Official Pre-Draft rumors/freak out thread
by nwroyal on Jun 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT
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I was going to put this up later but I think the madness has already started. Jim Callis has a new mock up with the Royals taking Chris Sale and that there was never an agreement with Grandal (or that the Grandal stuff was a negotiating tactic with Sale). Also says Michael Choice and Wojciechowski are still options if we want to save money. So we shall see...
Also here is a poll question to debate--who would you take if you could redo the 2007 draft? A few months ago, we all complained about how the Royals didn't take Wieters (at the time of the 2007 draft, I actually wanted Rick Porcello), and I"m curious if folks have changed their minds in light of Wieters' struggles and Moustakas' awesomeness. I didn't include Jason Heyward because I think that's who everyone would take in retrospect.
So debate that question or use this thread to vent your emotions as reports will come out throughout the day linking us to different players.
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Had to vote Wieters.
If he’s drafted, Kendall never gets signed. Yes, he’s been decent. Still can’t stand the guy.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I understand all of the numbers arguments against Kendall.
But the fan in my love’s watching him play. I like that he plays everyday. I like that he doesn’t wearing batting gloves. I like that he chokes up on the bat and tries to hit singles. I know none of those things help the Royals win baseball games, but the fan in me overrides my judgment with him.
he has been a decent to suprising this year
I did not think it would be possible for him to be hitting above .300 in June
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Jason Heyward!
I took him in the shadow draft that year (although mostly because I thought Wieters and Porcello would be out of the Royals price range). I think I actually liked Josh Vitters more than Moose. Moose was kind of a late riser that year.
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Moose was more of a total shock than a late riser
Knowing what we know now, I think I would still take Wieters, though.
batter nine you sucky
From the SI article a month or so ago
the Braves pulled all sorts of stuff to hide him from other teams — Didn’t update his bio/stats in whatever database the teams share, wouldn’t send any important scouts to go look at him, etc.
Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed
not updating the commonly shared database?
I assume that the ethical strength of that organization now resides on Royals Way.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a discussion of heyward on FG today
I think that SI story sorta overstates what happens, but will surely be part of future lore
combination of him being somewhat obscure and just luck…
If only the Royals had someone with access to that kind of info
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i remember him being linked to the r's a little bit early on
and i remember not liking it
batter nine you sucky
A lot of scouts thought
He was too passive at the plate, and the fact he was not getting challenged by pitchers much (cause he was so freaking awesome) made a lot of people wonder if he was any good at all since they never really got to see him hit.
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it's all a giant ploy to draft me in the 1st round
granted, I’m 24 and haven’t played organized ball in 15 years, but I will get a signing bonus
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Tell them you'll sign for below slot so they can save money and get some steals in the later rounds...
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by 306008 on Jun 7, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my signing bonus will include enough money to
finally obtain election result information for states like Kansas, Arkansas, Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana. The vitals, ya know.
For a BL/TL, it’s all they could do
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Your amazing number of posts
Suggest you have plus hands and plus hands, so I can see why they are interested in you.
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maybe Harper will fall to us
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Jun 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
anyone else buy Seiler's Draft Notebook?
It’s got a TON of information.
I picked Porcello in that redo up there… I was floored when we took Moose… in a bad way. That was really before I got into being a draft NERD but, I had only heard of Moose a few times and was sure we’d pass on him…
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I wonder if Porcello would have been better in our system given more time to develop
The kid is still young but it seems the Tigers are kind of ruining him right now.
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Then there is always the other side of that question....
…. would he have different issues? Walked away from the game? Arm? Or would he be better because we have better coaching in the minors? Who knows…
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I don't doubt that either
but in the long run the Tigers might have ruined their investment in him because they got impatient
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=1314
2 Royals Mike Moustakas SS Chatsworth HS Northridge, CA $4,000,000 8/15/2007
27 Tigers $ Rick Porcello RHP Seton Hall Prep Chester, NJ $3,580,000 8/15/2007
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I like Seiler's draft preview
Wish he’d point out a few more of the player flaws – he seems to be high on seemingly every player.
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So is it a conspiracy theory that we are going to draft Grandal?
I could see that being leaked to the media to put pressure on Pomeraz or Sale or Mystery Man to make them decide that we will go a different direction IF they do not agree to our offer….
But at the same time…. I’d be okay with Grandal. I do NOT want Choice. He seems like a classic overdraft with big K problems. If we aren’t sure, take Colon. He’ll stick at SS for the future and he’ll hit. Just not super speed…
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I've heard (from Jim Callis of BA, I think) that it could be to get to Sale
And try to get him signed for less and signed faster. I think that’s more of a conspiracy theory than drafting Grandal, though.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That's all we need
Drafting a LOOGY with the 4th pick.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Forgot my sarcfont.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith Law said...
on todays live chat that C. Sale is a bullpen arm…in his view
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jun 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
is he in the same bullpen as Lincecum?
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I'm still not sure I like Sale as a pick there... I think I'd rather have Pomeraz...
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So, the draft is only on MLB Network?
Or are they showing it online, too?
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I think it's online.. not positive.
Tomorrow and Wednesday are only online…
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Is anyone else as big of nerd as I am?
I’ve got Miami’s last 2 games from the regional DVR’d and tonights game set to record so I can immediately go back and critic Yasmani as soon as we draft him… lol
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Nerds unite!
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So if we had Drafted Porcello...
…our pitching prospects would be as follows….
Montgomery
Duffy
Arguellos
Crow
Hochevar (not really a prospect anymore)
Lamb
Melville
Dwyer
Sample….
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yes, but if you add Porcello...
Wow.
The rotation would look like this: Grienke, Hochevar, Porcello, and then two of Crow, Montgomery, Duffy, Lamb, Arguelloes, Mellville….
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I'm thinking more and more Porcello's like a glorified Colt Griffin
Not a great comparison, actually, as Porcello doesn’t strikes many batters but limits his walks, and Griffin had a pretty good k/9 but walked everybody. But from a pure hype perspective, the two aren’t too far off — high school pitchers who may never amount to anything.
Porcello was promoted to the major league after only season in the minors, and the fact was it wasn’t even really that great of a season in the minors. Unsurprisingly, he hasn’t pitched very well in the majors. In fact, his numbers suggest (and I made this comparison elsewhere) he’s Jimmy Gobble. Look at their age 19 year in A+ and their almost identical. (That’s not a good thing.)
batter nine you sucky
Wait...we're already calling Porcello a pitcher who may not amount to anything??
Oh come on…we’re smarter than that right? Comparisons to Colt Griffin?? Porcells is 21 years old, already with one decent year in the bigs. No, he may never be an ace..but there’s a HUGE chance that he is a decent starting pitcher for quite a few seasons. Come on…….
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I think upside is Jon Garland
Downside is Miguel Asencio. I know this sounds like hyperbole, but there’s a very, very short list of pitcher aged 21 and younger who have managed to parlay a sub 5.00 k/9 into any sort of meaningful career. I just finished looking at the list of pitchers who played in the ML from 1990 – 2010 as either a 20 or 21 year old, and Porcello’s strikeout rate was among the bottom 10% of those guys.
That’s not too surprising, considering he’s also been among the 10 worst in K/9 both in 2009 and 2010. He might turn into something decent, but I think it’s more likely he’ll be a mediocre pitcher. The comparison to Colt was mainly based on hype — he’s already a much better pitcher than Colt. I just don’t know that he’ll be much better than he is now.
batter nine you sucky
I agree that he may not live up the hype
I just think saying he may never amount to anything is going too far, because he already appears to be a back-end quality starting pitcher with some potential to improve, perhaps. Him being a back-end pitcher would definitely be disappointing, given the hype, but it still could’ve turned out a whole lot worse.
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He is basically Jon Garland already
I am not a Porcello guy by any means, but you are selling his upside a bit short. He is young enough to show some improvement in command or to sharpen his slider or curve into an effective pitch. With just minimal improvement, he could be pre-TJ Jake Westbrook. If he can add a strikeout per nine inning and maintain a 2.0 K rate and high groundball rate, he moves into the lower territory of the Lowe and Hudson type of pitchers — 5.5 to 6.0 K/9, 2.5 to 3.0 BB/9, 55% GB rate (in other words, not Lowe and Hudson in their peak or career years, but more toward their average years). Personally, I think Porcello falls short of that, largely due to how the Sox have handled him, but he still has a non-nominal chance of doing so.
whoops, it should be
“If he can add a strikeout per nine inning and maintain a 2.0 K/BB rate and high groundball rate . . . .”
but the part about him being on the "Sox" is just fine
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
whoops again, wrong bitter divisional rival
I did use to confuse Porcello with Poreda for some reason.
I'd move Lamb right behind Duffy...
Arguellos is really 37yrs old….
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jun 7, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn't... but you never know.
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well, the supplemental first round as well...
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So who do we want at #54 tomorrow then?
I hope Bryce Brentz slips that far but I doubt it.
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Well, if we take Grandal
Brentz would be great, but I think they take a pitcher. I don’t know the second round that well to know the specific pick. I still would like them to take Gibbs or the Minnesota catcher if they take Sale in the first round. That could be a solid start to the draft.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I want Colon in the first if we don't go with Grandal
Then in the second we go for the MN catcher. He has a cannon behind the plate. Then we go pitching the next 3….
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For our sanities, Im not sure having any player from Minnesota is a good thing...
Lefebvre is already unbearable with all the Minny love.
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by averagegatsby on Jun 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
if we are drafting to need, we should select
someone who can’t play in the field, can’t run, and is really, really streaky, with slider bat speed….
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Draft Rajon Rondo!
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
LeBron would make a great corner outfielder.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a team of the most ridiculous NBA athletes would compete against us quite well
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for that Jordon guy.
He sucked at baseball.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad he pulled that stunt
because had he not the Bulls probably would have won EIGHT titles in a row
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 7, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe more...
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If we don't take Grandal
and go cheap to sign more difficult picks later than I would be happy with Choice. Read a good article about him in BA. Lots of power, good batting eye. It’s not so much I really really like him its just that the other option aren’t better. Sale is said to have a ceiling as a closer. Pomeranz an upside of a 3rd starter. Also just read in KC Star they are taking this draft as a “need based draft.”
If we are going by need we'll be taking Colon or Yordy Cabrera...
Or another HS option.
Callis has Colon falling to STL at number 25… really? I read through his mock just now and think he is WAY off.
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Who is closer to competing the Royals or the Pirates?
I only ask because this article is on ESPN right now, and to mee it seems that their prospects are a lot more spread out than ours. (Insiders Only)
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=olney_buster&id=5259420
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
I posted this on Twitter
But as soon as I read “the Pirates are building an island of hope” I thought “Well, that means the Royals have built a lagoon of despair.” There’s some hope, but I see Pittsburgh as closer right now, but I could be very, very wrong. I just love watching McCutchen play more than anything.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
We don't have a dynamic play maker out there.
We need one of our guys to become that. A CFer who is fast, runs down everything, hits for power, average, and is freaking fast.
Derrick Robinson. Jarrod Dyson. David Lough… someone needs to get to that point. But we at least have athletes in the system who are working on it.
Our biggest playmaker right now is… ahem…. willie bloomquist… cough.
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Or we could get it from a different position.
2B, SS, and CF are usually those type of players though…
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2B?
Chase Utley and… um… I guess Pedroia and Kinsler, very good players (although neither can hold Utley’s jock)… Brian Roberts is overrated and Robinson Cano isn’t what I would call “dynamic.”
2Bs tend to be underrated, but I don’t’ think it’s a typically manned by “dynamic” players as often as SS and CF.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we're closer than Pittsburgh.
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Thats what I was thinking too
Their prospects are really kinda spread out and if they take a high schooler this year he won’t get there until McCutchen has been traded off in the next rebuild. Alvarez is NOT hitting well in AAA and is going to have to move to first.
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Keep in mind, though, that KC's "rebuilding" had a big head start on Pittsburgh
Moore was hired a month into the 2006 season, while Huntington was not hired until before the 2008 season, so Moore’s regime had a 1 1/2 head start. Huntington has had only two drafts and done well with Alvarez and Sanchez (a bit of a reach at no. 4 but the Pirates used the savings to go well over slot in later rounds to buy out college commitments). Huntington has done a good job of trading the veterans making too much money to restock the farm system quickly and given chances to young freely available talent. Almost all the players on their 40-man roster are under 30. The Pirates need to focus on adding young pitching talent, but have decent prospects or young players at most offensive positions.
The Pirates are not necessarily closer to competition than the Royals, but Huntington closed the gap rather quickly. At the same stage in Moore’s tenure, Moore was signing Jose Guillen to a 3-year deal and playing Ross Gload every day.
So you're saying Omar and Dayton didn't invite Neil to the Contest?
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Yeah, but I wouldn't give up that glorious 75-win season for anything
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see some similarities
huntington made all those trades last year, which was sorta like Dayton did… at the beginning
it’s easier to trade someone else’s guys… so we’ll have to see where the pirates go from here
I'll give you the Octavio Dotel signing
There are three stark differences. First, Huntington has traded starting players and even some star players such as Bay, McLouth, Nady, Bautista, LaRoche, Snell, Wilson, and Sanchez. Moore traded basically traded one rent-a-player in Dotel and a bunch of spare parts.
Second, virtually all of Huntington’s trades made the Pirates younger, by quite a bit. Many of Moore’s deals were prospects for prospects, or young players for young players, and many of the trades were for veterans such as Perez, Gload, Jacobs, and Crisp.
Third, Huntington has avoided signing veterans to big money multi-year deals — no Guillen, no Meche, no Farnsworth, no Kendall. He signed his own Willie Bloomquist in Ramon Vazquez, but then had the good sense to cut ties when it was not working out. As a result, the Pirates have only $13 million in guaranteed money for 2011, while the Royals have $41 million.
let's just trust the process
I think Dayton’s lost years of 2007-09 are going to end up hurting the royals for a long time
fanhouse Grandal update
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/05/draft-buzz-top-15-clearing-up/
UPDATE (6/7 – 11:48 AM) – We continue to get more information on the Yasmani Grandal situation. Word from industry sources is that while there was originally an agreement in place, the Grandal camp now believes they can get more money from another top 10 team. That team? The Cleveland Indians. Sources say that Kansas City offered $2.9 million and Cleveland has topped that offer. It’s still the belief, however, that Kansas City will take Grandal, but that original agreement seems to be on shaky ground now that a better offer has been made.
by swing and a miss on Jun 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Cleveland sabatoging our draft
There is NO WAY the Indians take Grandal. They are just trying to push up the price. Maybe the Commish needs to look into a little… you know… collusion…
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Those dirty Indians
Always trying to attack Kansas City and take everything from us.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure that collusion means that
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whatever the words are.
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yeah, "tampering" is better
that would be some piss-poor collusion: let’s secretly work together to force our employees to make more money!
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
if the Indians benefit from the Royals paying more, it'll be because
Selig puts a hold on the deal and hinders Grandal’s development
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I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
stop that right now!
I mean it !
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 7, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of surprised the Royals only offered $2.9
I thought it might be $4 or so.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
No, if we don't take Grandal he drops to number 15 or so...
Buster Posey money was a joke… that was to get other teams to stay away from him… it didn’t work on the Indians… lol
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I'm not very famililar with Cleveland's system, but...
…aren’t they kind of set at catcher for a while with Santana?
"This guy here is DEAD!"
"Cross him OFF then!"
Santana's glove is a question mark
In three years, he might be playing a different position, or Cleveland could take the Victor Martinez approach again and split his time between 1B and DH, or Cleveland can trade one of them for a position of need.
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On Grandal
Just saw this in today’s Royals Authority post: a video of a Grandal AB in a game against Guatemala that’s slowed a few times to show the whole swing. Thoughts?
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my thoughts are that i don't know anything about swings
if i see a guy ground out like he does in that video, i’m going to think “wow, if we take him at #4, we’ll be pissing money away.” but if i see him hit a home run, i’m going to think we’ve got a perennial all-star on our hands.
I like this video of him better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh3NZUlDAQQ&feature=related
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this guy?
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by averagegatsby on Jun 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He hit .182 for Team USA
so I assume he has changed things up since then. I also heard prior to the season he is weak from the right side of the plate.
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Yeah, I think KLaw said something about him being better as a righty
Still seems to be a pretty good hitter from both sides, though I don’t have the stats in front of me to say that for sure.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think he was worse as a lefty
I think of the left side as the righty side, though.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind
He is better as a lefty. I misremembered it.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's KLaw's writeup
“He’s nominally a switch-hitter, but his left-handed swing is superior to his right-handed swing, something that has shown up in his splits this year. From the left side, he doesn’t stride in BP and his front side is very rigid, but he did step forward in games and had a more consistent weight transfer. He has good hip rotation and excellent follow-through, with a swing path that should produce above-average power. From the right side, he lacks the same bat speed and his swing is more linear, with a weak finish where he turns his wrists over and flattens the swing out.” From his Insider report on Grandal.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The predraft show is on MLB.com right now!
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=6261176
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
only 7 hours left!
until the biggest conference call in baseball
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Some lady mistakenly joining the conference call expecting something else. I can’t imagine what she must have thought it was.
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from all the talk about bodies...
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how Wieters would be doing if he was in AA right now
of course is stats would in no way compare to Moose
I don't want any of Porcello at this point
but dismissing Wieters because he’s struggling a bit in the Majors, while Moose has had 2 good months in AA seems somewhat insane
I think that Moose might have a higher power upside than Wieters
and for this organization homegrown power is the only power we will ever be able to afford
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Whoever we take
I just hope we take a baseball player this year.
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remember last year when it seemed like every HSer in KS got drafted
one of the weirder draft day things I can recall
There are two KC area HS kids
That are supposed to go in the first three rounds – Ryan Stanek and Jason Adam
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isn't the 2011 group pretty talented as well?
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I really like that Betancourt kid who has hands++
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Having hands in baseball is usually a plus
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
screw that
this year
draft someone with UPWARD mobility
~~~if there is one thing i absolutely know for sure its... ummmm uhhh.... uhhh
nevermind
Randy Moss?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 7, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
how about
a hockey player?
Or one of those mixed MMA guys.
Now THAT would stir things up
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nevermind
MMA guy would be a great catcher
Or pitcher. See: Farnsworth, Kyle.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope we get someone who plays the game the right way
Not a guy that runs the bases clockwise, again
batter nine you sucky
I dont think that was the players idea
he was just following the windmills directions
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nevermind
Nothing was more embarrassing than the year we drafted
a Hydrangea in the first round.
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by averagegatsby on Jun 7, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted
Wieters. Getting offense at a premium defensive position is a huge competitive advantage (and if I was running the team I would be drafting on that philosophy). See Twins, Minnesota. I like Moustakos, but he is still in AA.
I don’t think Grandal is Joe Mauer, but I still think we should take him.
I voted Moose Tacos...
But I almost picked Wieters, because that guy is already a Stud defensively at Catcher.
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by averagegatsby on Jun 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like what Moose is doing
but I’d probably have to go Wieters for now. If Wieters continues to struggle and Moose continues to dominate, I’d have to change. Kinda surprised Moose is running so far ahead.
well, one month of awesomeness could be a fluke
two months = true talent fasho
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like Pittsburgh is going to take Taillon after all
And Baltimore will take Machado, of course. Still at a point where no one is sure what to think of the Royals.
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From Dutton
“Hearing #Royals want firmer commitment from C Yasmani Grandal’s reps on price or likely to take LHP Chris Sale with fourth pick in draft.”
on his Twitter
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
hope that is just negotiating tactic
I really want Grandal. Not a fan of Sale, I suspect he didn’t face very good competition this year. I don’t think Grandal would be any higher than #5 in our system, but I think he slots in nicely with the bubble of talent that is rising through the system. The royals could be fun to watch in a couple of years, even if they aren’t winning all that many games with the young’uns.
Sale was the #1 prospect in the Cape Cod Lg this summer
and also pitched well against
Wichita St 6 IP 11 K 5 H 2 ER 1 BB
Clemson 8 IP 4 H 2 ER 10 K 2 BB
the only well known names he faced. He dominated everyone he faced in his league that’s all he can do.
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I know it's not his fault
it’s just not enough for me to take him over Grandal at #4
Rany and Law (on Twitter) have the right idea
if they like Grandal (I don’t know, just assuming they think he’s the better player), draft him and offer him what you want. If he says “no,” good luck in 2011’s stack draft, kid! We’ll not only have a high draft pick from our crappy 2011 team, but we’ll also have the #5 pick as compensation.
I am concerned that Grandal will insist he be allowed to start in CF, though.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of who we pick, should the front office go ahead and schedule the lasik appointment now?
Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Jun 7, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
just make sure
Aviles is around to help him with the left eye.
either that or order the glasses now so they arrive in time
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
KLaw just said in his chat that the Royals will take Sale at #4
Chat is here.
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
Later on
Jason (Northfield)
Am I wrong or are the Royals prepping to take a bullpen guy at #4 overall?
Klaw
(3:07 PM)
That is my feeling, yes. I do know several teams that would not consider him in round one, and I know Oakland would strongly consider him at 10.
Hmmmm
I also wonder why you would use your first round pick for a LOOGY?
presuming we had a manager who knew how to use one?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
not too many LOOGYs have a solid change up and fastball
I guess Sale is nothing more than the next Jimmy Gobble, he’ll touch 95-97 out of the pen like Gobble did
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well, didn't the original write-up about him
describe him as a situational lefty?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Laws write up
there are plenty who think he is more than that. Relievers typically don’t have a solid change up.
I see a lefty with a + fastball + change up who could develop a off speed pitch. If anything the lack of use of an offspeed pitch during college lessens the wear on his arm and injury risk IMO.
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To be fair
This is what KLaw said about Lincecum in 2006: “Lincecum will almost certainly end up a reliever in the pros. And given the Giants’ motivation to win now, I expect Lincecum to go right to AA, work out of the pen and show up in the majors later this year.”
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
It’s the “several teams don’t consider him a first rounder” that raises my eyebrow a little more.
Yes, this is true.
All of the rankings of top talents except KLaw’s show Sale in the top ten or twenty, though, so the scouts must be seeing something that everyone else isn’t.
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point
I’m convinced that the main criterion for becoming a scout is eliminating your name. They all become letters like in Men in Black.
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess if I said some of the things I have read these "un-named scouts" said
I would want to be anonymous as well.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
We really
should trade up and try to get Ryan Leaf
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nevermind
Wouldn't it be cool if MLB teams weren't responsible for developing their own talent?
If they could be like the NFL and NBA and draft league ready talent, this would all be so much more interesting. I’d propose independent developmental leagues that they drafted from and each team only had a single AAA-level affiliate.
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
That could be the answer to the world draft...
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Just to check
We are going to have to listen to Harold Reynolds tonight right? Because every silver lining has a cloud and all that.
Probably a lot of Jonathon Mayo...
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Ugh, that sucks
I really just don’t like any of the commentators on MLB.com. Every time I hear them, I just want to turn it off and make the commentary myself.
"You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jun 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Please bring on Jim Callis
His TV demeanor is electrifying.
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OT: The Glazers are 1.6B in debt...
How do you get that far in debt when the Bucs are worth 1.1 Billion, and ManU is worth 1.875 Billion.
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piliere chat
5:09
Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: Grandal deal is in big trouble with KC. They thought they had a deal and KC doesn’t seem too happy about them looking for more now
by swing and a miss on Jun 7, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
more
5:13
Frankie Piliere:
It sounds crazy, but I’ve actually been told my breaking the news might be impacting the KC/Grandal situation. I find it hard to believe because I don’t think I am overly important in the scheme of things, but apparently going public might have given Grandal’s camp more leverage.
Monday June 7, 2010 5:13 Frankie Piliere
5:13
Frankie Piliere:
But uh sorry if Royals fans wanted him and that is indeed the reason, ha
by swing and a miss on Jun 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Porcello
The problem with Porcello, as was obvious at the time, is that he demanded a major league deal, thus starting his options immediately.
Jonathan Mayo twitter
Still #mlbdraft uncertainty at no. 4. Colud be christian colon, could be chris sale.
by swing and a miss on Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
Colon would be interesting
Don’t love it, don’t hate it. He’s just a guy. Nice safe pick, but will likely never be spectacular.
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Colon is like Jeter, leader intangibles..
we need winners and baseball players!!!! Also Colon is raking in the CWS!!
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jun 7, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions
Colon was captin of Team USA and played great!!
Grandal struggled for team USA…
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jun 7, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
Colon
Colon wouldn’t be a waste pick. Some were even talking about him at #2. And we’re not exactly flush with shortstop prospects. I just hope the Royals aren’t fingering Colon because of the price demands other players. And you have to wonder if Colon will break down, which would just cause a mess in our organization.
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He has no durability issues...
the broken leg was a freak incident at 2nd base when a runner came in hard. Colon stole 24 of 26 base stealling attempts that’s effiencent!! KLaw says will stick at SS. Colon is a top table-setter & SS this club needs!!!
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jun 7, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions
@@@We Can Poach@@@
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 8, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
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