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Is Dave Owen Sending too Many Runners Home?

Dave Owen had gotten the nickname, The Windmill, for keeping the arm going and sending players home.  Looking back through the games from the beginning of season to April 17th, there was only 4 times a players was thrown out at home, 3 times trying to score from 2nd on a single and 1 time trying to score from 1st on a double.  Should we be worried about the number of times he is sending a player home?

First, here are the 2010 numbers when Dave sends a player home from 2B when a single was hit.  The Royals have had a player on 2nd 21 times when a 1B has been hit.  13 times they have scored, 5 times they have been stopped at 3B and 3 times they have been throw out at home.

To see if these numbers are acceptable, we must break out a Markov calculator.  If you are not familiar with one, it takes the team's (or league's) batting numbers and outputs what is the average run environment, how many runs and frequency a team on average should score considering the people on base and number of outs and the linear weights for each offensive event.  For this study, I used the 2009 league wide numbers to create my run environment.

Here is the run expectancy chart from the 2009 data:

Bases 0 outs 1 out 2 outs
xxx 0.531 0.284 0.106
1xx 0.958 0.558 0.231
x2x 1.116 0.695 0.338
xx3 1.370 0.938 0.369
12x 1.589 1.004 0.473
1x3 1.803 1.219 0.499
x23 1.960 1.357 0.606
123 2.466 1.718 0.802

This matrix shows each of the 24 possible out and runner position possibilities at any one time.  The 3 we want to look at for now are all outs for x2x (man on 2B), 1xx (man on 1B - for the single and score) and 1x3 (man on first and third). First we must assume that if a runner is on 2B and batter single they will make it to 3B safely.

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So here is a chart of the initial run expectancy (RE), runs if the runner scores, if the runner stays at 2B, and if the runner is thrown out.  Finally the break even success rate is given.  In this scenario the runner that singles stays on 1B.

Outs Starting RE Runs Safe at Home, 1xx RE 1x3 RE Thrown Out at Home RE Success Rate to Break Even
0 1.12 1.96 1.80 0.56 89%
1 0.70 1.56 1.22 0.23 74%
2 0.34 1.23 0.50 0.00 41%

Let's walk through 0 outs for an example.   The initial RE is 1.12 runs.    If the runner stops at 3B the RE jumps to 1.80 runs.  If the runner actually makes it home, only gains 0.16 runs on average.  The 1.96 runs comes from the run scored counting as a run and the runner on 1B with no outs counting as 0.96.  If the runner is thrown out at home, the RE drops to 0.56 or a loss of 1.25 runs if the runner had stayed at 3B.  To get the success rate you total runs lost (1.25) divided by the total runs lost and gained (1.25+0.16) times 100% to get the success rate of 89%. 

The third base coach needs to make sure the runner is going to make over 90% of the time to break even.  The percentage drops to about 75% with 1 out.  The success rate drops to 41% with two outs.  It is much tougher for the run to score since an out (pop-up or ground out) won't score the runner.  With 2 outs, it looks like even if there is a 50% of the runner being thrown out, the base coach should send the runner and they would come out ahead over the season.

Now, if there is a runner sent home and there is a play at the plate, the runner on first should be able to make it to second.  Here are the RE and success rate if the runner can make it to 2B.

x2x




Outs Starting RE Runs Safe at Home, x2x RE 1x3 RE Thrown Out at Home RE Success Rate to Break Even
0 1.12 2.12 1.80 0.70 78%
1 0.7 1.70 1.22 0.34 65%
2 0.34 1.34 0.50 0.00 37%

If the team gets the throw to come to the plate and get the runner to advance to 2B, they don't need to be as successful at home plate.  For the rest of my analysis I will use the first example.

One note with the above strategy, is that it could change on the batter/runner situation.  A soft single by Posednik may not score Butler from 2B, but a deep single by Butler (may a 2B if hitten by Podsednik) may easily score  Podsednik.  These simulations are not perfect for all situations, but will work for the average case.

So how is Dave Owen doing this year in sending batters?  Including all games up to 4/17 (did the research while listen to game on Sunday), the Royals had 21 people on base when the single was hit, 5 were held up at 3B and of the 13 sent home 3 where out at the plate (Link - look at the 2ndS, 2ndS3 and 2ndSH columns, the last 3).  This is a success rate of 81%.  Not good if it was with zero outs, but with 1 or 2 outs, the Royals are being sent home enough.

I went back through each game trying to find the out situation when the runners were sent home.  Of the 16 times the runner was sent home, I have found 15 of them.  Of the 3 times the batter was thrown out, there were 2 outs twice and 1 out once.  All of the 12 times the runner went home and was safe, it was each time with 2 outs.  Just looking at the above run scoring matrix, Dave Owens is doing a decent job of taking a chance and sending runners home, except for the time the runner got caught with 1 out.

The general rule I take away is that if the coach has a doubt the runner won't make, hold them up with 0 or 1 outs.  If there are 2 outs, get the windmill going.

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I decided to took at some past number of going home from 2B on a single.  Here is how the Royals have looked over the past 3+ years:

Year On 2B when 1B Hit Goes to 3B Makes it Home Outs Send Rate Percentage Safe at Home
2010 21 5 13 3 76% 81%
2009 177 64 105 8 64% 93%
2008 213 72 129 12 66% 91%
2007 192 77 107 8 60% 93%

If people have a feeling that Owen is sending people more often, they are correct.  It is about 10% more often than in past years.  Along with that increase, 10% more people are getting caught.  As I have shown previously, that is not necessarily bad since most of his sends are with 2 outs and there only needs to be 41% success rate.

Now here is the numbers from all MLB teams from the past 3+ years.

Year On 2B when 1B Hit Goes to 3B Makes it Home Outs Send Rate Percentage Safe at Home
2010 380 133 229 18 65% 93%
2009 5678 2177 3294 207 62% 94%
2008 5783 2146 3386 251 63% 93%
2007 5955 2210 3506 239 63% 94%

The Royals in the past 3 season have been fairly close to the league average Send Rate with a little less success being safe at home.  Now finally, here is how the current team stacks up using their lifetime numbers:

Name On 2B when 1B Hit Goes to 3B Makes it Home Outs Send Rate Percentage Safe at Home
Mike Aviles 23 4 17 2 83% 89%
Rick Ankiel 33 9 23 1 73% 96%
Scott Podsednik 126 37 84 5 71% 94%
Jose Guillen 168 52 105 11 69% 91%
Willie Bloomquist 77 24 50 3 69% 94%
Alberto Callaspo 38 12 24 2 68% 92%
Mitch Maier 19 6 11 2 68% 85%
David DeJesus 114 37 74 3 68% 96%
Jason Kendall 266 97 159 10 64% 94%
Chris Getz 29 11 17 1 62% 94%
Yuniesky Betancourt 98 39 56 3 60% 95%
Billy Butler 45 21 21 3 53% 88%
Brayan Pena 8 5 3 0 38% 100%
Totals 1044 354 644 46 66% 93%

The current team looks a tad bit better that the league average.  These numbers should not be considered a projection as there should be some regression to the mean, how much I am not sure of the numbers yet.

I am sure there will be a few questions, but there is my first stab at looking at the success rate needed to send runners home from 2B on a single.  I hope to sometime get to what the rate needs to be for a runner on 3B, 0 or 1 outs and there is a pop fly to the outfield.

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He's sending runners more often with 2 outs

because he’s used to them being stranded in previous years. Might as well hope for a terrible throw!

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by mazoboom on Apr 20, 2010 5:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Great information

I can’t believe that these numbers are showing Owen to be a competent third base coach. I basically refuse to accept this information.

Also, should the run expectancy numbers be adjusted for the fact that the Royals offense produces so few extra base hits? I ask this even though I fear that this makes it even more likely that Owens should send runners.

by KSinDC on Apr 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I have a hard time believing it, too

Wasn’t there a FanGraphs article not too long ago that showed the success rates and send rates of third-base coaches, only to show that Dave Owen is by far the worst? I can’t seem to find it and don’t remember how long ago it was posted, but I wonder why there is such a difference between that data and this data. Anything to enlighten me on why there might be that difference, Jeff?

by MinnesotaRoyal on Apr 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may have the worst success rate, but the success rate doesn't need to be that high for teams to come out ahead with 2 outs.

I have shown that he is less successful, but that he really isn’t costing us any additional runs by sending a few more runners. I think the key is sending them with 2 outs or 0 or 1outs.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 20, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I just found the article – an ESPN one in the offseason – that looked at success rates and sending rates, but only on sac flies. I just remembered it as something it wasn’t.

by MinnesotaRoyal on Apr 20, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, that is by the guy formally known as pizzacutter

Those number are close to what I have needing to 71% successful on sending with 1 out, but only 33% with 2 outs. I am looking at doing some ideal curves on this later using past success rates.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't trust that Pizza Cutter guy

Who names themselves after a kitchen utensil anyway…

by pizzacutter on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I went back through each game trying to find the out situation when the runners were sent home."

Were these all close plays or do these include more routine plays where the runner will make it quite easily? 15 such situations in 11 games seems a bit high.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 20, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

you should go to the TV replay

and judge the excitement level in Ryan’s voice…

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by buddyball on Apr 20, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff.

I assume that the relative strength of the on-deck batter also has to cross the coach’s mind. I’ve never seen a run expectancy chart that attempts to incorporate such data, and I suspect that the effect is smaller than your average third-base coach thinks it would be. But still, that might be an interesting question. (i.e. should the on-deck batter be a factor or should you ignore him for purposes of making this decision). Hmm, now that I’ve phrased it that way, that seems like something that could be a small chapter in “The Book.”

by kcemigre on Apr 20, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Seems like Owen has been much more conservative over the last week

There have been a few times where he held the runner at 3rd in what looked like an easy score.

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by Top Ramen on Apr 20, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

great article. hope you’ll update as the year continues.

by sfeldkamp on Apr 20, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

LMAO

…though I would prefer a gif of him with a static body and his arm just going around in circles.

by Justin Bopp on Apr 20, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I really need to fix this gif...

It absolutely drives me insane that I can’t get the Blue to stay blue.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 20, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for it.

I didn’t want to give away exactly why I wanted it in a game thread a while ago.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 20, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was needed regardless...

It really only took 15 minutes, and about an hour of banging my head on the wall. My friend who is a graphics major can’t figure out why it went from blue to gray either… I have an idea how to fix it though, and when I do I will re-upload it and it should take the place of the current picture.

Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell

by averagegatsby on Apr 20, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, just post a link here when you get it done.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 20, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think it has to do with the gif format

When I was making the Yuni “Good Hands” gif I ran into the same problem.

The picture looks fine in jpg format until it gets converted into a gif, which can’t store the same amount of color content.

Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Apr 21, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

gif

Check your gif compression settings and how many colors you are allowing. If it’s too heavy of a compression it will change your colors like that to save file space.

by TampaRoyal on Apr 22, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if everyone was as gritty as pods

we’d score every single time…

where's ross gload to explode the process?

by blue bandwagon on Apr 20, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

this is really good stuff

Am I reading the last graph right? He sends different people at different rates.

I like seeing that. Of course he would have a different tactic for different players, but seeing it in rate form is really cool.

I would like to add; SEND BRAYAN PENA ALL THE TIME 100% of the time he makes it!

You can’t teach speed!!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 20, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

That is just the players all time stats, no matter the team

I have made some more progress. Hopefully post within the week.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 20, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is quality stuff

but what column of the chart shows the times that Owen is windmilling someone home as they approach 3rd base and the outfielder already has the ball?

by Black and Gold on Apr 21, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

My biggest problem with Owen

is situational. Too many times he takes the chances when we need a multi run comeback. It seems he gets more conservative when we need one run (to tie, take the lead, or get an insurance run). I have also seen a couple of times this year when I KNEW we could not score in the batted ball right away, and was shocked that he tried. (One of these was opening day)

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by KHAZAD on Apr 24, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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