Trey Hillman's future

Let him run out his contract. Appoint someone else to fail to polish turds in the offseason.

hillman has done a lot of stupid things and he seems to be getting worse. the 128 pitches by meche just borders on insanity (actually it is insanity by definition).

i get that we are maybe a 75-win team, which still sucks but is at least somewhat respectable. hillman has actively taken wins away from this team in a number of instances.

however, once moore fires hillman, he’s going to be on the clock, b/c i don’t see him making it past another manager with the way the team is going…at some point (soon), moore’s plan/process has to show actual results at the major-league level.

Really? What will it accomplish? We will still suck and lose and it will only buy Dayton more time because “you have to be patient with the new skipper”. I don’t understand Meche throwing 128. That does seem stupid, but won’t the next guy just do the same thing? Casey Stengall wouldn’t make this team a contender. Giving a great manager shitty players won’t work. Ned Yost or John Gibbons will fail too.

Get Davey Johnson to come out of retirement.
http://miscbaseball.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/davey-johnson-the-mets-and-sabermetrics/

In fact, after he retired as a player in the 1960s, Johnson went to work selling computers for Litton Industries. He introduced the computer to minor league baseball when he managed the Tidewater Tides in 1983. By then, Johnson had read "The Hidden Game of Baseball" (about exotic statistics), "Computer Baseball" and Ernshaw Cook’s highly regarded "Percentage Baseball." Johnson has added such phrases as "favorable chance derivation" and "upslope of the sine curve" to baseball’s lexi-con and perhaps its lore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davey_Johnson

He attended the Johns Hopkins University in addition to Texas A&M, and graduated from Trinity University in 1964 with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. 1 He was known for taking a statistical approach to baseball.

I could be behind firing Hillman just because Gibbons will win more games this season than Trey would the Royals get a jump on hiring for 2011. Those are good enough reasons in and of themselves.

However, I’m having a hard time justifying the need to give Gibbons a “tryout”. For what reasons does he need a tryout? Do we want to see if he can avoid having a confrontation with a player for 120 games? He is a known quantity. 2004-2008 is enough of a track record. Do people think he has changed substantially?

He gave TPJ an IBB to pitch to Dejesus.

There is a reason he is no longer coaching.

Hillman needs to be fired now. No question about it

Hillman may hurt the team by not playing (or lobbying for playing, if GMDM is mandating who plays) the younger players more, but GMDM is tied to Hillman — the longer GMDM sticks with a manager that hurts the team’s record, the worse GMDM looks and the sooner he is gone. While innocent bystanders like Kila and Aviles may get the short end of the stick, Hillman is not costing the team Division titles or anything like that, so if he helps GMDM find the door faster, then keep him on as long as necessary.

went on a two hour segment about Hillman probably needing to be fired. Didn’t come right out and say it but pretty close. Pretty much just an attack on the Royals whole organization, well deserved too.

My fear would be that the team mildly improves under Gibbons, as most teams with interim managers do, and the Royals mistake that for real improvement, and hand Gibbons the job full-time next year.