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Royals vs. Cardinals Series Preview

PHILADELPHIA - MAY 06:  Manager Tony LaRussa of the St. Louis Cardinals looks on as his team plays the Philadelphia Phillies at Citizens Bank Park on May 6, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Phillies defeated the Cardinals 7-2.  (Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)

There was some discussion on have a series preview in the Open Discussion Thread. I decided to give it a try for the Cardinal's series. Let me know what you like, what you don't like, what you want to see.

Note: I added some defensive stats and batter heat maps since the original article

General

40 - 31 in 1st Place in the NL Central with a 1 game lead in the Standing over the Reds

 

Pitching

Suspected starters for the series:

Day Time Royals Starter Cardinals Starter
Fri, Jun 25 08:10:00 PM Greinke (2-8) Suppan (0-2)
Sat, Jun 26 02:10:00 PM Davies (4-5) Unknown
Sun, Jun 27 02:10:00 PM Chen (3-2) Garcia (7-3)

I can't find a source for who is going to start for the Cardinals on Saturday, but I will add the data as I find out.

 

The Cardinal Starters Stats:

Name K/9 BB/9 BABIP ERA FIP xFIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Jeff Suppan 6.23 3.12 0.328 3.12 5.79 4.36 -1.49 -0.53   -0.71 -2.46
Jaime Garcia 7.38 3.69 0.279 1.79 3.25 3.72 1.01   1.86 0.62 0.98

I have included the wXX/C value from Fangraphs.com to show which pitches the starter throws and the productivity of those pitches. The prefix "w" in front of any of the pitch types denotes runs above average. When the pitch type trails with "/C" it denotes per 100 pitches. wFB/C would be fastball runs above average per 100 fastballs. A positive value is good, negative value is bad. A value of 3 means the pitch is getting great results.

Star-divide

Projected Cardinals Lineup

The Cardinals have only had one series on the the road vs an AL team (Blue Jays) and here are the 3 lineups they used.  Remember we are dealing with Tony LaRussa so it could be a new lineup every night.


06/22/10 06/23/10 06/24/10
1 Lopez-2B Lopez-2B Lopez-SS
2 Holliday-LF Holliday-LF Holliday-LF
3 Pujols-1B Pujols-1B Pujols-1B
4 Ludwick-RF Stavinoha-DH Rasmus-CF
5 Freese-3B Freese-3B Freese-3B
6 Stavinoha-DH Rasmus-CF Winn-RF
7 Molina-C Molina-C Molina-C
8 Winn-CF Winn-RF Schumaker-DH
9 Ryan-SS Ryan-SS Miles-2B

 

Hitter stats (I am not a great fan of this chart - let me know what you are looking to know from the batters):

Pos
G PA R H HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
C Yadier Molina 63 246 15 53 3 30 6 3 22 28 0.242 0.321 0.324 0.645 75
1B Albert Pujols 70 313 40 80 15 50 6 3 53 38 0.311 0.428 0.549 0.977 161
2B Skip Schumaker* 62 258 36 58 1 16 2 1 21 35 0.251 0.313 0.320 0.633 71
SS Brendan Ryan 60 206 18 38 2 15 4 1 18 34 0.208 0.279 0.317 0.596 60
3B David Freese 66 255 28 68 4 35 1 1 20 55 0.301 0.367 0.416 0.782 111
LF Matt Holliday 69 295 42 82 11 36 6 1 27 42 0.309 0.380 0.509 0.889 137
CF Colby Rasmus* 66 244 43 58 14 36 8 4 33 68 0.279 0.379 0.563 0.941 150
RF Ryan Ludwick 70 291 39 72 11 42 0 3 23 60 0.276 0.340 0.490 0.831 121
IF Felipe Lopez# 43 166 18 36 4 16 4 1 18 34 0.247 0.333 0.397 0.731 96
UT Nick Stavinoha 45 62 7 17 2 6 0 0 3 17 0.288 0.323 0.424 0.746 99
UT Joe Mather 27 50 4 9 0 2 1 0 1 10 0.191 0.208 0.277 0.485 29
OF Jon Jay* 26 45 7 13 1 4 0 0 0 9 0.302 0.302 0.442 0.744 98
C Jason LaRue 15 38 1 5 1 3 0 0 2 5 0.147 0.216 0.265 0.481 29
OF Randy Winn# 12 31 3 11 0 2 2 0 1 4 0.393 0.419 0.536 0.955 156
MI Tyler Greene 10 28 3 6 1 3 1 0 1 3 0.231 0.286 0.385 0.670 79
UT Allen Craig 8 21 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 5 0.053 0.143 0.053 0.195 -44
IF Aaron Miles# 9 14 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.214 0.214 0.214 0.429 16
C Bryan Anderson* 4 7 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.286 0.286 0.429 0.714 90

* = Left Handed

# = Switch Hitter

Batter Heat Maps

Again, another little experiment.  I am not wanting to do a complete breakdown by count, but are few heat maps.

Albert Pujols

Run Values (values from here) - Red is good, blue is bad

Pitchers should keep the ball low and away with Albert.  I looked at several other maps (less detailed, exact counts, etc) and they all show the same pattern, except he does better against LHP (C'om Chen).  He really like to swing at the high ball and usually does good against it.

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Swing Percentages (1.0 = swings at pitches there 100% of time, 0.0 is 0% of the time)

vs LHP

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vs RHP

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Matt Holliday - Matt is hacking at any ball near the strike zone, but only seems to have the best of luck with pitches in the center part of the plate.  Looks like it would nice to nibble the strike zone with him.

Run Values

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vs LHP

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vs RHP

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Defense Stats:

Name Pos Inn UZR UZR/150
Albert Pujols 1B 634 -1 -3
Matt Holliday LF 595 9 21
David Freese 3B 535 1 2
Ryan Ludwick RF 530 9 27
Colby Rasmus CF 525 -5 -13
Skip Schumaker 2B 523 -5 -12
Brendan Ryan SS 478 2 4
Felipe Lopez SS 134 -3 -30
Felipe Lopez 3B 98 1 13
Felipe Lopez 2B 92 1 8
Joe Mather CF 54 -2 -70
Tyler Greene SS 37 -1 -23
Randy Winn CF 35 -1 -35
Jonathan Jay RF 34 1 7
Nick Stavinoha RF 31 2 79

Note: A UZR of 20 is great for a season and about 5-6 player reach that level, so the UZR/150 of 70+ are based on small sample size.


Injury news:

Brad Penny is on the 15 day DL with a sore back

Ryan Ludwick is nursing a sore right calf. Did not play Wednesday or Thursday.

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Thanks Jeff. This is good stuff

But what any series preview really needs is a “Where will Kendall bat in the order?” feature.

by Black and Gold on Jun 25, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

And Don't Forget

“Are They Our Greatest Rival”.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 25, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Locally, the Royals have been running a radio ad

That starts with the un forgettable line “In 1985, the Kansas City Royals and St. Louis Cardinals played a series.”

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured the talking heads and the MSM would have it all covered

If you are looking to get drunk, just have a drink every time 1985 is mentioned.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Drunk?

How about “if you’re looking to kill yourself via alcohol poisoning”?

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 25, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interleague-wise, it's likely true

Even if it’s not a major rivalry like Yankees-Mets, who’s more of a rival to the Royals in the NL? The Pirates?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jun 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Nationals?

don’t you remember that gritty series?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jun 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd Black and Gold; thanks for giving this a try.

I’ve been curious about how Suppan would end up after the change of scenery. Obviously, his numbers in Milwaukee were awful, but St. Louis resigned him after privately working him out, so clearly they liked what they saw.

Suppan seems to have (understandably) been on a pitch count in his first two starts back with StL, going 73 and 78, respectively. I’m curious how La Russa will handle him in his third start back, but I’d be surprised if he went above 95.

The position player I’ve been most intrigued by is Colby Rasmus. His ceiling is quite high, and he possesses a nice balance of power, speed, and size.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

damn

we gotta call up Brian Anderson so he can pitch to Bryan Anderson, and destroy the existence of time. Has Baseball ever seen a pitcher and hitter with the same (or essentially the same) name match up?

since these games are under the rules of the Best League, LaRussa won’t do anything batshit crazy, like putting the pitcher’s spot after Pujols’ spot. But the Johnny Cash of Baseball will probably put his DH on the field when the score is 15-1 Cardinals.

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by BHWick on Jun 25, 2010 3:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Did Tony Pena and TPJ ever face each other?

I don’t remember if Pena was pitching with the White Sox while TPJ was around or not.

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Groundout to second

But he moved Callaspo to 3B, so Hillman was probably happy.

16th of June last year, Arizona.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 25, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but it usually never got past the pitcher

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you ready for your mind to be blown?

TPJ batting against Tony Pena, with Tony Pena, Sr. coming out of retirement to catch for Tony Pena. Boom. Mind blown.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello Cousins

I read where your team is in a little slump right now. I hope it will last for the next 3 games, but wish you well after that. Also, where Is Rick Ankiel ?

by Cardnal on Jun 25, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Who cares where Rick Ankiel is?

by NotAHippie on Jun 25, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am

so glad that the Royals fans have class

by Cardnal on Jun 25, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Cards fan

you should know that Ankiel spends most of his time hanging around the DL. So where do you think he is now, smart guy?

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully being fitted with some cement shoes

C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell

by averagegatsby on Jun 25, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has to wait till JoGui is done with them

~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh

nevermind

by who am i? on Jun 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Want To

See Hoagy gone as much as anyone, but he really hasn’t sucked that bad this year. His line doesn’t look like much for a DH, but on this team this .275 .340 .471 .811 looks pretty good. Throw out his terrible May stats .202 .311 .356 .667 and he’s been a decent DH. He’s even been walking at a reasonable rate for him. I don’t expect him to sustain his current level of production, but credit where it’s due. Ankiel, on the other hand, has been a horrible CF and his offensive production has been 2 HR’s in one game and virtually nothing else. He’s first in line for those shoes as far as I’m concerned.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jun 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I keep saying we could get a little something

for Guillén, and Matt keeps saying that we can’t. I figure you can fool some of the people some of the time, and as teams sliding out of contention get desperate for a rental of a hitter having a decent season, somebody’s gonna bite. Hosey is a high-risk, possibly high-return gamble. A desperate one, to be sure, but desperate teams sometimes make risky bets.

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's always a chance

but they couldn’t move him after a super-hot April, and they clearly wanted to.

IN any case, what the Royals can get back, if anything, is either a “live arm” or an organizational solder, and whatever it is, it isn’t worth playing Guillen every day while Kila rots in AAA

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 26, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree they're not going to get anything for Pods

and he should just be DFAed now. I’d dump Pods, bring up Alex, send Betemit down, and bring up Kila. Then hold your nose and have Hosey and Kila split playing time until some desperate damn fool comes knocking.

You and I perhaps have a slightly different perspective on economics. You subscribe to the Rational Actor theory, according to which people, companies, baseball teams, etc. do what would be most beneficial for them. I do, too, to a degree. I figure people generally do what they think would be most beneficial for them, which is sometimes not rational at all. That’s probably a variation of the Greater Fool theory.

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I go back and forth

my main thing with Guillen is that none of the contending teams (i.e., teams that guillen would make sense for) are the right combination of a) really needing a right-handed DH only and b) the stupidity to think Guillen makes sense for them.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 27, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can have him back for free

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

For free?

Hell, we’ll throw in Jose Guillen and Scott Podsednik! Just take him!

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome stuff Jeff!

Who the heck is Jaime Garcia? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him.

As for the batter chart, I think it suffers from TMI. Maybe instead of showing all the batters, just show the best and worst hitter, and the hottest and coldest hitter? And one other hitter of note.

by sfeldkamp on Jun 25, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

He's a rookie this year

If not for Jesus and the J-Hey Kid, he might be more widely known. He’s put on a great rookie campaign so far, though.

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not sure where to dig for for hot streaks

I am thinking of just keeping HR, BA/OBP/SLG and CS/SB and use get the top 9 players as B-Ref shows.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure

that red will do much better against Hiram Davies than blue will do against the great unknown

~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh

nevermind

by who am i? on Jun 25, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Last 7 days OBP

Scott Podsednik .360
Jason Kendall .143
David DeJesus .360
Billy Butler .200 (!!!)
Jose Guillen .400
Alberto Callaspo .360
Yuniesky Betancourt .200
Mike Aviles .417

by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Jun 25, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

The numbers don't lie.

Guillen is our star! Can anyone else see an extension coming?

That's what she said!

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jun 25, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

On the offensive stats chart

I’d want to see PA, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K (or a ratio of BB:K?), and the triple slash. I realize that doesn’t eliminate much from the chart, though, so if others have ideas they should drop a hint.

Overall, great work.

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the chart the way it is

Has most of the information you’d want and is easy on the eye. One thing you might do is eliminate hitters who are not currently on the roster.

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

And it would be nice if it was organized by the probable starting 8, in descending order of OPS+ or maybe by position. Then a bold line with the rest of the bench guys in descending order of OPS+ or position. That would be a good way to quickly reference how a team’s top players/starters are doing.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 25, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind, I missed that somehow

I guess I missed the cutoff from starters to the bench guys.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say

have OPS+ after the name and have in in descending order. That way you’ve got a good general sense and can work in from there. I like the chart.

by Salty on Jun 25, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing I'd add is a pitchers' chart including everyone on the roster

You’ve already got the starters up, but what about the bullpen?

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 26, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think

consecutive games started by an aging powerless catcher would be another one to throw in.

Can’t we trade for a Molina or something? There’s around 100 brothers with that name that play catcher.

That's what she said!

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jun 25, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Then instead of saying he "runs well for a catcher"

We can say “he runs well for a Molina.”

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another good one I have heard a few times:

Pitchers and Molinas report to camp in 2 months.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Camp is where Kendall is.

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a gritty camper

~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh

nevermind

by who am i? on Jun 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he bats he doesn't take his gear off

He just puts a bigger uniform on over it.

"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."

by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 25, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good work

The pitch linear weights are gold, and I am surprised more people (both the stat-inclined and scouting-inclined) do not cite them.

My minor suggestions:

1. Add GB% for pitchers, which would help fill in the gap for FIP, xFIP, and ERA.

2. For hitters, use K% and BB%. It provides the same information as the raw K or BB numbers but in a much more helpful manner. Current MLB average is 8.8% BB% and 18.2% K%.

3. For hitters, add wOBA (or replace OPS). (But I understand space constraints and accessibility issues.)

by Gopherballs on Jun 25, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

This is awesome

Wait!!! Jason LaRue is a Cardinal.

We are totally jobbed

Given enough velocity even a pig will fly

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's something fun

From a gambling site I use to check odds on the games, just for the heck of it:
Free Play from Doc’s Sports. Take Kansas City (-1.5 +140) vs. St. Louis (8 pm ET) Zack Greinke is heading to the mound again for the Royals. He’s not the pitcher he was last year – not even close – but he’s rounding into some kind of form and I can at least be comfortable that he’s not going to implode here. What makes this pick attractive, though, is St. Louis starter Jeff Suppan. The Royals are surprisingly good at getting their bats on the ball – as they showed against Stephen Strasburg this week – and Suppan has been giving up way too many hits recently. That’s not a good combination. Suppan has struggled on the road, and just hasn’t been strong overall. He’s a good one to bet against here – especially because his team is mired in a two-game slump on offense.

by Gus Zernial on Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Good piece

Someone suggested this when suggestions were requested, and this is excellent rapid response. I now know a lot more about the Cards than I did before.

There is a rivalry, but it’s mostly on the Royals’ side, and it’s related to the general Kansas City-St. Louis rivalry, also more strongly felt on the KC side.

They jack up the prices not to rip off Royals fans, but to rip off Cards fans driving cross-state. Quite a few of them show up.

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Will and I have limited time to put stuff out.

On the pre and post game threads we keep short to what really stood out. I figure we could put out a bunch of stuff like the general media (KC Star, ESPN, kcroyals.com). With the limited time, we might as well put out something people like and is a little unique.

I like the idea of an interview, but this series was too short in coming. I am looking at 5 questions to ask a person of the other team. Let me know if any you would like to see.

What is the current fan sentiment of the team?

Can you tell us a little about the starters in the series?

What would team’s greatest weakness/need?

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anyone your team is interested in trading,

or any Royals player your team is interested in acquiring?

Are there any young players in the pipeline we might see in the majors within a couple of years?

What makes you most optimistic about your team, and what makes you most pessimistic?

What do you think about the Royals? How do the Royals match up with your team?

What are some of your fansite’s inside jokes? Who do you laugh at? What do you make fun of?

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Jun 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do the same for Boston and NY games.

Probably more so with Boston because of how many Boston fans attend, and more with NY because they’re the Yankees.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man I've only missed like 6 or 7 games all year, and all but one of them have been Greinke Starts I think...

Oh well Im seeing Tool tonight, unlike the Royals they have never let me down.

C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell

by averagegatsby on Jun 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

lucky

you have missed most of the most frustrating losses then

~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh

nevermind

by who am i? on Jun 25, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

I think it’s a shame that Tool doesn’t perform aPC songs live.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

am i the only one

who is embarrased that the royals (and some fans) keep bringing up 1985…enough about it already, i’d rather talk about nothing then to keep bringing up ancient history, especially since they’ve won a WS since then.

still can’t stand the arrogant cards fans, but it’s easy to be a fan i guess if the team is constantly good, not to mention they had about a 60-year head start on us as far as having a team.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel the same way.

I’ve written about this several times both here and on Twitter, but it seems as if the Royals organization assume that fans are content to rest on the laurels of 1985, and allow it to compensate for the utter lack of anything since. It appears that, from a promotional point of view, this is at least somewhat effective, because they continue doing it.

I wouldn’t expect this to last forever. Eventually, the fan base will shift to the point where most fans were not around in 1985. You don’t see the Chiefs promoting their 1970 Super Bowl victory, after all.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another (very minor) touch that might be nice

Is linking to the opposition’s SBNation blog at the end of such previews.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Since Royal fans

have no class, when we beat your ace tonight, we will sweep you and you will get to enjoy looking at a real major league team, not a AAAA club.

by Cardnal on Jun 25, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't come here and say we have no class.

The fans here haven’t been happy with the Ankiel signing since it happened. We don’t mind fans of other teams coming over here for discussions (just had a nice one with some Nats fans last series).

Instead of saying we have no class, why not ask why there is so much hatred for Ankiel.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a shame.

I just got done defending Cardinals fans to some other Royals fans on Facebook who were claiming that St. Louis fans were nasty.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry you guys got jobbed last night

Zack really should pitch left-handed versus the NL

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES!!!

C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell

by averagegatsby on Jun 26, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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