Chris Getz?

by kcdc1 on Apr 8, 2010 11:32 AM EDT

Is anyone else impressed with Getz so far? I was pretty unexcited when the Royals acquired him (although I thought it was a good move since Teahen's usefulness with the Royals was clearly expiring) but looking again now, I think he may have been a really good pick-up. Getz walks a good amount (projected 8% of his PA's this year which is a TON for a Royal), and he hit .299 and .302 in 2007 and 2008 in the minors. His BA dropped down to .260 in 2009, his MLB rookie year, but his BB% and K% were pretty decent and only took small steps back from his minor league numbers. If he can cut down on a few strikeouts and bring his BABIP back up closer to where it was in the minors, he could consistently be a .350 OBP guy. He also had 25 SB's against only 2 CS's last year. While an above-average OBP and good baserunning won't make him an All-Star, it would certainly make him a valuable player at 2B, and would seem to make the Teahen trade a great success when factoring in player value, salary and service time. Is anyone else finding themselves warming up to Getz?

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Yes, I am definitely warming to Getz

But now we need to find a replacement for the Mark Teahen show

by Boots 58 on Apr 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions

the Banny Show

by AtTheWall on Apr 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Its the kind of player DM needs to take a flyer on

No more Pods, Kendall, Ankiel. Bring in young guys who need a chance. I agree, Getz, IF he can play decent defense and IF he can keep his OBA around .330 – .340 and IF he can continue to steal bases at a 75% success rate could equal a pretty valuable guy for us.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions

Those look like very reachable goals

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see above average defense, .340+ OBP and 80+% steal success rate from Getz this year. Again, not an All-Star, but a good piece for the team.

by kcdc1 on Apr 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions

The problem is that...

…most GMs are not as, um, unintelligent(?) as Kenny Williams. I consistently find his decision-making erratic.

"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.

by timlacy on Apr 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd rather have Kenny Williams erratic

than GMDM’s predictability.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Apr 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, more years of team control

young players Dayton. young!

by AtTheWall on Apr 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Did anyone really dislike the Teahen deal?

Teahen was about to be non-tendered, and Getz, while having a pretty low upside, projected to be close to be at least a near average 2B (depending on how the defense played out).

by Gopherballs on Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions

I don't remember a lot of people disliking it

but I thought a lot of us were lukewarm on it. I remember most of us looking at it as a meh player being traded for two slightly younger meh players. I think it was also widely considered that Teahen was clearly the best player in the deal, but his larger salary and longer service time made him less valuable to the Royals than the two younger guys.

As I’m looking at it now tho, I think Getz might prove to be significantly more than a meh player for the Royals. If Getz can just bat .285, which his minor league numbers suggest that he could be capable of, and play solid defense, he could be a building block for this team. I really think that in a year or two, people may look back on the Getz trade as being as much of a success as the Callaspo and Bannister trades.

by kcdc1 on Apr 8, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree those trades have been successes

Not sure “guys who have a chance at being league average” (at the time of the trades) are what I’d call “building blocks,” though.

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by Matt Klaassen on Apr 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

In Kansas City

they’re monoliths.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, 'league average' vs 'building blocks' is a choice of semantics

but the nice thing about having a league average player with multiple years of cheap team control is that it’s one less position you that you have to fix. 1B and 3B are covered with Billy and Callaspo/Gordon. Aviles looks like he could hold down SS with league average production. And 2B with Getz…..this could be an above average infield?

by kcdc1 on Apr 8, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

overall, I think league average is possible

Gordon and Butler are probably above average overall. Getz and Aviles are bigger questions. They’re both at least decent stopgaps.

As far as defense goes, Gordon is all over the place, probably around Average. Butler is Butler. I’m not sure whether Getz really is a plus defender, he might just seem like it given our recent experience.

Aviles is the best shortstop on the ROyals, but even if his defense is average, I think, realistically, his bat isn’t enough to make him an average player, but maybe. It would be nice if he’d get a shot to prove it.

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by Matt Klaassen on Apr 8, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Not sure disliked is the right way to describe it,

I remember a lot of people wondering what the trade would do to Callaspo.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Apr 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, that's why I disliked it, but I am warming to Getz

Hope he can keep getting on base.

by AxDxMx on Apr 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe he's just starting to getz how to play in the major leagues

by Boots 58 on Apr 8, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions

yeah, plus it can't hurt that

he’s still in the AL Central. more reps with the same pitching staffs

by AtTheWall on Apr 8, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't forget how Bloomquist was looking about this time last year

not saying Getz can’t continue to play as well as he’s played so far, just saying that two games does not a season make.

Bloomquist, OPS+, 2009
April……130
May……..85
June……61
July……..96
August..17
Sept ….110

from b-ref

Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "Yes, comets! The icebergs of the sky. By jackknifing from one to the next at breakneck speed, we might just get some kinda gravity boost". and also "Kif old friend, I don't know which disgusts me more. Your cowardice or your stupidity! We'll simply set a new course for that empty region over there. Near that black-ish hole-ish thing."

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 8, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions

Don't forget Mike Jacobs!

wRC+ (wOBA, park adjusted and normalized to 100), 2009)

April 103
May 116
June 48
July 53
August 97
September 69

Again… 100 is average… Wow, never realized that even when he was “good” last season, he wasn’t that good.

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by Matt Klaassen on Apr 8, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

The difference between Getz and Bloomy/Jacobs

is of course defense and the fact that his past numbers lend support to the argument that he’ll be at least a decent player. If he exceeds expectations, he’ll be good, whereas if Bloomy/Jacobs had exceeded expectations, they’d be passable.

by kcdc1 on Apr 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I will never forget Mike Jacobs

batter nine you sucky

by marbotty on Apr 9, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions

is that a misprint?

17 in august?

by Dadunca on Apr 8, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

oh no, that's legit

84 AB, 15 hits, 3 BB .179/.207/.238 .445 OPS

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 8, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha

You forgot how bad he was.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Apr 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Never had a problem with the Getz acquisition in a vacuum,

but was puzzled that some other move(s) didn’t follow. I’m speaking specifically about a plan for Callaspo. They didn’t have one, and Callaspo is evidently the 2nd best hitter on the team, still relatively young, cost controlled, and good enough to be given the most sacred spot in the batting order (3rd). Given all that, you would have thought that acquiring Getz would have meant that they would have:

A) had an idea what position Callaspo would move to,

B) trade or release somebody to open a postion for Callaspo’s bat at some position where his defense wasn’t a liability

This situation is arguably complicated by the relative inability of the current manager to be creative enough to use his roster inventory intelligently in the first place

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Apr 8, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions

I'm thinking LF

Gordon at third, Aviles short, Getz second, Butler first. DH Kila, then find someone to man CF and RF. Although I doubt GMDM could manage to find anyone useful. Still, there may actually be some semblance of a plan hidden in here. That right there is an average team at worst with our pitching, and if everything plays out, above average to competitive in the Central.

by JoCro on Apr 8, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

DDJ In CF

And Mitch in RF would give us passable OF defense. Split time with Brena and Kendall, Keep Bloomers and Fields and talk Brandy out of sabotaging his MLB career to be the 4th OF. Either that or keep Podzilla as the 4th OF. There, that wasn’t so hard. Now the bullpen………….

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by philofthenorth on Apr 8, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions