RCI Results - April 2010
I'm not going to sugarcoat this. The confidence of the Royals fanbase is at its lowest level in recorded history* (* - the recorded history of the RCI goes back two years). During the Dayton Moore era, fans have typically been somewhat optimistic going into the season, only to have their hopes violently dashed on the jagged rocks of reality. Not so this season. Compare these preseason RCI's:
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March 2008 |
6.99 |
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April 2009 |
6.34 |
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April 2010 |
4.17 |
The RCI has descended to a lowly 4.17. We're not optimistic and we're not happy. Compare the current RCI to the last recorded number back in May 2009. After a good first month, we were feeling pretty positive back then.
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May 2009 |
April 2010 |
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Team |
7.3 |
3.9 |
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Starting Pitching |
8.0* |
6.0 |
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Relief Pitching |
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4.6 |
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Hitting |
6.1 |
3.0 |
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Defense |
5.7 |
4.2 |
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Trey Hillman |
6.6 |
2.7 |
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Dayton Moore |
5.3 |
3.1 |
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Minors |
6.7 |
6.6 |
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Future |
7.7 |
5.0 |
* - number indicates a rating for pitching in general
The numbers are down across the board. Most of them are way down. The RCI for the team has been nearly halved. We were once fairly happy about the pitching and hitting. Not anymore. A once promising future is now seriously in doubt. What a difference 11 months make.
But the biggest turn around has been in the support for Dayton Moore and Trey Hillman. Cautious optimism and the benefit of the doubt have been replaced by contempt and ridicule. You can't say it hasn't been well earned. Compare their favorability ratings:
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May 2009 |
April 2010 |
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Dayton Moore |
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Strongly approve |
20.2% |
91.0% |
3.6% |
5.5% |
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Somewhat approve |
70.8% |
1.8% |
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Somewhat disapprove |
5.4% |
6.6% |
24.5% |
94.5% |
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Strongly disapprove |
1.2% |
70.0% |
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Don't know/No answer |
2.4% |
0.0% |
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Trey Hillman |
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Strongly approve |
2.4% |
43.8% |
0.0% |
3.6% |
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Somewhat approve |
41.4% |
3.6% |
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Somewhat disapprove |
44.3% |
51.4% |
50.9% |
94.5% |
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Strongly disapprove |
7.1% |
43.6% |
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Don't know/No answer |
4.8% |
1.8% |
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Total approval ratings of 5.5% for Moore and 3.6% for Hillman. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush laugh at those numbers. Moore's approval rating dropped from 91% to 5.5% in eleven months. A politician would have to rape a panda to make that happen. I guess this is what happens when an awful offseason doesn't pan out, and then you add a horrendous midseason trade, followed by another crappy offseason. Honeymoon, over.
There has been a similar shift in the right track/wrong direction numbers:
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May 2009 |
April 2010 |
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Going in the right direction |
97.6% |
18.5% |
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On the wrong track |
2.4% |
72.2% |
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Don't know/no answer |
0.0% |
9.3% |
The prevailing sentiment is that the ship is sinking, if it was ever afloat. And now, the rest of your RCI answers.
D. When do you think Trey Hillman will be fired?
1. During the 2010 season - 14%
2. This coming offseason - 42%
3. During the 2011 season - 21%
4. In the offseason after the 2011 season - 16%
5. Sometime after the start of the 2012 season - 2%
6. He won’t be fired for several years. He’s going to get a multi-year contract extension. - 5%
E. How many games do you think Zack Greinke will win this year?
16.6
F. Which team is going to win the AL Central this year?
Minnesota 70%
Chicago 16%
Detroit 9%
Kansas City 4%
Cleveland 2 %
G. How many games will the following players play for the Royals this season?
Jason Kendall - 116
Yuniesky Betancourt - 85
Mike Aviles - 107
Alberto Callaspo - 121
H. Who will make the fifth highest number of pitching starts for the Royals this year (assuming that 1-4 are Greinke, Meche, Bannister and Hochevar)?
Kyle Davies 64%
Aaron Crow 15%
Robinson Tejeda 13%
Other 2%
I. What kind of a chance do the Royals have of making the playoffs this year? (give a percentage: 0%-100%)
6.5%
J. What is your best estimate of how many games the Royals will win in 2010?
70.6
And then hopefully something to make us smile
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wow
what a turn around on supporting dayton
it’s hard to even remember when we had his back that much
If you end up being right, it will be impressive that you were one of the few who made the call
Quite frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if any of four teams won this division.
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by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This may be one of the best quotes I've seen on this site
A politician would have to rape a panda to make that happen.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 6, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ditto
Although I feel scuzzy for having laughed so heartily at it.
I really wish I would have known my life as a fan would peak in October 1985. Savor the moment, kids.
Now that the season has begun, I’m bringing my A game.
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by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
Bravo
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 6, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
At first when seeing those numbers
It was kinda like this:

But then the pic of your child came up, and I am entirely happy now….for the Royals prospects no, but happy in general.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 6, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
I think the passenger
trusted the driver’s process a little too much.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 6, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr Glass was the passenger
interesting concept sir!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 6, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
70.6?
That is the most surprising number to me. How will this team improve 5-6 wins over last year? I mean, short of bringing back Nick Swartz to assure an early end of the season for Guillen, Betancourt, Bloomquist, et al.
I really wish I would have known my life as a fan would peak in October 1985. Savor the moment, kids.
Fewer games lost to injury and regresion to the mean
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And Kendall making everyone around him better.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
Isn’t the mean 48?
I really wish I would have known my life as a fan would peak in October 1985. Savor the moment, kids.
by chiefstatnut on Apr 6, 2010 9:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And not as much forcing of the envelope as last year
Just playing better baseball, basically.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 6, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no way this team wins 70 games
not going to happen.
where's ross gload to explode the process?
by blue bandwagon on Apr 6, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
this is really sad
I wish there was a way that we could make the discontent of the fans visible to someone in the F.O. that would actually give a damn. Not someone who would just tell us we are being impatient and just don’t understand how things work.
Where does the talent of Royals prospects go? I imagine a man in Germany shouting "Why can I play baseball so well? WHY?" - Joe Posnanski
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Apr 6, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I think the problem lies
in that the general discontent of the online message board fan probably doesn’t represent the level of anger of your Joe Average “KC Star Commenter” fan.
To us, Podsednik, Ankiel, Yu-Bet, etc. look like crappy pickups. To the casual fan though, they represent names they’ve heard of, so it looks like progress. And if (when) it fails, it was because injuries and underperformance, not that the underlying process was fatally flawed.
Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Apr 6, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think all the casual fan knows or cares about is the wins and losses
If the team is winning, he’s happy. If not, he’s unhappy. This has been a losing team for a while now, including every season under Moore and Hillman. I think even the casual fans are angry.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its clear
The only people they listen to is season ticket holders. If they even listen to them.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Luckily the mood of the online fanbase
won’t have much bearing on the team’s success. Color me crazy, but I think management could be improving in their decision making. Sure, the Yuni trade, representing our all-time low point, was less than a year ago, but they didn’t make any moves this offseason that I strongly disagreed with. They spun their wheels a bit with Kendall and Podsednik, but I just can’t bring myself to care that much. Go Royals. Play Aviles and bring up Crow.
I think management could be improving in their decision making
but they didn’t make any moves this offseason that I strongly disagreed with. They spun their wheels a bit with Kendall and Podsednik, but I just can’t bring myself to care that much
This offseason proved that the FO’s decision making isn’t getting any better. Signing Kendall and Podsednik is not “spinning their wheels.” It is proof that they don’t evaluate talent well, and they don’t know how to place an appropriate dollar and year value on talent. There were better options than Kendall, and they go out and give him multiple millions for two guaranteed years. That’s an horrendously stupid decision making process. There were MANY better, cheap OF options, but they go out and get Podsednik, Anderson and Ankiel. More stupidity.
If anything, they are getting worse as they go. When Moore has more money to spend, you’re really going to see some spectacular stupidity.
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by Scott McKinney on Apr 6, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but neither signing is anywhere close to Guillen or Yuni. Maybe that’s just because DM didn’t have an opportunity to throw $40 mil at a past-his-prime former slugger, but I’m gonna choose to instead believe that DM has recognized his mistakes.
If by "spun their wheels"
you mean “spent $7.75M on two players that are very likely worse than the younger, cheaper options already in the organization that they will end up blocking”…then I wholeheartedly agree with you.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 6, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If Anything, Moore
Spun the wheels clear off the bandwagon.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 6, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
NYKatie
the brightest spot for following the Royals this season.
Even Greinke starts will not make me smile as much as that pic above. Because sometime the Royals bullpen hates Greinke and they do what they do.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 6, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The Boppy
I see it in the background of the NYKatie pic. Those things are invaluable. Wish I could come up with something so simple that made millions.
Yes, Mrs. NYRoyal couldn’t live without it.
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by Scott McKinney on Apr 7, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions
it is just a mixture of laughter and sadness at this point
i know that DM has made more than his share of mistakes, but god damn it would be nice to have a few things go our way. and yes, i am conveniently forgetting that we have one pitcher who is arguably the best in the game, another steal of a find in the rule 5 draft, and a first baseman who seems to actually be fulfilling his promise.
i’m at the point where i just want a competitive team that doesn’t routinely embarrass the city, is that too much to ask? is it really that hard to reach mediocrity, even in an industry as competitive as baseball?
"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Apr 7, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
I'd just kill
because the voice in my head tells me to.
(It sounds a lot like Rick Ankiel, fwiw)
by Crooow on Apr 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wouldn't happen to be your dog Sam, would it?
It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.
Farnsy?
Didn’t he have an imaginary friend that talked to him and told Farnsworths dogs to bit his hand?
Or did the voice tell Davies to punch a hole in the wall?
I forgot.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 7, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Freel.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
right?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Frisbee Left, But
Farny stayed. He drinks cheap whiskey with Colt Griffin behind the fountains during home games.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Lack of baseball talent
outweighs regression to the mean. That 70+ win average is way too optimistic for words. There’s a reason I changed my sig line.
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. -- Albert Einstein
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