Kendall Isn't The Only Player The Royals Have Locked Into The Lineup
During the early weeks of the Moore era, one of the talking points that got out was that "the days of giving guys scholarships was over". These were the days of many a story about how Moore was bringing respectability/professionalism/a culture of winning to the Royals. Like much sports jargon, the phrase wasn't particularly helpful, injecting a confusing and inaccurate analogy where it wasn't needed. Anyway, the general meaning was that nothing was going to be given, everyone was going to have to earn their jobs, earn their playing time, earn their money. After a fast start, this didn't really end up being the case, and certainly not with Dayton Moore's own guys. Just like most teams, the Royals have found it much easier to stick with what they know, culminating in last year's bizarre decision to basically pass on bringing in any real September call-ups.
I've whined quite a bit about the team's curious Jason Kendall fetish, but looking at the team stats today, I noticed that the Royals have been on auto-pilot all season when it comes to filing out the lineup card. At six lineup positions, the Royals have started someone at least 42 times through the first 45 games. (Hillman & Yost have only made a handful of in-game substitutions, so we don't lose much just by looking at games started.)
Catcher: 43 starts for Kendall, 2 for Pena
First Base: 44 starts for Butler, 1 for Kila
Shortstop: 43 starts for Betancourt, 2 for Aviles
Left-Field: 42 starts for Podsednik, 2 for MITCH, 1 for Bloomquist
Right-Field: 42 starts for DeJesus, 1 for Guillen, 1 for Bloomquist, 1 for Mitch
Designated Hitter: 43 starts for Guillen, 1 for Butler, 1 for DeJesus
Part of what's going on here is the team's decision to carry an 8-man bullpen, which, obviously, has done wonders for the team.
Then again, is the enlarged bullpen/short bench the cause or effect here? Perhaps the Royals just feel that there's no one else, amongst position players, that they'd like to have around. Really, it's up to you. Do you want the snarky comment about the 8-man pen, or the snarky comment about the lineup being just fine?
The primary problem here, is, of course, Mike Aviles. Aviles has still only started 16 games this season. Its tempting to say the Royals are nursing Aviles back into the lineup, but at the point at which they seemingly refuse to do that with other players, I'm hesitant to say that's the case. Where was that patience with Alex Gordon or Gil Meche? I suppose I should just be happy that Aviles is even playing at all.
The secondary problem is one of complacency and... well, I don't know if its intellectual laziness or a lack of attention to detail or what. Whatever it is, what I see in the list above is irksome. When it's one or two cases ("Kendall is warrior, he plays everyday" or "we need to have Billy at first daily for his development") I can understand it.
But when, and I hate to come back to this, you have Guillen as the starting DH 43 out of 45 times it sure as hell looks like an environment dominated by smug lassitude. It isn't just about Aviles, or Kila, or Pena getting playing time... it's about using your bench and the DH to keep players fresh, about thinking about various matchups, even about doling out the kind of petty rewards and punishments that matter in baseball culture.
Yuniesky Betancourt has started 43 of 45 games (95.5%), while Derek Jeter has started 40 of 44 games (91%). You can play this game all over the roster. Pick a Royal tenured starter, then think of the best player in baseball at that position, then see who starts more.
I guess that while I fancy myself an iconoclast, when I see the Royals doing things that no other team does, I see a red flag, because we know they aren't innovators. They don't want to be. So that only leaves...
Now maybe I'm just so beaten down and cynical that I've lost all perspective. I'll admit we're talking about numbers on the margins here. However, those marginal differences are important over a long season.
The truth is, the Royals don't have a functional roster and haven't all season. In baseball logic, with the short bench, the Royals are damn near paralyzed right now, somehow locked into a quandry where Aviles (who is actually good) and Getz (an ill-chosen golden boy) are competing with one another for playing time. Someone wake the bosses up and tell them it's nearly June. Let them know that there are actually position players at Omaha, and that we need a backup middle infielder who can actually play SS if needed.
What the Royals are doing isn't working.
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by BHWick on May 25, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we need a backup middle infielder who can actually play SS if needed
Aviles doesn’t count as able to play SS?
Maybe that’s just nitpicking. Dont get me wrong, Im not happy with the lineup at all myself.
Aviles counts
Betancourt doesn’t
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm just going off of what the royals are giving me
they appear to either hate aviles at SS or think that he’ll break his arm dravechy style if he throws from there
so am i wrong to think that all ofthis is a little weird/extreme?
or am I so far gone that I see problems everywhere
maybe this is just unusual for KC
this team is unusually healthy
aside from Ankiel (remember when DM blamed our 2009 problems on injuries, and then got Podsednik and Ankiel)
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you're not wrong
But the weird/extreme comes more from the stubborn carrying of 13 pitchers and the exceedingly inflexible roster construction of Moore than it does from the day-to-day decisions on who to start by the managers.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
worst bench in baseball!
a) a catcher we can’t/won’t play
b) bloomy
c) Aviles, who we also won’t PH with because he’s the emergency backup infielder
what's really odd (and I realize we are only 30% thru this season)
Somehow, the offense has been nearly league avg (and actually above avg OBP and SLG) – but the pitching has been the big drag, ranking last most of the season in ERA.
Maybe they should carry 14 or 15 pitchers instead of merely 13.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
and it's disturbing, because
“we’re gonna win with pitching and defense” GMDM, circa winter 2009
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
I don't understand the 8 man bullpen
when the royals have a fairly stable starting rotation
no starter has missed start, and most are going reasonably deep into games
Soria might have to go two days in a row with only 7 guys in there
which would cause the Yuniverse to explode
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
for april
it took at least 6 pitchers to close the 7th inning.
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by who am i? on May 25, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good point.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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16 pitchers
no more of this starter-bullpen crap. Let’s innovate. We rotate thru the 16 pitchers for “starts” LImit each pitcher to 4 outs.. only when really neccessary… otherwise 3 is ideal.
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yet
Ankeil PH TWICE and struck out for the final out after being injured and not playing for about 10 days. I think that one was overlooked in the litany of signs trey hillman wants to move back to texas
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Will, you could have summed it all up with just that last paragraph.
“The Royals don’t have a functional roster”
This is on Moore. You can add not acquiring a right handed hitting OF to the list of causes – apparently they really did decide Guillen would DH only, so Moore should have acquired a RH outfielder instead of Ankiel or Podsednik. As for catcher – if you really don’t believe in B Pena, then they should have simply resigned Buck or, alternatively, gone for a defense-first catcher to go along with Kendall.
As for middle infield, I think we would all like to see them try Aviles-Getz, and Aviles has said his arm is good enough to play SS or 3B, but they are apparently convinced that Yuni is good or something. He is “less bad” than last season, but still bad, and Getz still deserves more than 50 PA before we conclude he won’t develop into anything.
I’m hoping Guillen’s bat will allow for some dumb manager to trade for him by the AS break, freeing up a spot for Kila. Not holding my breath on this one. My nightmare – they keep him, and somehow he manages to stay hot and breaks Balboni’s HR record.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
You really have to wonder how much this
is being stubborn how much is stupidity. I realize that one blends into the other… it’s stupidity if they think Betancourt is “better” than Aviles, or that they’ve seen all they need to see from Getz. Or that either Getz or Betancourt (and now add Podsednik and Maier to that list) should play ahead of Gordon. That would be stubborn stupidity.
Or is it stupidly stubborn? “We have to justify the massively embarrassing Betancourt trade, the Kendall and Podsednik signings! If we only play the other guys sporadically, the fans will never be able to tell who is better.”
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the entire Moore era reminds me of the old "Happy Days" episode,
where Fonzi knows he was wrong, but literally can’t say the word.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
Will, they've benched one of the 6 guys you mentioned in that post
DeJesus to the bench, Bloomquist starting in RF
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Ned Yost is shaking things up
DeJesus obviously has been killing this team. Bloomy is the answer to the “will Yost be better than Hillman” question.
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, Will
we must have been channeling each other’s thoughts there
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
But He Hit
A HR, so he must be heating up
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i really wouldn't be able to take that
it would routinely piss me off to see him in the starting lineup. i have a hard enough time stomaching the fact that he’s on the roster.
I'm with you, man
No matter where Bloomers plays, he’s going to be a worse hitter than whoever is playing that position on the other team. He’s an automatic minus.
I'm assuming it was DDJ's "turn"
Yost gave Maier a day off Saturday, Pod on Sunday; perhaps he was simply planning to give each OF a day off in turn.
Now, it would be better if we had a backup OF who could actually, you know, play OF defense and hit a little bit like an OF!
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
Or more than one starter who could do something like that
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
this way St. Willie could play every game
but nobody would notice. tricksy GMDM/Yost
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Now, it would be better if we had a backup OF who could actually, you know, play OF defense ANDhit a little bit like an OF!
Heck.. I would take OR
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We Do, But
He’s the regular LF.
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Those damn off days that MLB takes care of must not count.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Bloomquist should never start 3 games in a row
for any team that pays it’s players. Unbelievable.
by Black and Gold on May 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The good news is that Ned Yost is well known for playing and developing young players so this is all going to change any day now.
But um, when is Yost going to start figuring out who the younger players are?
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By association?
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it make me a bad fan
If I wish that he is traded to an AL Central team and then completely owns the Royals (and baseball) for the rest of his career,?
except that he's going to get booed mercilously at the K
and I’d rather not deal with that 9 times a season
I'd have to say no
I have a sick fantasy where we trade Gordon for a toolsy, low OBP, not that young shortstop prospect.
My feelings on the Royals are all turned around right now.
I still have super high hopes for Gordon...
and I think I am all alone on that.
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He's Never Done
Anything to suggest he won’t at least be a good MLB player with the potential to be an elite talent. Unless, of course, you blame him for injuries.
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
I just still expect him to get into a few All-Star games, and I don’t think many would agree with that.
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Then again...
I still think Rex Grossman can be a good starting QB.
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He Can Throw
It through a brick wall………..if he can hit it.
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He can hit it...if he can stand up.
Though, he’s never played for a team that could keep him up.
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me also, as well, too, ditto
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by Discodave on May 25, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I do as well
Somewhere in there, I think there’s a slightly lower rent version of Ryan Zimmerman waiting to play 3B
The one problem I see is that while Zim keeps getting better
Alex keeps rotting in Omaha without any chance to improve his game
If they could fix that "little" problem
I could see a Butler-Gordon 3-4 in the lineup doing some real damage if they got a chance to play together. Even Gordon at 6 could be quite good
Seriously?
Is there anyone left who thinks Dayton Moore deserves anything more than his severance at this point?
Seriously, journalists, blogger, if you believe this, please justify it with something other than ass-kissing platitudes.
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i heart process
where's ross gload to explode the process?
by blue bandwagon on May 25, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sweet, no?
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by philofthenorth on May 25, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Betemit is going to the Pen
Bullington is going to be converted to a utility infielder
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by who am i? on May 25, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Welcome Mr. Betemit
Enjoy your role as the new Designated Sitter.
by Black and Gold on May 25, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no joke though
what do you think those two say to each other in Omaha
“what the hell. you gotta be kidding me. what do we have to do?!?”
by AtTheWall on May 25, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maier to keep CF job over Ankiel
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
Are there as many line up strategies as manager?. I'd probably
avoid criticising Yost’s lineups until he establishes a pattern. The argument could be made that Bloomquist is a pretty decent offensive bat off the bench, and that if you’re going to rest players and use Bloomquist you keep your #1 sub—Bloomquist—sharp by giving him consecutive games instead of—ala Hillman—shot gun starts. Yost made one miserable move over the weekend—that was bringing in Dusty Hughes Saturday in a one run game where he was also going to use Tejada and Thompson. A more perceptive intuitive manager would never put a weak looking (both genetically and the obvious lack of weight room work by Hughes) in that situation. Lost a ball game a more intuitive manager could have won. Yost’s quota as I understand it is only 3 losses, and we already have one. Two to go.
the argument could be made that Bloomquist is a pretty decent offensive bat off the bench
No it couldn’t.
The only way...
that Bloomquist’s bat could be considered “pretty decent” is if Billy Butler borrowed it for his at-bats.
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by aHorseWithNoName on May 25, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
How many Bloomquist starts in a row makes a pattern?
how ’bout Kendall?
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
you have bloomquist, getz, or guillen for the OF, which do u want?
Yost will put an OF sub on the team soon. Kendall is playing well and hitting .283. , Personally, he’d be splitting time with Pena in open competition. But, again, there’s a lot of ways to play things, and while Kendall is about .280 and wants to play, i’ll lay off Yost on this one. Below .280, then i get the point . and, in saying that did forget (for a moment) that BA is irrelevant. I prefer Kendall to Buck or Olivo, and it’s other than close.
"other than close," indeed
2010 stats:
Kendall: .283/.347/.336, .310 wOBA
Olivo: .283/.346/.540, .381 wOBA
Buck: .268/.321/.553, .375 wOBA
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
and, what are projected stats projected for
10/1/10? Reasonable to believe, on past performance, that Buck BA will be above his weight on that day. “Coors Field” factored into stats?. or 5 years of Buck/Olivo high praise on this site? I’ll take Kendall and his .280 rally continuing type of statistics and leave gladly leave the strike out artists to other team. It’s the new thing!
In most cases, outs are outs...
and it doesn’t matter how a player makes them. A weak grounder to short is still an out. Note that I said “most” cases.
“Rally continuing?” Considering that Kendall has only scored 10 runs and has only 8 RBI (on pace for 30!), he can’t have continued too many rallies so far. I’m not the biggest fan of Buck, but he does have 3 times as many RBI in about 30 fewer PAs. Even Yuni has twice as many as Kendall.
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by aHorseWithNoName on May 25, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The exception that you allude to being...
GIDP! Kendall doesn’t ever do that though, cause he’s a rally continuing type.
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unknown if I entirely agree with you horse that an out is an out. nor have
i bothered to detail Kendall’s GIDP. is he leading the league or something in that stat? possibly the catchers? but, its an interesting argument for an old fellow as myself who appreciates BA more than sprinkling the line up with Pat Burrell or Adam Dunn types. i’ll prefer Matty Alou myself. The Kendall/spork debate will continue, without a doubt.
I like high batting average guys too...
and I suspect almost everyone will agree with you. However, OBP is a bit more important…and the people who are good at both are usually expensive. So, if we have to pick one…well, it makes sense to go with OBP.
The Adam Dunn types are very good players who may be a bit cheaper than a similar player with a high BA. It’s not like we want low BA people, we just want to maximize our dollar. Kendall isn’t that type of player, anymore.
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Are you for real?
Like, seriously?
I think you are a clever parody of every old school, BS concept that the Royals seem to love.
If that is the case, well done.
He looks genetically weak?
So hitters will do better cause they aren’t scared of him or something? I am confused about that one
Are we Lost?
Maybe when we all realize we’ve been dead trying to figure out how this team will win, GMDM will let us move on. Maybe that’s the ‘process’?
by Edward Rowe on May 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think "The Process" involves my wrist and a knife...
which would be more enjoyable than watching this team regularly.
by Bart41 on May 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
in my will
i request to be cryogenically frozen until they find a cure for Royals ineptitude
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I suggest you purchase a perpetuity to pay your cryo bills.
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by chiefstatnut on May 25, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck question...
It seems like Buck is hitting better so far…just like he randomly did a few years ago.
I remember that the reason he was hitting better a few years ago is that he changed his step, but the Royals were unhappy with his hitting in scoring position. So, they made him change it again and then he started sucking.
Does anyone know if he moved back to the step he had when he was successful?
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Its called not playing for the Royals
http://www.royalskingdom.blogspot.com
there was recent post on fangraphs
about how the jays are being super aggresive at the plate, including buck
don’t know about his step
I remember being extremely pissed...
that they made him change his motion (a second time in a few months) for such a flimsy reason. He was destroying the ball, but that small sample of RISP made them change it…and he was never the same.
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I know in TOR
he was really struggling to start this year, then he had some pre=BP session with Cito and/or the hitting coach, and that night he had a homer, or that might even have been his 3 HR name, not sure which. Probably a bit of a coincidence, but he’s always been able to hit ‘em hard when he’s got them into the air.
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by Matt Klaassen on May 25, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck's O-Swing is up to almost 40%
So I’m guessing that the pitchers are going to adjust soon, hopefully for his sake he will, too.
ZiPS sees him as a .321 wOBA hitter, which is good for a catcher, and ending the season with a .342 wOBA, which is above average, period, so while his defense really is bad, he’ll probably end the season as an above-average player overall.
I love Kendall being on a hot streak to start the season and having a .310 wOBA. just perfect
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