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Anyone thought about what realignment does to MU baseball?
All the uncertainty can only help the Royals sign Adam. No?
I hadn't thought of that, but that's probably right
It could really disrupt signings for KU, KState, and Mizzou since they seem to be the biggest ones left out in the cold here. I think it does potentially help to get Adam signed, but I don’t know how likely it was that we would sign him to begin with. The kid has a lot of potential, so it would be nice to get him into the system, but with the near future of Mizzou athletics potentially up in the air, who knows what will happen.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
the kid needs to get the sales job that by his junior/senior year, Missouri might be in a less prominent baseball conference. If it’s the Big 10, then less scouts, more possibility of rainouts, worse overall weather, and he may not match his draft pick if he goes to Mizzou.
The Big 12 has 10 baseball members (Colorado & Iowa State don’t have baseball). The Big 10 has 10 baseball members (Wisconsin doesn’t have baseball). The Pac 10 has 9 baseball members (Oregon doesn’t have baseball).
As for KU/K-State, The Mt. West and Conf USA just don’t bring it, baseball-wise
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CUSA isn't too shabby
Rice has a great program and Houston, Tulane, USM and East Carolina have all had varying degrees of success.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
there would be a bit of travel for every game for KU or K-State in CUSA baseball. Tulsa hasn’t had baseball since the 1970s. The closest baseball school is Memphis.
Mt. West isn’t too helpful with schools near Kansas. No baseball at Colorado State, Wyoming, for example.
The overall travel costs is going to kill a lot of less prominent programs like baseball for some schools.
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CUSA
Didn’t I get killed on here yesterday for suggesting CUSA? The worst travel in CUSA would probably be East Carolina for any of these schools. I think they all fit in pretty good in that league football wise too. Basketball is probably another story all together. All of the forgotten schools looking to be leftovers from the Big 12 are pretty good in basketball. Iowa State being the worst of whats left. I have to say though, I bet Mike Anderson at MU is on suicide watch right now for not taking the Oregon gig. Kinda funny really.
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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jun 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oregon has baseball now
they started either last year or the year before and made the tourney this season
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damnit
someone go to Wikipedia and update their map
UMKC is gonna have baseball in 2012, adding another sport where they’ll lose in. Although the travel will suck if they’re in the Mid-Con for baseball. Time for UMKC to halfass a football team so they can make a run for the Big Eight 2
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UMKC is adding baseball?
Sweet! I hadn’t heard. May want to check them out. And its the Summit League dammit!
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UMKC
Are they scared of how much more they’d suck in the Missouri Valley?
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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jun 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't decide how I feel about Dave Cameron's
talk about abolishing the draft altogether. Obviously, changes need to be made to the draft. We all know that. However, I don’t know if not having a draft at all would really help. His system makes sense, but I can’t decide if that will really help the bad teams get more and better players. All I can think of is that it removes slotting from being a possibility, which is good, but there are still problems with developing the talent. I don’t know that it evens out the teams on the lower tier. You might move up to the middle of the pack, but moving to the top is a whole different game. It just doesn’t seem to completely answer every question, I guess.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 11, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
It'll never happen so what's the point to even talk about it. Baseball has followed the NFLs
lead and turned it into a moneymaker
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Well, yeah it won't happen
Just trying to evaluate a hypothetical idea.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 11, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Most of it could happen with a few minor tweaks
The same effects could basically happen if the draft went to a hard slotting system and the free agent system dropped the losing of draft picks as compensation. The first round and maybe the second would have descending slots, with the later rounds capped by a certain amount.
The union could agree to a slotting for draft picks like the other sports — there is enough of a gap between when most baseball draftees sign and when they are eligible for salary arbitration that there is little effect between signing bonuses and major league salaries. Even the top draftees still make closer to the league minimum in their prearbitration years than what veterans make in their arbitration and free agent years.
The owners could agree to drop the procedure where teams signing a free agent lose a draft pick (the supplemental picks after the first round could continue, as they do not deter free agent signings). The owners would probably need to make concessions in other areas too (or perhaps agree that all first round college draftees get major league contracts).
With the money capped for each draft pick, draftees would lose their leverage — if a player slides, he cannot get anymore money, and if he sits out a year, he cannot get more money if he would higher in the next draft (and probably only a little more). And teams like the Red Sox would no longer be able to take overslot guys every round.
by Gopherballs on Jun 11, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I fear change.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess its basically like things were in the 50s
When the Yanks pretty much netted every decent amateur player. Except that every team would have an equal amount of money. But you have to think the cream of the crop is still going to gravitate to the Yanks and Red Sox every year.
I guess I’d be for it if you still had some sort of system that helped bad teams – like maybe get rid of the rule that a Rule 5 pick has to spend all year on a MLB roster – just allow bad teams to select eligible minor leaguers to put in their organization.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I would instead have a normal draft with a silent auction after each pick
(as has been bandied about on the FanGraphs boards)
—cap the amount teams can spend on draftees
—potentially have a progressive scale where teams with worse records can spend more (but make it weighted on more than one season)
—in the silent auction, other teams have to beat the bid of the team that selected the player by 10% (5%?)
—if the player you pick gets auctioned away from you, you pick again
—players entering the draft are required to sign and if they don’t are somehow penalized (details, details) sort of how the NBA/NFL rules work
—the draft would take place over the course of a week (not so different from, say, the waiver wire process), with the first 10 or so rounds having the auction, and the remaining rounds proceeding as normal
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 11, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it working
If the Yankees are limited to 2 million in signing bonuses, they’ll offer MLB contracts. There’s no way the players union is going to allow MLB contracts to be limited.
some general questions because I'm too lazy to look this up
1) If teams say they are leaving the Big 12 to go to (choose a conference), when does that happen? I assume schedules and contracts are set for the upcoming academic year, so would it start in the Fall of 2011?
2) how many switch hitter could the Royals have in the line-up at once? 3? Betemit, Pena, and is Bert a switch hitter too? Would that be a good idea? (I think so).
3) who put the bop in the bob-she-bob-she-bob?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
2012 is the date mentioned with Colorado
and I think Nebraska too.
Has The Onion done a story yet on Iowa State inviting the Big Ten to join them?
by Gopherballs on Jun 11, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Should be a fun last year in the Big 12
Run up the score! Screw sportsmanship!
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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 11, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
being a KU grad
I hope KU beats the Nebraska and Colorado basketball teams by an average of, oh say 50 points? That would be good.
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I would imagine Self doesn't pull the starters late in the second half up by 25...
Something tells me KU makes a statement next year. Texas probably will too, they have all that talent coming back and they wanted it to work out so we’ll see how that goes down.
I just don’t get Nebraska’s thinking. Yes they will make more money in the short term, but if the Big 12 does get a network that would have leveled out, and now there is now way they are gonna recruit in Texas, and they aren’t gonna compete in the Big 10 any more than they did in the Big 12, with less recruits in the Big 10. Nebraska shot themselves in the foot if you ask me, and now one of the classic football rivalries now will never get a chance to make a comeback with Nebraska and OU.
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by averagegatsby on Jun 12, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
We're going to find out just how "national" Nebraska is...
I’ve got a feeling their football team will not enjoy the new competition.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I never liked Nebraska before
I do really REALLY like Bo Pelini, but outside of that its going to give me great pleasure watching Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa, and the rest of the Big 10 just kicking the shit out of those corn sucking douche bags. I can’t wait for 7 years down the line to hear the comments from Tom Osborne… “We messed up.” Of course Im probably wrong, but a boy can dream.
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by averagegatsby on Jun 12, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I read in the Omaha World Herald that NU says 2011 in the Big Ten!
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