of that. Must have just been a coincidence.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
I'll take this one over the Astros
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Washington Generals
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Apr 13, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
At least they're entertaining
Posnanski’s post about their coach was one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.
It's all ball bearings these days!
by CentralChamps20?? on Apr 13, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I read the same thing...
Which is actually what made me think of them
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Apr 13, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Has there even been a more obvious result
Than the Guillen first-pitch double? I was sitting there thinking, Cruz is going to start with a fastball, Guillen knows this, I know this, and he’s going to hammer it. There was no other possibility.
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You know it. I know it.
Moltar know it. Zorak know it. Tansut know it. Brak know it. Lokar know it. And those other people do too.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 13, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's Moltar?
Who? Oh, I traded him.
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by Old Man Duggan on Apr 13, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
On the plus side,
I learned a lot about the census today.
by KSinDC on Apr 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously this team could have a winning record. Just an adequately competent bullpen
would do the trick.
And we have that
They’re just chilling in AAA right now. Because that depth is key.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Day Banny days are suppose to be Happy Days
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He's crafty
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody please explain Banny's numbers
I posted these in the game thread as well
Career:
1st time through the order: .278 / .339 / .411
2nd time through the order: .249 / .298 / . 388
3rd time through the order: .284 / .346 / .496
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=bannibr01&year=Career&t=p#innng
He goes from marginal starter to ace back to marginal starter. How does that work? I can’t find any other pitcher who follows a pattern like this.
sample sizes are pretty decent
over 800 plate appearances for the first two and over 600 for the third.
Pitcher's don't typically show all their pitches til the 2nd time through the order correct?
When Banny adds the 3rd pitch (and others), it’s the 2nd time through the order. After the hitters adjust he’s back to marginal.
Good theory?
and also
if he’s pitching poorly he never sees the hitters a second time. but when he’s pitching well, the hitters catch up to him by the third time (and he gets fatigued).
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 13, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we really know
that each starter approaches a game differently?
Do we know that Banny “waits” to throw an additional pitch until the 2nd time through?
Does Greinke do the same thing? Adds a different pitch on the 2nd, then 3rd time through to get better each time?
Or…..does everyone throw whatever they have working that day from the start? Then, Meches’ pattern makes sense, Bannies doesn’t make too much sense except that he may just take the 1st go around to get into the batters heads, and Greinke……well, he’s just cold. ICE COLD!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Think of it this way
If Banny really is holding something back until the second time through the order, he might want to start showing it in the first inning. Those first-time numbers are not good. I’m sure he’s looking at all of this. I wonder if anyone’s ever asked him about it.
Maybe he cant
Perhaps he just doesn’t get warmed up until the 2nd or third inning.
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Banny's Stuff Will
Never be overwhelming. Whe he starts catching too much of the strike zone, as tired pitchers are wont to do, the results can get ugly.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems to do pretty good until he hits his wall
and then you need to get him out of there FAST because he hits it hard.
Bannymetrics
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"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yes, this is full of win
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Approved.
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Perhaps he just starts cold
Gets hot, then hitters figure him out
Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell
by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The rest of the rotation
Greinke in 2009
1st PA in G, as SP: .264 / .312 / .392
2nd PA in G, as SP: .231 / .277 / .329
3rd PA in G, as SP: .189 / .235 / .277
Zack is a beast best not understood by meer numbers
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Its like the batter's failure only makes Zack stronger
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that 3rd time looks more like atrocious starter than marginal starter to me
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 13, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I disagree
But it’s sad that he’s right in line with Meche, who has a reputation for stamina
3rd time through the order (career):
Banny: .284 / .346 / .496
Meche: .285 / .356 / .463
Worst bullpen in MLB history?
It has to be right up there. Somewhere Albie Lopez is smiling.
Yes, I'm still alive. Sorry to disappoint you.
by royaldaddy on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
They'll regress to mediocrity right about the same time our hitters do
And we’ll resume the run at 100 losses as planned.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 13, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
This is not meant as an announcement
more a support group type thing.
I think I’m going to take a Rany-break from the Royals for a bit. This is unhealthy and the team is just too awful.
"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"
Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split
You should only watch the first six innings of every game
Then turn it off. The first six innings are fun to watch!
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I see the term "unlucky" used a lot with Dusty Hughes.
That is a real shame, seeing as his sucking is more based on him sucking than luck.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
Actually
He had Damon down 1-2 and just kept trying to nibble with breaking balls when he could not throw strikes, thus running the count full and giving Damon a hitter’s pitch to get his bat on. So, that’s kinda his fault.
It's all ball bearings these days!
by CentralChamps20?? on Apr 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I made a prediction earlier today
That the Royals will never go over 500 this because of the bullpen. It is a shame because I love the new position players that DM brought to the Royals and it shows signs of being a team that knows how to win, but the bullpen will never let it happen. I don’t know the answer, but DM had better find one soon if he want to compete this season.
I love the new position players that DM brought to the Royals
And what really sucks is these position players are off to great starts….so you know they’ll return to earth. The Royals are 6th in runs/game, 4th in OBA, and 6th in SLG. You know that won’t last, so even when the bullpen improves, the offense is probably going to drop off quite a bit. Oh and our starting pitchers probably won’t continue pitching this well. Frustrating.
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I think that's why this makes me so angry
Everything is going well other than the bullpen. They’re scoring runs and the starters are keeping them in the game. If the bullpen could be even passable we would have won at least one if not two or three more games. Since everything will eventually drop off, as it always does, they need to take advantage of the good things they have going and try to not completely suck at the beginning of the year. The bullpen just won’t let that happen. It’s like a winning record is right there but no matter what they’ll never reach it because one of the gears in the system is so broken that it messes up everything else beyond repair.
by MinnesotaRoyal on Apr 13, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
They Royals weren't going to go over .500 this year anyhow.
Almost everyone capable of getting on a hot streak on offense just happens to be on one right now. Pods will not hit .400 the rest of the way, Kendall will not hit .300 the rest of the way, Guillen will not stay on a 90+ home run pace, and AL pitchers will learn to exploit the hole in Ankiel’s swing soon enough. It just happens to be the bullpen’s “fault” right now—the offense, defense and starters will all get their turns.
(“Fault” in quotes because this is a failure in roster construction, nothing else. And we all know whose fault that is).
It's all ball bearings these days!
by CentralChamps20?? on Apr 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But the Royals have been a part of every game so far except for 1 I think
With a lockdown pen, they may only have 1 loss.
And they have found a way to blow those games
thats whats so frustrating. You get to thinking they might turn the corner and they constantly shoot themselves in the foot. If they have to lose in such a grotesque fashion I’d prefer they do it with the kids and not overpay for crap. The way the starters have pitched and the hitters have produced its unfair to them to have the same core group blow it EVERYTIME.
I'm with you
I think I was pointing out that this team will be absolutely horrible when the offense settles down. Without the overproduction, they won’t even be involved in games for the pen to blow.
I actually like this.
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At least we have a Mendoza that keeps defensive players out of the minors
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Apr 13, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
I'll Send It
To GMDM.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am sorry
but I am angry today because if the bullpen keeps blowing leads, it will get in the heads of the starter and position players and they will go to hell too. I was ready to write to season off and then the lineup started playing like major league players and you could feel the chemistry. I guess if I feel this bad DM and Hillman must feel worse, but I hate that they allowed to bullpen to come out of spring training.
One last shot
you don’t have to worry about Soria’s shoulder this year because it won’t pitching that much.
I disagree
With ripping the offense for “only” coming up with 5 runs. 5 should be enough to win a ball game.
That’s what. four blown saves in 8 games? Maybe 5? Trey and Dayton have gotta blow up the bullpen, no matter how un-prepared they think Rosa, Wood and Hayes are. There’s no excusing standing pat on this sorry crew.
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Agree Agree Agree
lets get some hard liners down there or some youth
by BlueBloodRoyal on Apr 13, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it also shouldve been more than 5 runs....
ankiel had bases loaded and 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and k’d both times
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Apr 13, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Blow it up
Keep Hughes, dump Colon and Mendoza outright. Trade Cruz for a couple dozen sets of cleats and bring up anybody with a pulse in Omaha. This has gotten beyond ridiculous. This was there best shot to get back to .500. I doubt they will ever get this close to it again.
Other than that,
how did you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?
Small ball - that was a good plan in 1910, not 2010. Thanks, Dayton.
by loyal2sdad on Apr 13, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
That made my day
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Unlike.
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This loss is a blessing disguise
Matta fact each loss is….royals don’t want to give dayton moore any reason that they will compete this season. He’s the type of GM that doesn’t sell high on players that are helping the team win…
i wish that were the case
regardless of the loss, he’ll still claim Podz and JK are hitting the cover off the ball
Trey Hillman is a genius!!!!!!!!
Don’t blow up just yet. Let that bolded title statement sink in without a reaction yet. Here is why I think he might just be a genius.
Hillman has said (?) that he is working with what he has in the bullpen, suggesting he may not have had a heavy hand in deciding the bull pen construction. So if this is the case, and you were the manager, wouldn’t you walk out the Implosion Machines?
Bear with me on this thought. What if Hillman is knowingly and sarcastically placing the bull pen pitchers in positions he knows they can’t handle, so he can get to the guys in AAA faster?
Out of the realm of possibility you say? Well to that I shall counter with, I really thought a 5-0 lead in the seventh was a near guarantee until today.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
You're not the first person to think that Trey trys to intentionally lose games
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
true but if you did protect Zach, Banny and Hoch
then you’d win three out of 4 or 5 games. That’s not going to make/allow Dayton to move these bull pen guys to AAA and get the young arms up.
You gotta lose all games no matter who starts, and you have to lose them because of the bull pen to get the AAA guys up.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Giving Trey way too much credit.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Hmm
“What if Hillman is knowingly and sarcastically placing the bull pen pitchers in positions he knows they can’t handle, so he can get to the guys in AAA faster?”
It’s not like he has to try very hard to find a situation most of those guys can’t handle. An opposing hitter in the batter’s box is usually sufficient.
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. -- Albert Einstein
by The Ol' Perfesser on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ahahha awesome
yeah I know this is a stretch but damn I have to have something to enertain myself.
this helps me cope, Hillman-san is doing this on purpose.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice job constructing the pen, Dayton
fun debate about the idea of actually using our best reliever when we’re in a situation where the game is going to be lost in the 7th
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
by my numbers Taxes... but not by much
Royals are 98% likely to kick you in the balls
Taxes are 100% likely to kick you in the balls
Not for those of us who are unemployed
Getting close to 10 grand back from the IRS, I wish taxes were every month!
I'm Getting Almost
$1,300.00 back this year, but I claimed no dependents all year. It really cut into my takehome pay, but I paid almost $3,000.00 the first year I was filing single.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Any truth to the rumor
that the Colon claimed the Tigers as dependents on his 1040?
so
if Dayton can’t identify major league talent through free agency (of any kind), waivers, or trades, what makes you think that he will find good major league talent through the draft?
Also, anybody saying that the farm system is the only way doesn’t know their Royals history. But Dayton dumped most of the tradeable pieces in just 4 years.
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
And Smoak, And
Lincecum……..oh, wait, he’s already here.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 13, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Seconded!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Only one solution left:
New owner, new GM, new manager. And if takes a new city to get it done, go for it.
Excuse me.
You got three of those correct, but you shut your damn mouth about taking my team outta my city.
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No kidding
At this point we should just send up the kids from A and AA since the AAA pitchers are apparently of no interest to Trey or Dayton.
by MinnesotaRoyal on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I Like The
Pitching machine option. Hell, even a tee might do better.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
I know where he is and might be seeing him Friday night
He and Andy Sisco are with the Giants AA club here in Richmond, the Flying Squirrels. My wife and I are headed to their second home game on Friday :)
by sterlingice on Apr 14, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember back when we thought
that Dayton was good at picking up cheap relievers?
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
Oops. That was more or less Will's first sentence of the post.
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
Where's HoRam when you need him.
Didn’t ever think I’d look back fondly on that 2009 bullpen. Just kidding……I think……
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