...here's a craaaaaaaaazy idea: How about bringing Gordon up and playing him?
So far this season 12 different Royals hitters have logged at least 50 plate appearances and Billy Butler is the only one younger than the 26-year-old Gordon. Meanwhile, Gordon and fellow 26-year-old Kila Ka'aihue rank second and third in the PCL in OPS. Perhaps Moore has abandoned all hope of putting together a winner in Kansas City and is instead focusing on building the Triple-A squad into a PCL contender?
Aaron Gleeman. Maybe some of our Omaha-ians can get jobs as Parade Route Consultants?
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Seems foolish
I mean, they guy probably still smirks.
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I will give
dayton the “benefit of the doubt” that he is at least gaming service time so they will be around longer into “the window”.
However the fact that he brought AG back up last year after missing most of the season without even giving him “extended rehab” in Omaha says otherwise. I really was blown away by that move.
Anybody know how much of this season they can play without burnging a year of team control?
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
they can't game his service time anymore, this isn't doing anything
they already did that after last season
he’s a FA after 2013 no matter how long he’s in Omaha this year
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 14, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you figure?
My impression was FA status was determined by days on a MLB roster – Gordon isn’t on a MLB roster.
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I'm just going off what Gopherballs (I think) said in another thread
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 14, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
last year alex was one day under the requirement for having 3 years
after playing one game this season, he reached 3. therefore, we’d have to keep him out for the rest of this season and part of the next to game his service time more.
Gordon was only 10 days of service time short of having three full years of MLB service time
Gordon started this year with 2 years 162 days of MLB service time. 172 days equals 1 year of service time, and a player needs 6 full years to qualify for free agency. Time on the MLB DL counts, so Gordon already has something like 28 days of service time for this year, bumping his career service time over 3 years. Assuming he plays 2011, 2012, and 2013 in the majors, he is a free agent after 2013.
Gordon was already arbitration eligible this year as a Super 2, so he is arbitration eligible the rest of the way until he becomes a free agent.
soooooo
you are saying GMDM cant even screw somebody over right?
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
Ha!
Actually, gaming service time is one thing that Dayton is good at. As mentioned previously, with Gordon’s demotion last year, Moore guaranteed that Gordon would miss free agency after the 2012 season by at least 10 days. In addition, thanks to other timely demotions, Bannister will miss free agency after the 2011 season by at least 14 days, and Hochevar will miss free agency after 2013 by at least 21 days.
i think it the amount he missed it by was really only by one day
if i remember the reports from last year right, there’s some point at which they round the service time up to a full year.
According to the service time data from Cot's, Gordon missed it by 10 days
Cot’s lists his service time starting this year at 2 years 162 days.
Even though the major league season actually lasts 183 days or so, the CBA provides that a player with 172 days of service time gets credit for a full year of service time. Here is the quote from Cot’s glossary:
A player earns Major League service time for each day he spends on the active (25-man) roster or on the Major League 15-day or 60-day disabled lists. A player also continues to earn service time while serving any disciplinary suspension or serving in the military.
Under the CBA, 1 year of service is defined as 172 days. A player may earn up to 172 days of Major League service during a championship season (regular season), which generally lasts 183 calendar days. If a player is sent to the minor leagues on optional assignment for a total of less than 20 days during a season, he receives service time for the entire season.
If Gordon finished last season at 2 years 162 days and it takes 172 days to get credit for a full year of service time, Gordon missed receiving a full year of service time by 10 days.
Either way,
pretty sure we all agree that a) keeping Gordon down because of service time is far-fetched given what the Royals have said about him and b) it’s amazingly dumb to keep him there while the outfield is manned by Pods/Maier/eventually Ankiel.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Eventually Ankiel
When the story of the 2010 KC Royals is written – that should be the title.
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
by Royal Kingdom on Jun 14, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
A really bad movie where all the twists are telegraphed
you know what will happen, and you just don’t care about any of the main characters.
Doesn't that go out the door once the guy reaches arbitration?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I hadn't heard that
I really don’t know one way or the other.
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I will go to the Old Market and map out a route
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jun 14, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Minor league parade routes, now that is article to run with.
- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …
by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all we have
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
Do they even have parades for the PCL winner each year?
Or is it more like a cake and punch reception thing?
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that's better than some
orange slices and RC Colas.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 14, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's time for another NYR "Worst Possible Moves" post
The way I see it, there are 6 spots in the line-up that should be in question:
DH, 2B, SS, 3B, and 2 OF spots (I’m leaving out catcher, but you can throw it in there if you like).
and there are 10 players who have some sort of a claim to start regularly in those spots:
Guillen, Kila, Aviles, Getz, Yuni, Callaspo, Gordon, Mitch, Podsednik, and Ankiel.
I think we’d all agree that the worst possible scenario involves all of Guillen, Yuni, Podsednik and Ankiel starting most every day for at least a majority of the remainder of the season. What are the chances of that scenario playing out? 80%?
I think left to the team's own devices, yes...
on the other hand, it seems unlikely that Ankiel, Pods, and Guillen will all be healthy enough to play the rest of the season.
Hope?
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 14, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a part of me
That loves Guillen OF starts for just that reason; every time he’s out there you’d think he’s one game closer to the DL. Kendall and Betancourt are the real problems: the fact that the “best” thing about them is their durability is actually a curse, not a blessing.
It's all ball bearings these days!
by CentralChamps20?? on Jun 14, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't you just love
an OF of Pods, AnKiel and Guillen with drawings of the OF routs? That would be craziness.
routes don't matter
as long as
…
they get there…..
….
eventually
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
but if you could graph it
would it look more like a spirograph drawing or a rorschach test?
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
Kaegel nugget
•Royals manager Ned Yost tells MLB.com’s Dick Kaegel that in spite of Alex Gordon’s success at Triple-A, Gordon won’t be called back up to the majors until Kansas City can find an everyday space for him.
Your killin me smalls....
this team still has a 2.4% chance of a playoff spot
it just needs a little more time to gel.
were almost there.
Ned Yost is officially a joke
You find a space for the turdheap of Podsednik and AnKiel around Gordon and DDJ. Not the other way round.
not to defend Yost,
but that comment has to be coming at the direction of Moore, doesn’t it?
I refuse to believe that Yost would play Pods over Gordon in LF, if he were truly free to make the decision
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
The man seems to sincerely believe that hitting Kendall #2
not to mention leading Pods off is a good idea.
Let’s not put anything past him.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 15, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Touche!
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
This Whole Gordon
Thing just isn’t working out. Maybe we can get Taveras away from the Nats for him. They obviously don’t recognize Willie’s true talent.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 14, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
shhh! don't say things like that! someone might be reading this.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Gordon is the height of frustration
But I can’t decide if it’s Alex or the way he’s been handled. He’s like a plate of prime rib that was dropped on the floor on the way out of the kitchen.
Place witty signature here.
Or a plate of prime rib
that was spat upon by the semi-retarded dolt who got a job in the kitchen because he’s related to the manager.
Place witty signature here.
Or the plate of prime rib
that keeps being sent back to the kitchen because it isn’t “just right” and ends up being so screwed up it gets thrown out. But the customer remembers what it could have been like.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jun 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmmmm....Horseradish
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 16, 2010 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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